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06-03-2024, 08:22 PM | #1 | ||
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The new Charger was unveiled today and represents an interesting play.............
https://www.autoblog.com/article/202...harger-review/ https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...inder-due-2025 The Charger now representing both coupe and sedan, the old coupe was named Challenger. The V8 and V6 engines are gone, replaced by the new Jeep inline 6 or an all-electric powertrain. It also seems that the ancient Mercedes platform has been retired for a new but bigger and heavier Stellantis platform. Personally, I'm not a fan of the sedan, it looks too big and slab sided. The chiseled lines and flat surfacing suits the coupe better. The above contrasts to Ford where they have kept an existing platform and engine lineup, giving the people what they want................a V8! And GM? Well, they threw in the towel. I doubt we will see these new Dodge models, but at least they have kept the nameplates alive. I think a Charger Coupe with the inline 6 would be a very nice piece of kit................it's been a while since an inline 6 Chrysler/Dodge has roamed the highways.
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06-03-2024, 08:40 PM | #2 | ||
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Looks like its the Dodge Charger from Wish.
Has an extremely weird profile/bulgey looking, also no V8 in this type of car? Why offer the I6 but no V8 option and instead an EV variation on an ICE platform? This is why Stellantis and the rest of its horrid brands all struggle, they always destroy their own brands long established names/platforms and waste money on stupid shit like completely misreading their customer base. |
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When GM and Ford still have V8 engines in their offerings, its a hard sell for the flogs over at Stellantis. I'm sure the inline 6 will be good, however its missing two cylinders. |
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07-03-2024, 01:11 PM | #8 | |||
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Besides, some of us prefer I6 to V8
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07-03-2024, 06:52 PM | #9 | ||
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My guess is they have looked at what Ford have done with EcoBoost V6's in the F-Series and are trying to emulate that. Yes, Ford offer the 5.0 Coyote in the F-150 as a token gesture, but no one but you and I would actually buy it.
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07-03-2024, 07:07 PM | #10 | ||
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A few sound clips of the Hurricane twin-turbo Inline 6 -
First, this is an overview of the engine itself - Engine torture test, sounds very harsh to me in this clip - Keep in mind, these are in Jeeps, I would assume they will open it up for the Charger. And a Hurrican vs the old nail - The funny thing is, if you told me a decade ago that manufacturers would be moving back to inline 6's, I would have laughed at you. But Mercedes, JLR, Mazda and Stellantis/FCA/Whatever-they-call-themselves-next-week have all gone back to this fantastic layout.
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06-03-2024, 10:40 PM | #12 | ||
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07-03-2024, 12:42 AM | #13 | ||
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07-03-2024, 07:35 AM | #15 | ||
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Regardless of where the TT6 comes from, looking at the numbers it'll go pretty well also i reckon.
Also prefer the 2 door aswell, not as nice as older models but still not bad.
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06-03-2024, 08:59 PM | #16 | ||
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It's so... generic
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06-03-2024, 09:27 PM | #17 | ||
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Their arrse?
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07-03-2024, 08:51 AM | #18 | ||
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I prefer the look of the previous Challenger as well as the V8.
The old 6.1L was 317 kW / 569 Nm. The 6.4L production engine used since 2011 was 350 kW / 637 Nm, later increased to 362 kW / 644 Nm in 2015. The more recent 6.2L supercharged Hellcat engine is 527 kW / 881 Nm. The higher of the two HO versions of the Stellantis I6 is 400 kW / 706 Nm so that's more power than the 6.4L it will replace in most and a lot more torque. No, it's not even close to as insane as the Hellcat engine and, somewhat surprisingly, they have sold a not insignificant 56,000+ Hellcat powered vesicles since 2015 - including nearly 1,700 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk for that quick trip to the Outback. They don't make up a large percentage of sales. For example, since 2015, 323,000 Challengers have been sold of which just 6,000 have been Hellcat powered, some of which (like the Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Redeye) are going to be rarer than genuine GTHO Falcons in the future.
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07-03-2024, 10:17 AM | #21 | ||
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It’s going to be an interesting effort to sell into a market (Australia) that’s quite emotionally invested in big V8s.
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07-03-2024, 11:00 AM | #22 | ||
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There won't be too many v8s to choose from by the end of the year unless you want a truck. I think the Mustang will be the only one.
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07-03-2024, 01:17 PM | #24 | ||
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based on the renderings shown, I much prefer the shape of the sedan.
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07-03-2024, 01:58 PM | #25 | ||
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I like it, sedan and coupe.
The sedan is as close as we'll see to a 2024 Falcon with inline 6. NSW Highway Patrol: there's your Falcon XR6 Turbo interceptor replacement...
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07-03-2024, 02:08 PM | #26 | ||
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a bit more on the Hurricane:
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a39525...ngine-details/ and in a Grand Wagoneer: https://motorweek.org/this_just_in/j...ricane-engine/ Hope it turns out to be a good donk. Should be available here eventually in the Grand Cherokee.
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07-03-2024, 02:44 PM | #27 | |||
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But really, it’s a 2024 Valiant. Time to embrace my Western Suburbs ethnic heritage and get one. Any word on whether Straya is getting it or not?
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This new one looks perfect for the type of driving I have seen NSW highway patrol doing on the Hume, had an interceptor appear 2 or 3 ks back when I was overtaking a van! It was in full flight and I only just got into the left lane before the XR6T was screaming past, must have been going somewhere up near 200.
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The charger coupe would make a great 3rd brand in supercars, with a 5.7 hemi create motor shoved into it nose.
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Is it PC to ask "where's Daisy"?
As to the car, to me it looks like the front nose has had surgery and we've caught it with the bandages off and it's still recovering from the swelling. Last edited by Dr Smith; 07-03-2024 at 05:02 PM. |
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