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Old 03-07-2024, 06:14 PM   #1
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TOP 10 CARS IN June 2024
Rank Model Volume June 2024 Change year-on-year
1 Ford Ranger 6289 up 28.5 per cent
2 Toyota HiLux 5630 up 16.9 per cent
3 Toyota RAV4 3907 up 36.7 per cent
4 Mitsubishi Outlander 3045 up 87.5 per cent
5 Tesla Model Y 2906 down 47.7 per cent
6 Isuzu D-Max 2881 up 45.7 per cent
7 Mazda CX-5 2687 up 48.3 per cent
8 Ford Everest 2267 up 96.6 per cent
9 Toyota Corolla 2232 up 31.1 per cent
10 Toyota Camry 2013 up 121.7 per cent


TOP 10 CAR BRANDS IN June 2024
Rank Brand Volume June 2024 Change year-on-year
1 Toyota 20,903 down 0.2 per cent
2 Ford 9493 up 22.4 per cent
3 Mazda 9483 down 2.3 per cent
4 Kia 8225 up 8.9 per cent
5 Mitsubishi 7723 up 48.9 per cent
6 Hyundai 6552 down 20.2 per cent
7 Tesla 4683 down 33.3 per cent
8 Subaru 4460 down 9.3 per cent
9 Isuzu Ute 4445 up 23.1 per cent
10 Nissan 4293 up 55.6 per cent

Australian new-car sales in June 2024: Market hits the brakes after 14 months of VFACTS growth

The longest streak in new-car sales growth in 20 years has come to an end, after the market recorded its first decline in 14 months.

A long-forecast slowdown in new motor vehicle sales in Australia appears to have finally arrived, after deliveries decline for the first time in June 2024 after 14 months of consecutive growth, the longest streak in 20 years.

June has historically been the biggest month of the year for new-car sales – ahead of the end of the financial year – and it was no different in 2024, recording 119,659 deliveries.

However, sales were down 4.2 per cent on the same month last year – and down 8.9 per cent on the all-time June record, set in 2017 with 134,171 deliveries – in a month that saw the Ford Ranger remain the top-selling new vehicle.

Since the start of this year, 632,412 new vehicles have been reported as sold – a new record – according to the data, which is collated by the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI).

While it is up 8.7 per cent on the first half of last year – and 4.4 per cent on the previous best set in 2018 – the year-to-date tally was up 12.2 per cent at the end of May.

The Ford Ranger remained the top-selling new vehicle last month, a title it has held for 12 of the past 18 months after claiming the Toyota HiLux's seven-year annual sales crown last year.

The HiLux ended June in second place, ahead of the Toyota RAV4 family SUV, which settled to its usual third-place spot on 3907 sales after topping the charts in April for the third time in its history.

The Tesla Model Y was the only electric vehicle to finish in the Top 10 last month – recording 2906 deliveries for a fifth-placed result – though it is down a significant 48 per cent on its June 2023 tally, when Tesla set a sales record.

Electric vehicles accounted for 8.0 per cent of new vehicles reported as sold last month, down from 8.8 per cent the same month last year, according to FCAI data – a decline of 13.2 per cent in sales volume, in a market down 4.2 per cent.

Toyota remained the most popular new-vehicle brand last month, with 20,903 vehicles – a dip of 0.2 per cent compared to the same month last year, although it is still up 31.5 per cent year-to-date.
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Ford Numbers -

Ford Escape - 29
Ford Everest - 2,267
Ford F150 - 112
Ford Fiesta - 0
Ford Focus - 0
Ford Mustang - 1
Ford Mustang Mach-E - 73
Ford Puma - 57
Ford Ranger 4X2 - 447
Ford Ranger 4X4 - 5,842
Ford Transit Bus - 20
Ford Transit Custom - 425
Ford Transit Heavy - 220
Ford Total - 9,493

Considering its been on stop sale more than being on sale, 112 F-150's is decent.
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Ford Escape - 29
Ford Everest - 2,267
Ford F150 - 112
Ford Fiesta - 0
Ford Focus - 0
Ford Mustang - 1
Ford Mustang Mach-E - 73
Ford Puma - 57

Ford Ranger 4X2 - 447
Ford Ranger 4X4 - 5,842
Ford Transit Bus - 20
Ford Transit Custom - 425
Ford Transit Heavy - 220
Ford Total - 9,493

Considering its been on stop sale more than being on sale, 112 F-150's is decent.
I find this hilarious, F150 gets introduced as some hack-job conversion by a third party and immediately starts moving more numbers than Escape, Mach E, Mustang, Transit Bus and Puma
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I find this hilarious, F150 gets introduced as some hack-job conversion by a third party and immediately starts moving more numbers than Escape, Mach E, Mustang, Transit Bus and Puma
Its not how you use it. It is the size that counts.
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Its not how you use it. It is the size that counts.
Mine fits in more places
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Puma finished import in May
There isn’t any more being imported
That’s why it sold so few there wasn’t many left!
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There isn’t any more being imported
That’s why it sold so few there wasn’t many left!
Pretty sure its always sold less than F150 since the F150's introduction though
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Ford at #2.
Image where they could be if they put as much enthusiasm and effort into developing some other models as they did to Ranger.
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Ford at #2.
Image where they could be if they put as much enthusiasm and effort into developing some other models as they did to Ranger.
Pretty sure they don't care about some silly ranking on this little island.

I don't reckon anyone analyses v facts data like ford forums...
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Pretty sure they don't care about some silly ranking on this little island.

I don't reckon anyone analyses v facts data like ford forums...
Then why did they put up such a fight over the government's new emissions scheme?

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It wants a seven-year glide path to full implementation of the scheme; incentives including the ’super credits’; vehicle segmentation to exclude vehicles with a gross vehicle mass over 3500 kilograms; and a delayed start to any CO2 penalties.

It’s also calling for changes to ‘break points’, which align CO2 targets to particular vehicle weight thresholds, to prevent users in trades, agriculture, infrastructure and forestry from being negatively impacted.

It’s asking for the Government to remove these, or set the upper break points for both passenger and commercial vehicles at 2500kg. These are set at 2000kg and 2200kg, respectively, in the Government’s preferred Option B.

“It is our recommendation that penalties be applied only from 2026 at the earliest. Further, penalties should commence at $50 per g/km and grow annually over the scheme to a maximum of $100 per g/km,” Ford said.
They know having a two model lineup is under threat, particularly when they'd have absolutely nothing to counter the NVES for Australia as they've sat on their hands for a long time in Australia and they dumped their entire range except for a diesel Ute and a SUV based on a diesel Ute.
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They know having a two model lineup is under threat, particularly when they'd have absolutely nothing to counter the NVES for Australia as they've sat on their hands for a long time in Australia.
They're probably still doing over $400,000,000 sales per month....not too shabby.
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They're probably still doing over $400,000,000 sales per month....not too shabby.
That's the problem, the government with a flick of a pen nearly took it away from them with the NVES, Ford US even recognises it as a problem.
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Image where they could be if they put as much enthusiasm and effort into developing some other models as they did to Ranger.
Those other models would probably be on the ranger platform. Cut the tray off and voila - hatchback!
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Those other models would probably be on the ranger platform. Cut the tray off and voila - hatchback!
Or set up a C2 production line in Thailand to make multiple vehicles down the same line,
Maybe Maverick pickup and a companion SUV. Job done.
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Wonder how many Amoraks are being sold also, seeing them everywhere.
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June 2024 - 1010
June 2023 - 747
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Volkswagen Amarok 4X4 1,010
Volkswagen Arteon 8
Volkswagen Caddy 12
Volkswagen Caddy Cargo Van 101
Volkswagen California 15
Volkswagen Caravelle 0
Volkswagen Crafter 75
Volkswagen Crafter Bus 0
Volkswagen Golf 215
Volkswagen Multivan 80
Volkswagen Passat 4
Volkswagen Passat Alltrack 6
Volkswagen Polo 154
Volkswagen T-Cross 8
Volkswagen Tiguan 662
Volkswagen Tiguan Allspace 374
Volkswagen Touareg 61
Volkswagen Transporter 90
Volkswagen T-Roc 883
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Mates looking at a new car at the moment but doesn't want diesel, I mentioned the VW Amarok but the Ecoboost version

Flat out refusing to even look at it because VAG, then laments no unleaded Ranger.

Even though they are the same vehicle, he refuses to buy anything VW.

What is there on the new car market that's turbo unleaded sub $80K in an SUV or ute?

Requirement is no hybrid as well they're ditching a hybrid Volvo because hybrid is WOFTAM for country driving and they don't want to risk another hybrid tax.
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Mates looking at a new car at the moment but doesn't want diesel, I mentioned the VW Amarok but the Ecoboost version

Flat out refusing to even look at it because VAG, then laments no unleaded Ranger.

Even though they are the same vehicle, he refuses to buy anything VW.

What is there on the new car market that's turbo unleaded sub $80K in an SUV or ute?

Requirement is no hybrid as well they're ditching a hybrid Volvo because hybrid is WOFTAM for country driving and they don't want to risk another hybrid tax.
Subaru Outback t
Suzuki S Cross-Vitara
Left out Vw and Skoda
Left out Renault
Left out Peugeot
Left out mitsi Eclipse Cross
Left out Chinese
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Hyundai Santa Fe (new)
Hyundai other
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Left out Renault
Left out Peugeot
Left out mitsi Eclipse Cross
Left out Chinese
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Hyundai Santa Fe (new)
Hyundai other
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Left out audi
left out alfa
You can get a turbo petrol Tuscon and Sportage.
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Left out Renault
Left out Peugeot
Left out mitsi Eclipse Cross
Left out Chinese
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Hyundai other
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good list there. Noted the Hyundais as well. Be still my beating heart. Was recently in a CX5 and not a patch on the Terry, even when it's brand new. The fwd feel was very quickly obvious.
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good list there. Noted the Hyundais as well. Be still my beating heart. Was recently in a CX5 and not a patch on the Terry, even when it's brand new. The fwd feel was very quickly obvious.
Its amazing how many CX3 and CX5 Mazda sell.
Everyone else one so I may well get one they must be ok seems to be the thought process.
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If I was in the market for a dc ute and had the $ for this price set...
I would go the 2.3 petrol simply because I dont want a diesel entering and exiting my garage enclosed and attached to my town house with diesel fumes hanging about entering the house. Also the cleaner fill at the pump no stinking diesel all over the hands ..unless you wear gloves.
Any experts here able to explain which is the least polluting ...3.0 d or 2.3 t?
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If I was in the market for a dc ute and had the $ for this price set...
I would go the 2.3 petrol simply because I dont want a diesel entering and exiting my garage enclosed and attached to my town house with diesel fumes hanging about entering the house. Also the cleaner fill at the pump no stinking diesel all over the hands ..unless you wear gloves.
Any experts here able to explain which is the least polluting ...3.0 d or 2.3 t?
All good points as to why you would choose a petrol but would you buy the 2.3 petrol over a 300kw V6 petrol Raptor for 5-10k more. Given they are based on the same platform and the raptor comes with not just the way better engine but suspension and looks as well, you’d be mad to pick the VW. Seems the people agree.
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The top of the line VW is equivalent to a Ranger Platinum though which is near $90k.
If anything it maybe more fancy with its 21" wheels which the Ford doesn't get.
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Are VW Amarok servicing costs similar to Rangers?

If I could build my own ute, it would be the Ranger Platinum spec with V6 EcoBoost and as a fall back the V6 diesel, but with rear coils from the Raptor at overall normal Ranger ride height.
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If I could build my own ute, it would be the Ranger Platinum spec with V6 EcoBoost and as a fall back the V6 diesel, but with rear coils from the Raptor at overall normal Ranger ride height.
At the moment they are throwing the first 5 services in for Free so right now, nothing but first 5 total about $1800
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