Speed limiters on high performance cars?

Falcon_Phill · 18-04-2006, 03:39 PM

I just seen an ad on tv about this. This is so ИИИИing stupid, why punish everyone for idiots who have accidents. What they should do is, send everyone whop has a high performance car to do a course, then if they have an accident they get in ИИИИ for driving like an idiot. Why should everyone be punished for this, its ridiculous. You can still smash in a 76 mini doing 100 into another car, whats the bloody difference.

BJ · 18-04-2006, 03:41 PM

It is simple. It is always the many that suffer because of the few.

Keepleft · 18-04-2006, 03:49 PM

See the crash thread about NSW's response to this.

NSW is not Victoria, we will *not* allow it.

WILDTRAKPX2 · 18-04-2006, 03:53 PM

And what speed will they limit these cars to exactly, did they say?

Paxton · 18-04-2006, 03:58 PM

My first XR6 was limited to 180 Km/h. I only discovered that on a Track day, when I was a member of a now defunct Tickford Club.

I wouldn't stand to have my car modified by a government that only want revenue. If it came out of the factory with no limiter, then that is how it stays.

WILDTRAKPX2 · 18-04-2006, 04:04 PM

How will speed limiting performance cars to say 180km/h prevent some moron from doing 120km/h in a 60 zone?

FRDGAL · 18-04-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shockwave XR8

How will speed limiting performance cars to say 180km/h prevent some moron from doing 120km/h in a 60 zone?

Exactly!

Redrum · 18-04-2006, 05:11 PM

And just like current limiters, how easy to remove!!!!!!!!!

Casper · 18-04-2006, 05:14 PM

Limiter? Whats a limiter? Mwahahahahahaha

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I love my edit

Paxton · 18-04-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

Limiter? Whats a limiter? Mwahahahahahaha

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I love my edit

And Casper, have you ever had the chance to go over the limit with the 2-Over Speed Cameras in Victoria? I was threatened with Divorce if I spent any more money than maintenance on any of my cars, especially the XR6. "its fun enough" I was told.

Casper · 18-04-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxton

And Casper, have you ever had the chance to go over the limit with the 2-Over Speed Cameras in Victoria? I was threatened with Divorce if I spent any more money than maintenance on any of my cars, especially the XR6. "its fun enough" I was told.

only at the race track.. I'm a law abiding citizen who travels at 10kph under the limit at all times and would never dream of exceeding the posted limit for fear of spontaniuosly combusting. While I'm 10kph under the limit I am untouchable. I can pull out infront of Prime movers, drive through 4 ft of water, use the median strip as an extra lane, its all good, I'm perfectly safe, I'm under the speed limit, just ask the Bracks government.

Oh look, a pig just flew by..............

Paxton · 18-04-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

only at the race track.. I'm a law abiding citizen who travels at 10kph under the limit at all times and would never dream of exceeding the posted limit for fear of spontaniuosly combusting. While I'm 10kph under the limit I am untouchable. I can pull out infront of Prime movers, drive through 4 ft of water, use the median strip as an extra lane, its all good, I'm perfectly safe, I'm under the speed limit, just ask the Bracks government.

Oh look, a pig just flew by..............

Oh good, Dinner!

So you are the person off the AAMI add, where I wasn't laughing because I was paying for Your Insurance then?

The Problem with the Territory is that you can't overtake the said Prime Movers before you run out of Road. Especially with the 4 Speed.

Casper · 18-04-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxton

Oh good, Dinner!

So you are the person off the AAMI add, where I wasn't laughing because I was paying for Your Insurance then?

The Problem with the Territory is that you can't overtake the said Prime Movers before you run out of Road. Especially with the 4 Speed.

but I'm under the speed limit, I'm untouchable. Unlike you, your a baby killing hoon who is state enemy number 1 because you dare to go 5kph over the limit. :hihi:

NXT51 · 19-04-2006, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by casper

I'm a law abiding citizen who travels at 10kph under the limit at all times and would never dream of exceeding the posted limit for fear of spontaniuosly combusting. While I'm 10kph under the limit I am untouchable. I can pull out infront of Prime movers, drive through 4 ft of water, use the median strip as an extra lane, its all good, I'm perfectly safe, I'm under the speed limit, just ask the Bracks government.

Oh look, a pig just flew by..............

Amen to that!!
Some examples of the most dangerous people in my opinion, that I come near, are: a) those that change lanes without checking who's there; b) those drive around 30-40 in a 60 zone, constantly tapping their brakes at illogical times; c) those breaking basic road rules like giving way or idiots reversing across both directional lanes because they changed their minds about turning down a particular road.

Travelling under the speed limit does not protect anyone - it should be a guide only. I'd rather drive on a road where people are driving to the conditions and are alert than a road where people are not concentrating on the road because they're checking their speedo every 2 seconds.

my 2c

TheSneakiness · 19-04-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NXT51

Some examples of the most dangerous people in my opinion, that I come near, are: a) those that change lanes without checking who's there; b) those drive around 30-40 in a 60 zone, constantly tapping their brakes at illogical times; c) those breaking basic road rules like giving way or idiots reversing across both directional lanes because they changed their minds about turning down a particular road.

Travelling under the speed limit does not protect anyone - it should be a guide only. I'd rather drive on a road where people are driving to the conditions and are alert than a road where people are not concentrating on the road because they're checking their speedo every 2 seconds.

my 2c

Couldn't have said it better.

ClevlndStemer · 18-04-2006, 05:35 PM

won't be long before they introduce this. It won't stop the problems but with knob heads out there doing stupid speeds of course knee jerk reactions will happen.

rag top · 18-04-2006, 05:42 PM

120kph limits on all cars??

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...4-1242,00.html

How can "120kph" limits on all cars be considered reasonable???

Paxton · 18-04-2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by '67

120kph limits on all cars??

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...4-1242,00.html

How can "120kph" limits on all cars be considered reasonable???

You are as dead if you are hit at 120 Km/h, as if you are at 180 Km/h, so, no that doesn't help. I witnessed a head-on on the Captain Cook Bridge last year, where an Ex-Cop and his wife were killed when a Commodore ventured into their path. At 90 Km/h. Maybe we all should be limited to 40 and be done with it.

ltd · 18-04-2006, 06:27 PM

Funny how they want to penalise the masses by sticking something under the bonnet, when the people who are causing the problem spend most of their time under there. Knee jerk reaction at its best. I also loved hearing the NSW police say today "We don't know what to do".

BTW, who pays for these new limiters?
What happens when you try to overtake someone?
As mentioned above, if I do 120 in a 60 zone am I safe?
That accident on Sunday morning they estimate the WRX was doing 100kph, would the limiter have stopped the accident happening?

Good god, they ИИИИИ the public transport now they wanna control private vehicles too?
Our number plates will need to be changed to "NSW - Knee Jerkin' Nanny State"

merlin · 18-04-2006, 06:30 PM

Just saw this on the news...A policeman was on there saying that if it was up to him limiters would be installed on all vehicles from tomorrow....glad its not up to him!

Magical_ED · 18-04-2006, 06:47 PM

That gps thing is another ИИИИty idea, to put in the "ИИИИ ideas" section, along with the new 120KM/H speed limit thing. Its all about experince, and awarness. If people were actually aware/knew how to control cars correctly (ie perfromance/defencsive driver ed) then maybe they would learn that if a car slides like this, you do so and so to stop yourself from dying. I'm all for the defensive driving courses being mandatory, hell i would love to do one, so i could scare the ИИИИ out of myself, and learn how to control my car properly and safely.

FAT071 · 18-04-2006, 08:20 PM

Soon they will be telling us when to go and have a sh*t and which hand to wipe with.
What a crock of sh*t there's no way in hell I'll limit any of my cars. How will they limit cars without computers? bet they haven't though of that one. You'll be suprised how many cars are still on the roads that don't have computers.
Mick

MAFIA · 18-04-2006, 10:11 PM

BAN LOW PERFORMANCE DRIVERS NOT HIGH PERFORMANCE CARS!!

Amen

HLC · 18-04-2006, 11:38 PM

limited to 120? sounds good to me. at least i wont get done for doing more than 10 over on the motorway

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Keepleft · 19-04-2006, 12:57 AM

This is NOT the doing of the NSW Government.

It IS the head of the NSW Police Traffic Branch wishing to implement the 120km/h proposal, he has the support of Paul Gibson of Staysafe and that is that.

NSW will not legislate this and it is right our Transport Minister has stated so. YES a state can do these things, in the same manner as WA did with engine immobilizers, so forcing an ADR on the issue.

The Commonwealth back in 2004 knocked stone dead, any such proposal. It is right the then deputy PM John Anderson did so.

NSW Police who state 'they have run out of ideas' are advised to resign from their positions and consider other employment alternatives. Leave this comprehensive field for those of us "who can" improve things, I for one detest 'the backward and inefficient' in government agencies who hold up genuine progress.

Stay away from engineering and motor manufacturing, and stick to your public service employment criteria in the enforcement of traffic law AS PASSED BY PARLIAMENT.

IF you wish to go to Europe or the UN to discuss the matter with experts on the various 'working parties', DO be prepared to be rightly 'ignored', the idea was killed off many many years ago in that arena.

JC · 18-04-2006, 08:30 PM

Wh apply a speed limiter only to high performance/sports cars? Surely a car built to run and handle properly at 180 is safer then the family hack BA XT that can do 180, but how safe is it???

We should just follow the speed limit as set by German car manufacturers. 250km/h.

FAT071 · 18-04-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JC

We should just follow the speed limit as set by German car manufacturers. 250km/h.

Pity the roads can't handle that speed it would be nice. you'd do Syd-Bne in 4 hrs instead of 10

paulvdb · 18-04-2006, 09:24 PM

What pee's me off the most about this rubbish is that
- pollies smoke, so they couldn't care less that thousands of people die every year from tobacco
- pollies gamble, so they couldn't care less about gambling addictions ruining families
- pollies don't seem to drive cars for some reason, so suddenly it's terrible that these evil cars are allowed to drive over 10kph without a special guide walking in front waving a red lantern to warn people

Our pollies, shockjocks and their hangers-on are idiots with this current fixation on what's vote-able today rather than what's best for the country. There doesn't seem to be a rational and believable pollie left in our country.

Falcon_Phill · 18-04-2006, 09:32 PM

its absolute bs and not one solution they can come up with will work, unless they ban cars. if they did do it, they should only put them in new cars sold from now on. Much like how you dont have to have seat belts fitted in old cars that didnt have them in them when you bought them.

banarcus · 18-04-2006, 09:37 PM

What the politicians must realise is that we live in a big country. Australians use their cars to travel more than anything else. They must understand that there is big wide countryside outside their city based offices and electorates and their are people who travel in the countryside and there are things to go and see in the big wide open country of ours. Whenever people drive cars, there will be accidents, simple. I wonder how many pollies actually drive motor vehicles on substandard roads. They want to help reduce road tolls, perhaps they can start spending money on roads. Just look at the Mitchell Hwy in the NSW central tablelands. Appalling. Newell Hwy. Appalling. M7 in western Sydney, well what do you say.

Some pollies need to be sacked for drumming up all this rubbish and for the poor state of our roads. I apologise to our city brethren here, I'm sure you have your fair share of crap roads.

I dont see NSW or Australia for that matter, legislating this rubbish. It would cost this country heaps in terms of ADRs for the Euro and Jap manufacturers.

Seems that the pollies get all excited by this stuff, especially when these journos get on the bandwagon about it all.