Harley Builds 2000cc & 2500cc engines !!

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Is Harley about to join the displacement race? That topic has been buzzing around the internet with the discovery of Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) documents mentioning a 2450cc V-twin engine. With Harley now running at the bottom of the big-twin displacement class, it's only a matter of time before Harley, which was once distinguished by having the largest motorcycle engines on the road, produces a bigger V-twin.

The EPA emissions document in question (scroll down to the last three pages, 8 through 10, of this PDF) shows testing results for liquid-cooled 2450cc and 2000cc Harley-Davidson V-twin engines. Power for the 2450cc version is listed as 98 kilowatts (131 horsepower) at 5000 rpm with 133 newton-meters (98 foot-pounds) of torque at 3500 rpm. The weight (presumably the GVWR) is listed at 1260 pounds. Since the fuel-tank material is listed as nylon, it would presumably be an under-seat style. The fuel-injected engine uses air injection and catalyst to reduce exhaust emissions.

However, don't get too excited yet. The title page (page 7) for this section is labeled as a "Hypothetical Application." There are other hints that the bike is also hypothetical. On the last page, the "Test Date" is listed as July 2007. The names of the bikes — Heritage Ultra Tail and Heritage Ultra Tail Special — sound more like jokes than anything Harley would bring to market, and a bike with a big, modern engine is unlikely to be called a Heritage. The designations — FLHTRSHCE and FLHTR-SE-9 — are those of current models, but an engine that different would likely be part of a new family, with new designations. The projected sales figures — 34,000 units a year — also seems slightly high for a bike that would certainly top $20,000. Finally, we doubt that any major vehicle manufacturer would permit such sensitive info to be released on a public website.

We expect to see larger Harley V-twins (and possibly other configurations) in the not-too-distant future (maybe even by the end of this month), but we aren't counting on this being one of them.

Thats bigger than my FIESTA !!!

[sleekism]

Isn't their a Triumph with a 2.3L triple?

I think it's funny that in the motorcycle world the Japs believe there is "no replacement for displacement"

I think the big four in Japan are now building 1400cc fours for their sports bikes and I think Suzuki are developing a transversely mounted Inline six sports bike.

Sorry to say that harleys aren't very interesting, Buells are brilliant bikes but they could be even better with a different engine.

Triumph would be the best pick over Harley they are beutiful twins at a bargain price.

[Road_Warrior]

Kawasaki has the ZX14 but thats all. Oh and of course there is the Hayabusa at 1300cc.

LOL at the 98kw Harley engine. My 636cc Ninja puts out 95kw and its 1 quarter of the size :

[Mongoose]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Kawasaki has the ZX14 but thats all. Oh and of course there is the Hayabusa at 1300cc.

LOL at the 98kw Harley engine. My 636cc Ninja puts out 95kw and its 1 quarter of the size :

and about 1/10th of the amount of torque.

[schnoods]

And to think the Screamin Eagle gear was enough.

1/4 the cylinders of an V8. 2450 x 4 and You almost have 10 litres!! Then put a Sprintex charger on it !

Very tempting indeed. Just cant wait to Buell has some sort of take on this.

[nugget378]

Originally Posted by Mongoose10

and about 1/10th of the amount of torque.

And about twice as fast :
We wont mention handling shall we :

[woodsy109]

Originally Posted by nugget378

And about twice as fast :
We wont mention handling shall we :

Still torque on the road is a lot more useable than outright kw's.

I have a CBR 954 and recently test rode a new zx6r and there is no way it would be fun riding that thing on the road. Even though my cbr is still setup for outright power, it has a lot more torque than the 600 and you don't have to rev the tits off it just to get it going. I'm a sportsbike fan but I can understand how having an engine like that would be very addictive.

[GASWAGON]

Triumphs new 'Rocket III' which is a re incarnation of the 70's BSA model is an inline mounted 2.3 ltr 3 cyl 200Nm@2,500rpm.....Talk about Torque.....You could tow a loaded 6x4 trailer with it!!!

[TUF_302]

Now my gf needs a new car, i dont want people on bikes to have bigger motors than her car lol!

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Originally Posted by BlkEB2

Triumphs new 'Rocket III' which is a re incarnation of the 70's BSA model is an inline mounted 2.3 ltr 3 cyl 200Nm@2,500rpm.....Talk about Torque.....You could tow a loaded 6x4 trailer with it!!!

In America you can get a turbo kit for the ROCKET 3 and Triumph are testing a 3000cc Rocket !!!!!!!!!!!!!! go you mad poms !!! Scruby ah ah ah!!!

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or a VIPER Bike with NOS !!

[Charliewool]

How about 502 CUBIC INCHES? (and around 760Nm).. AND Australian street registrable!
http://www.bosshoss.com.au/home.htm

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by charliewool

How about 502 CUBIC INCHES? (and around 760Nm).. AND Australian street registrable!
http://www.bosshoss.com.au/home.htm

Oh dear! Just checked them.......And i thought the Rocket III had grunt.....Those yanks are craaaazzzeee! : Would be awesome to ride one tho :

[kyro_02]

yes please, buy me one of those v-twin bikes... sounds hot and beefy!

[TATT2]

I'll stick with my 1340cc harley....

[KBBossedXR]

If its a V-TWIN and it wasnt made in ITALY, it will never sound, handle and go as good.

[jmi8]

Harley's are nice if you got a good dip tray in the garage... :
There's a 1800cc twin made by suzuki called the M109R which gets my blood pumping but nothing comes close to the new Ducati 1098s with full Termi pipes :sm_drool:

[TATT2]

Originally Posted by jmi8

Harley's are nice if you got a good dip tray in the garage... :

triumphs drip oil, harleys just mark their spot,saying that, mines an 98 softail and never leaked one drop of oil in its life