Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 20-07-2006, 10:22 AM   #1
Kommandant
ED4LYFE
 
Kommandant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: North Coast NSW
Posts: 301
Default Telsa Roadstar

This seems very promising for an electric car

Some of the more interesting parts of the article:

The trick? The Tesla Roadster is powered by 6,831 rechargeable lithium-ion batteries -- the same cells that run a laptop computer. Range: 250 miles. Fuel efficiency: 1 to 2 cents per mile. Top speed: more than 130 mph. The first cars will be built at a factory in England and are slated to hit the market next summer.

With its two-person capacity and aerodynamic contours, the lightweight machine can go 250 miles on a single charge. (When connected to a special 220-volt, 70-amp outlet, recharging takes about three and a half hours.)


http://www.wired.com/news/wiredmag/0...l?tw=rss.index [Full Article]

Attached Images
File Type: jpg exterior.jpg (11.9 KB, 93 views)
File Type: jpg interior.jpg (26.5 KB, 103 views)
File Type: jpg rear.jpg (27.3 KB, 118 views)
__________________
giggity
Kommandant is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-07-2006, 10:24 AM   #2
agony
BLOWN 383 CHEV OWNER
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SE Qld.
Posts: 4,398
Default

Very neat looking package, should be interesting to see how they perform and what sort of cost they are to buy.
agony is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-07-2006, 10:30 AM   #3
turboute
turboute
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Perth WA
Posts: 502
Default

Wonder how far they would get with a decent stereo attached? lol.

for the right price I would consider buying one (still need a petrol car for holidays etc...)
turboute is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-09-2006, 05:38 PM   #4
LUXO_8
windsor user
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Geelong
Posts: 13,123
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by turboute
(still need a petrol car for holidays etc...)
generator/battery charger attached to your camper trailer.....free touring
LUXO_8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-09-2006, 05:47 PM   #5
XzLr8
Banned
 
XzLr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: melbourne
Posts: 644
Default

LoL that is the toughest lookin lil battery powered car i think ive ever seen but as previouslly stated wouldnt touch a battery till they're being driven on the road by everyday people until then once again as previouslly stated COMBUSTION HERE WE COME!
XzLr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-09-2006, 06:06 PM   #6
XRQTR
TBA Customs
 
XRQTR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: giving you what you need
Posts: 3,275
Default

Do a search on electrtic cars, you will find plenty in daily use in the U.S. and europe, as for speed how does a 12 second quarter mile time sound, alot of them are very quick as they have torque from 0-?????rpm, some rev as high as 20,000rpm.

Although keep in mind that these examples are mostly owner built as no company actually mass produces a full electric sports car, yet.
XRQTR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-07-2006, 10:55 AM   #7
Kommandant
ED4LYFE
 
Kommandant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: North Coast NSW
Posts: 301
Default

the sports car class lets Eberhard price it on the high end -- in the range of a Porsche 911 Carrera S, roughly $80,00

he's already preparing a sedan, codenamed White Star, which could hit streets as early as 2008. Of course, the sedan won't be as lightweight or aerodynamic as the Roadster, so its range is likely to drop significantly. Eberhard's response: maybe with today's tech. But battery power is improving steadily, and several companies say they may soon double battery life. By the time the sedan comes out, he says, batteries will be ready to deliver: "We're going to ride that technology curve all the way home."
__________________
giggity
Kommandant is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-07-2006, 02:57 PM   #8
Mechan1k
Moderator
Donating Member1
 
Mechan1k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kenthurst
Posts: 40,403
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Brings a wealth of knowledge to the forums and is frequently giving helpful advice. Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Always willing to help out with technical information. 
Default

$80.00 ... I'll buy 10 thanks
Yes I know it's a typo
Mechan1k is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-07-2006, 03:45 PM   #9
Lightning Strike GT
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Lightning Strike GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: QLD
Posts: 1,255
Default

The Aust Govt will not bring these in as they will get NO TAXES from petrol sales..
__________________
Regards Alan
FG GT in Lightning Strike
5th anniversary edition in manual 1 of 25
And an 2019 MD Mondeo Trend Wagon in Platinum White
Lightning Strike GT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-09-2006, 05:26 PM   #10
BlueRaven
Dual O2 sensors
 
BlueRaven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brisneyworld
Posts: 1,437
Default

http://www.teslamotors.com/

This website explains a lot... they are making a bit of noise now.

The FAQ has some very interesting points and explains how the batteries will work..
__________________
Black 1990 300zx Twin Turbo 5 Speed Manual :
Blue 2004 Mini Cooper S 6 Speed Manual - Yes, thank you Amanda. I realise now that you updated my signature to include your car. :
BlueRaven is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-09-2006, 05:33 PM   #11
uranium_death
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
uranium_death's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Gren A Waverrey
Posts: 2,396
Default

I won't touch this one as electric and battery operated cars are still in nappies.

I will wait until they are more powerful and efficient before I look at them.

For now, it's combustion ahoy!
uranium_death is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-09-2006, 06:13 PM   #12
70caprigt3k
Nitrous Junkie
 
70caprigt3k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 859
Default

Ill stick with combustion, you can't quite get an electric engine to sound as good as a combustion engine.
__________________
'97 Toyota Supra - 6spd, Tilton Triple Plate, Built 2J, T88H-38GK, HKS 272 Cams, Haltech E11V2
70caprigt3k is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-09-2006, 07:33 PM   #13
uranium_death
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
uranium_death's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Gren A Waverrey
Posts: 2,396
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 70caprigt3k
Ill stick with combustion, you can't quite get an electric engine to sound as good as a combustion engine.
I'll drink to that!
uranium_death is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-09-2006, 10:09 PM   #14
XRQTR
TBA Customs
 
XRQTR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: giving you what you need
Posts: 3,275
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 70caprigt3k
Ill stick with combustion, you can't quite get an electric engine to sound as good as a combustion engine.
What????

Didn't you ever put playing cards in your bike spokes????
XRQTR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-09-2006, 10:18 PM   #15
Polyal
The 'Stihl' Man
Donating Member2
 
Polyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,584
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by XRQTR
What????

Didn't you ever put playing cards in your bike spokes????
LOL! Yes....

But seriously, I plan to have some kind of econobox for during the week, and then a toy for the weekend. Whether it be hybrid, diesel, gas, electric, I dont really care; as long as it looks half decent and does the job.

I seriously dont see the point in wasting cash on something that you use daily, how many people take passengers when they go to work?

Its just a sad fact that one day petrol will be too expensive to use everyday, dont know when that will be, but it will happen. And all of this technology is only going to get better.

My only worry is with accidents etc etc, could be an awkward situation.
__________________
  • 2017 Toyota Prado (work hack)
  • 2017 Mitsubishi Pajero Sport
  • 2003 CL7 Honda Accord Euro R (JDM) - K20A 6MT
  • 1999 Lexus IS200 - 1G-FE Turbo 6MT
  • 1973 ZF Ford Fairlane
Polyal is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 23-09-2006, 08:26 AM   #16
XRQTR
TBA Customs
 
XRQTR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: giving you what you need
Posts: 3,275
Default

Well thats pretty much what the manufacturers of the current run of ugly little slugs are pushing for, use it as your daily commuter to and from work, most of this time is spent sitting in traffic jams and you produce s#!tloads more CO and CO2 sitting their at idle.

But with more enviro concious companies getting behind it and investing into these companies, the more they can spend on designers and production materials. I remember many years ago on the old Beyond 2000, I think it was Lamborghini that made a concept electric, it went for 2-3 hours regular driving and about 45 minutes of real hard driving. It was quite an impressive looking little thing, and had plenty of go in it at full noise, the downfall o0f course was the battery life, but with someone like Lambo it was bound to look hot and get attention, if only they had decent reserves of power.

As for governments not making money being the reason for lack of interest and support your not too far from the truth. I think it was on Dateline on the ABC where they showed a story about a full electric car that GM had made for the local market in the US, people that had them instantly fell in love, they were quick enough to zip around town and held their own on the freeways, even the styling wasn't too bad. What killed it??? The US government. All those who leased one, yes lease as they were not for sale, were eligible for a government subsidy of US$4000 because they were mostly self employed and small business, HOWEVER, if you were also self employed or a small business and went out and bought a Hummer at the same time you were eligible for, wait for it, US$100,000 rebate/subsidy from the government. So the energy efficient car was fine I suppose because you didn't need to fill the huge a$$ed fuel tank, whereas on the other hand the Hummer needed a federal grant just to keep it fueled and running.
p.s. all but a handful of these electric cars have now been crushed.

I mean it's like the Victorian government and the wind farm issue, it's been stopped because some 'environmentalist', if you can believe that, claims that a small migratory bird flies directly through the proposed sight. Mind you none of the locals have ever seen this bird in the area, the claim is that it flies through but doesn't stop their, hmmmm :

So in effect, the government may talk the talk but they run the other way with a bag over their heads when it comes to walking the walk, like John Howard at the moment with the Kyoto treaty signing, his claim is that we can do it on our own, so why not sign it then if you're confident we can achieve the goal???? :

lol rant off
XRQTR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-09-2006, 10:13 PM   #17
Outbackjack
Central to all beach's
 
Outbackjack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Alice Springs
Posts: 1,653
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 70caprigt3k
Ill stick with combustion, you can't quite get an electric engine to sound as good as a combustion engine.
pipped at the playing card post!! :
__________________
Real Aussie muscle cars have a clutch!!
http://www.roadsense.com.au/about.html
Outbackjack is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 09:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL