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03-03-2018, 05:35 PM | #1 | ||
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https://www.motoring.com.au/february...slumps-111392/
February VFACTS: Honda booms as Holden slumps March 02, 2018 Big growth for Australian new-vehicle market last month, but Holden stumbled as a full-line importer Holden was the biggest loser but Honda was an even bigger winner when it came to new-vehicle registrations among the mainstream brands last month. According to unofficial sales figures obtained by motoring.com.au ahead of official VFACTS data to be released by the FCAI on Monday, the overall market boomed by more than eight per cent in February. Once again the biggest growth was in small and medium SUV as well as 4×4 pick-up, but this time also light and small cars. In contrast, mid-size, large, upper large and sports cars continued their decline in popularity. Of the top 10 mainstream brands every one of them sold more vehicles last month than in February 2017 except Mazda (down just 0.1 per cent) and Holden, which slumped by more than 18 per cent month on month. In its fourth month as a full-line importer following the closure of its factory last October, the once-dominant Australian car-maker sold less than 4700 vehicles last month, placing it eighth overall and giving it a market share of five per cent. In the same month it launched its first imported Commodore and with stocks of the homegrown model – as well as the Cruze and Malibu – all but depleted, the biggest losers were Caprice (94%), Ute (down 73%) and Commodore — down 53 per cent to less than 750 old and new Commodores. But also suffering serious sales drops were Holden’s Trax (down 42%), Colorado 4×4 (18%), Trailblazer (11.5%) and Captiva (down 40% to 840), which has been replaced by the Equinox, which found about 360 buyers in its second month on sale. The only Holden models to lift their sales in February were the Spark (up 115), Barina (up 35%) and Astra – up more than 150 per cent with more than 1000 sold, making it Holden’s top-seller in February followed by Colorado and Captiva. Meantime, Honda surged by almost 55 per cent on the back of strong sales of its volume-selling Civic (1400 – up 70%), CR-V (1375 – up 149%), HR-V (1050 – up 8.0%) and Jazz (840 – up 48%). Mitsubishi had the second biggest volume growth of the mainstream brands at more than 24 per cent, thanks to 1630-plus Triton 4×4 sales (up 6.5%), 1620-plus Outlander sales (up 103%), 940 Lancer sales (up 137%) and almost 650 sales of its new Eclipse Cross. The next biggest mover was Hyundai (up more than 14 per cent due to Accent and i30 sales upticks), but Toyota continued to lead the pack with a 12 per cent monthly sales increase. Behind it in terms of February growth was Kia (up 11.7%), Nissan (10%), Ford (6.9%), Subaru (4%) and Volkswagen (1.2%). Top 10 brands in February by sales: Toyota — 18,280 Mazda — 9910 Hyundai — 8000 Mitsubishi — 7160 Ford — 6060 Honda — 4940 Nissan — 4860 Holden — 4690 Volkswagen — 4670 Kia — 4660 |
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03-03-2018, 06:06 PM | #2 | ||
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Holden's numbers look pretty ordinary but I get the feeling that it may take a few more months before we get a true reading on how they fare after closing the local factory.
750 Commodores sounds about where they will be sitting at from now on. I know its still early days for the Equinox but the blanket TV advertising doesn't seem to be yielding much of a result. This would be worry for them considering that it is one of the hottest segments of the market.
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How many of the Commodores where dealer demo's?
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And press demo's?
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04-03-2018, 08:02 AM | #5 | ||
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how many were they VFII my17 ??
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04-03-2018, 08:52 AM | #6 | ||
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I think Holden had too much of a time gap between making the last VF in October and the first ZB,s arriving in late February. they probably ran out of VF,s before ZB arrived for sale.
They certainly left a gap for Kia Singer but that doesn't seem to be selling in big numbers, maybe supply issues. |
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Not dumping SV6's into rental fleets to soak up plant volume would have a big effect on the monthly totals though.
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04-03-2018, 06:57 PM | #8 | ||
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Our local dealer also has a heap of VF's out the front. Close to 5 months since they stopped production.
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Very depressing would be how I describe the colour palette. Wheels magazine mentioned that there is a much broader exterior colour range and interior colour schemes for the European market and yet Australia gets dungeon all black for the interior and the usual several shades of grey/black/silver/white for the exterior.
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06-03-2018, 07:07 PM | #12 | ||
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Its not good, its ****. They say the 4 wheel drive sports is made for the v8 buyer, what a load of ****. It is no faster than an AU falcon. It might have lots of tech, so fkn what.
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Hilarious. Even the four cylinder has got way more power than any AU six, including the VCT. The XR8 220 wasn't all that quick either, certainly not by today's standards.
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07-03-2018, 05:56 PM | #14 | ||
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94 EL XR6 0-100 7 seconds__99 AU XR6 0-100 7 seconds (non VCT's) I will eat my words and congratulate HOLDEN on the car there trumpeting as the SS replacement, the almighty ZB VXR is, .5 seconds faster than a 1993 FALCON XR6. Unbelievable improvement they have made in the last 25 years.
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Have a look at the cars dominating the sales and that will give you a clue as to how important 0-100 times are.
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Don't know where you get your figures from, but you need to add about half a second to both those times, and another half a second if it's an auto. The four speed auto isn't a great gearbox.
And incidentally, 1994 was the EF, not the EL.
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For example, there are 2 different whites - one solid and one pearl, but some models aren't available with the pearl. Aside from the whites, grey, silver, and black, there are 2 different shades of red, and a dark blue. That's really not bad at all. |
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04-03-2018, 03:26 PM | #18 | ||
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what's going on with Mazda's 9910 sales?
Commodore buyers are like blokes around the barbie, if the meat looks strange, they won't eat it. |
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..... Sharp as....eating razorblades for breaky?
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Both ZB and Mondeo may be great cars, but neither are what I look for in a car. |
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Theres no respect for previous owners. They should of found a way to cram a turbo into the ZB. But no, they give us a car slower than an au. Fkn ****ers.
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Dismal story
Go Toyota. Wow those figures. Not one mention to them in that article Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using Tapatalk
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Holden are not far from dropping out of top ten brands.
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04-03-2018, 08:38 PM | #29 | ||
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How the mighty have fallen..Holden was around 16000 per month with the HQ!
They will be out of the top 10 in 12 months and Holden will be gone in 5 years. |
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When was the last time Ford outsold Holden by such a margin?
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