Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

View Poll Results: Old School or New school?
Fuel Injected V8's and hi-tech turbos all the way! 65 35.71%
Give me a 351 and 4 on the floor! 112 61.54%
Hot Rodz the only ay! 5 2.75%
Voters: 182. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-08-2007, 05:47 PM   #1
sleekism
1999 Ford Fairmont Ghia
 
sleekism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NSW
Posts: 1,162
Thumbs up Old School or New School?

Simple question do you prefer the old school Fords or the new school Fords?

Hard to define old school or new school though. I'm not sure whether you would clasiify old school from the XK until the XD or would you classify it up to the introduction of unleaded fuel and the demise of the Cleveland V8.

I love my Fairmont but there is something about driving old muscle cars that new cars will never match. Newer cars seem more fragile and overly complex and will never match the raw feel of a big, solid and simple carby fed V8 plus all the computer technology and extra features simply means there is more to go wrong and you can do less work yourself so have to depend more on outside mechanics.
Newer cars are plasticky and stuff breaks and dents easy nothing like the old Valiant and XT which you could treat like a dog and they ould still ask for more.

Old cars had their problems though with rust being a constant battle and it was almost a ritualistic thing working on the car every weekend.

Hard choice myself I know I wont be happy until I have both a FPV Typhoon and a 1968 Fairmont 302W in my garage.

sleekism is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 05:50 PM   #2
Steffo
LPG > You
 
Steffo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 4,277
Default

Definitley prefer new cars. The better old cars are getting to be worth stupid amounts of money... so not only do they not accelerate, brake, corner... or run reliably like new cars but they're also worth 5x more now so you're too afraid to drive them lest they be damaged, written off or stolen.

FPV F6 Typhoon over GT-HO Phase III any day. The collectable is nice, but its best left to someone who wouldn't drive it into the ground... ie - not me!
__________________
LPG Lovers Association President & Member #1.

:
Steffo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:35 PM   #3
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steffo
Definitley prefer new cars. The better old cars are getting to be worth stupid amounts of money... so not only do they not accelerate, brake, corner... or run reliably like new cars but they're also worth 5x more now so you're too afraid to drive them lest they be damaged, written off or stolen.

FPV F6 Typhoon over GT-HO Phase III any day. The collectable is nice, but its best left to someone who wouldn't drive it into the ground... ie - not me!
Serious!! :

The first lot (in my sig) are driven by me ...... the last one is the Mrs's car. Nough said!



| [/url] |
__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:38 PM   #4
XR8-260
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,558
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by auslandau
Serious!! :

The first lot (in my sig) are driven by me ...... the last one is the Mrs's car. Nough said!
Your missus has good taste in cars :P.
XR8-260 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:39 PM   #5
schnoods
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
schnoods's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Rockingham WA
Posts: 1,234
Default

Im still trying to get my head around a bloke in a BF GT thinking he is on the same par with a GTHO at car shows. :togo:

Love the old stuff for sure. Not really into rods and customs as much though as they all just jumping on the bandwagon especially the VW's and old Morris's joining in too.
__________________
A philosopher is a person who finds a problem for every solution . :Reverend:

95 EF XR8, Advance headers, Vortech V2 t trim blower, Ported Cobra Manifold, Capa Switch Chip Eliminator. 307 rwhp 395 ft/lb 13.2 @ 105mph

Now NA- AFR 165 heads, 1.6RR, Ported Cobra 269rwhp 14.2 ... needs stall and 4.11's

1977 CL Chrysler Panel Van, 360, 727 torqueflite auto soon to be restored.
schnoods is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 08:37 PM   #6
TaraHymen
Regular Member
 
TaraHymen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Perth
Posts: 66
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by schnoods
Im still trying to get my head around a bloke in a BF GT thinking he is on the same par with a GTHO at car shows. :togo:
exactly!!!!

when they can make plastic look as good as chrome i'll be interested. at least with the old cars when u turn the key u know whats happening under the bonnet. and then there's the note, doesnt matter how much money u throw at it u cant make a new car sound good.

value is only what someone is prepared to pay which proves that old skool stuff is highly sort after. i wonder if in 20 years time the EBGT is gonna be worth more than a house?

give me a twin system and a set of straight cuts over 20 inch rims and neons anyday.
TaraHymen is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 09:08 PM   #7
Whitey-AMG
AWD Assassin
 
Whitey-AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,170
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TaraHymen
and then there's the note, doesnt matter how much money u throw at it u cant make a new car sound good.

WTF...........Have you heard a BOSS with a full DiFillipo exhaust........ITS MOTHERS MILK !!!!!!!
Whitey-AMG is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:41 PM   #8
Falcon Coupe
Clevo Mafia Inc.
 
Falcon Coupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 10,496
Chairman's Award: Chairman's Award - Issue reason: The exceptional contribution made to AFF over an extended period of time. Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Your tireless efforts behind the scenes in keeping AFF the place it is. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steffo
Definitley prefer new cars. The better old cars are getting to be worth stupid amounts of money... so not only do they not accelerate, brake, corner...
It depends, not many old school are stock in the Clevo section, ask those blokes about acceleration. :

Mine actually brakes very well, as for handling..... not with the current setup.

I prefer new cars for daily driving and the oldies for weekend cruising.
Falcon Coupe is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:50 PM   #9
Racecraft
they call me Tibbo
 
Racecraft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 6,163
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe
I prefer new cars for daily driving and the oldies for weekend cruising.
Took the words out of my mouth
__________________

Racecraft is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:50 PM   #10
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe
Mine actually brakes very well, as for handling..... not with the current setup.
Thats why the good roads have 3 lanes ....... purpose built for real cars!



| [/url] |
__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:43 PM   #11
tankclare
BURN RUBBER NOT OIL
 
tankclare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Rylstone, NSW
Posts: 2,461
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steffo
FPV F6 Typhoon over GT-HO Phase III any day.
: :togo: :
__________________
[TUFF4L] EF Fairmont Ghia build thread - http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11381891&highlight=tuff4l

[SMOKES] FG XR6 build thread - http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?p=4795218#post4795218

tankclare is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 07:29 PM   #12
nugget378
Weezland
 
nugget378's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sydney,workshop mod
Posts: 7,216
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Always willing to impart knowledge in the technical areas. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steffo
Definitley prefer new cars. The better old cars are getting to be worth stupid amounts of money... so not only do they not accelerate, brake, corner... or run reliably like new cars but they're also worth 5x more now so you're too afraid to drive them lest they be damaged, written off or stolen.
Thats what shannons is for.
I would rather a car that actually appreciates,when its time to sell I get what I spent in time and money back,stuff losing 50% in depreciation in a few years.

I dont care what I drive as a daily,a hilux will do as well as anything,its not like you can appreciate a high performance car on your daily commute now is it..
nugget378 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 05:51 PM   #13
DOC
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
DOC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,409
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sleekism
Hard to define old school or new school though. I'm not sure whether you would clasiify old school from the XK until the XD or would you classify it up to the introduction of unleaded fuel and the demise of the Cleveland V8.
.
That is a question i asked long ago and was answered by Falcon Coupe ( from Memory ) the answer =

Metal Bumpers = old school
Plastic Bumpers = New school

worked for me
DOC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 05:54 PM   #14
Nostalgia
LOW AND SLOW
 
Nostalgia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Geelong.
Posts: 2,644
Default

+1 for ol skool. "Classic NOT Plastic". :
Nostalgia is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:46 PM   #15
agony
BLOWN 383 CHEV OWNER
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SE Qld.
Posts: 4,398
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EAadam
+1 for ol skool. "Classic NOT Plastic". :
Totally agreed!
agony is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:00 PM   #16
FPV8U
BOSS 5.4L Enthusiast
 
FPV8U's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 21,940
Default

Personally im into the newer cars, would rather do up my XR8 than build an older car at the moment.
FPV8U is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:03 PM   #17
Nostalgia
LOW AND SLOW
 
Nostalgia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Geelong.
Posts: 2,644
Default

I have a EA so my toolbox is full of cable ties. I really want a 60s Falcon so i can use my real tools.
Nostalgia is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:01 PM   #18
4Vman
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
4Vman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 14,654
Default

Both.



__________________
335 S/C GT: The new KING of Australian made performance cars..
4Vman is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:02 PM   #19
Barry_v
rocknrolla
 
Barry_v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Adelaide, SA
Posts: 1,589
Default

last thursday I was rear ended by a mercedes C180 kompressor. the 1979 P6 chrome bumper bar destroyed the mercedes good. I drove away, he didnt.

I would encourage people to buy new cars, they make good crumple zones for my cars.
__________________
1979 P6 LTD 383c
1970 ZC Fairlane 500 351w
1964 XM Falcon Deluxe 200ci
Barry_v is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:04 PM   #20
XR8-260
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,558
Default

Definitely new school for me...
XR8-260 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:04 PM   #21
Nostalgia
LOW AND SLOW
 
Nostalgia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Geelong.
Posts: 2,644
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry_v
last thursday I was rear ended by a mercedes C180 kompressor. the 1979 P6 chrome bumper bar destroyed the mercedes good. I drove away, he didnt.

I would encourage people to buy new cars, they make good crumple zones for my cars.
Bwahahahah. Hope the P6 is ok.
Nostalgia is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:10 PM   #22
Barry_v
rocknrolla
 
Barry_v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Adelaide, SA
Posts: 1,589
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EAadam
Bwahahahah. Hope the P6 is ok.
yeah its not bad, as teh mercedes crumpled around the bumper bar it did a little bit of panel damage. bumper bar has basically no damage (scuffed a bit).
__________________
1979 P6 LTD 383c
1970 ZC Fairlane 500 351w
1964 XM Falcon Deluxe 200ci
Barry_v is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:07 PM   #23
Mongoose
Can't go around corners
 
Mongoose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Radelaide
Posts: 639
Default

Cant beat the pinnacle of Australian automotive engineering, the 1975 XB GT coupe
__________________
Quote from Jeremy Clarkson in the Top Gear Vietnam special:
Quote:
You know when we got to the 16th century, I think we turned left when we should have gone right, now were in the 13th century!
Mongoose is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:11 PM   #24
MITCHAY
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra
Posts: 13,455
Default

New most definitely. I don't really care about old cars that much. It's not very often I would say "Oh look at that" about an older car.
MITCHAY is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:15 PM   #25
XR8 Uterous
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Donating Member1
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,146
Default

I dont think i'd be able to live with a Old school car as a daily. For a daily driver it'd definitly have to be new school but would love an Old school ford for weekends and just to cruise in.
XR8 Uterous is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:21 PM   #26
Silver Ghia
Moderator
Donating Member3
 
Silver Ghia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Foothills of the Macedon Ranges
Posts: 18,583
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: As Silver Ghia his contributions to the AU and BA technical areas have been of high quality and valuable to the member base. 
Default

Should have had another category - 'Both'

Its good to have the modern technology for the daily runners or weekenders that dont want to or know how to tinker, but its also good to have the older technology for nostalgic reasons - a pure enthusiast car.
Silver Ghia is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:34 PM   #27
burnz
VFII SS UTE
 
burnz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Central Coast
Posts: 6,353
Default

old school is good until winter arrives (auto)
__________________
I don't often hear the sound of a screaming LSX.
But when I do, So do the neighbours..
GO SOUTHS
burnz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 06:39 PM   #28
tankclare
BURN RUBBER NOT OIL
 
tankclare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Rylstone, NSW
Posts: 2,461
Default

++++++++1 for old school!!

Nothing beats cruising around in a nice old car with the rumble of a v8..Sure they might not be as reliable and you may need to work on them alot more but that is the fun of having an older car.

I believe it makes you appreciate the car more knowing that you have poured the money in and done the work yourself.

An old school car will turn alot more heads then a modern car and that feeling is just awesome
__________________
[TUFF4L] EF Fairmont Ghia build thread - http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11381891&highlight=tuff4l

[SMOKES] FG XR6 build thread - http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?p=4795218#post4795218

tankclare is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 08:40 PM   #29
ST
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
ST's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Melbourne - Eastern Suburbs
Posts: 956
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tankclare
An old school car will turn alot more heads then a modern car and that feeling is just awesome
That's not really true. You'll only really turn car enthusiasts heads, even more likely to be older which makes it an even smaller crowd to admire your car.

New cars for me. More reliable, more comfortable, no problems with obtaining parts, decent air conditioning, CD players standard, more convenience (power windows, cruise control etc), less maintenance...

Old school cars are awesome, but their day has been and gone.
__________________
2007 BF MKII XR6 CONQUER
ST is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 08:46 PM   #30
Falcon Coupe
Clevo Mafia Inc.
 
Falcon Coupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 10,496
Chairman's Award: Chairman's Award - Issue reason: The exceptional contribution made to AFF over an extended period of time. Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Your tireless efforts behind the scenes in keeping AFF the place it is. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSW
That's not really true. You'll only really turn car enthusiasts heads, even more likely to be older which makes it an even smaller crowd to admire your car..
It is true actually, i was parked next to beautiful modded BAXR8 at my local milk bar, the owner was a member here and we were having a chat when surrounded by the local BMX gang, to my surprise all questions were about the XA !
They barley noticed the Blood orange XR next to it.
Falcon Coupe is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 10:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL