Getting a new job offer then a better one ! HELP

EA2BA · 07-03-2006, 03:18 PM

Hi all,

Well I am in the same boat as quite a few on here in looking for a new job.

The search for me is basically over, but it is now put me in a very difficult position.

I have to verbally accept Job1 today, but Job2 the one I really want will come back to me till tomorrow if the position can be offered (90%+ sure it will).

So if i accept Job1 verbally based pending checking the contract, then Job2 does get offered, what will be legal obligation in regards to Job1.

For Job1 I am the preffered candidate and they are offering the position to me first, so stalling Job1 will more then likely mean I will miss out, and if Job2 does not happen, I am back looking (I hate looking for a job).

Regards,
Jason :Up_to_som

EA2BA · 07-03-2006, 03:23 PM

I will be making my decision at 3.45pm, so any help at all much appreciated

Martyvan · 07-03-2006, 03:25 PM

AFAIK unless you have physically signed a contract you are not legally obliged to go and work there. But im not a legal eagle.

4.9 EF Futura · 07-03-2006, 03:28 PM

He may be onto something... accept job1 and then see how job2 pans out... if you get job2 then tell job1 that "things have changed, sorry".

If you have a moral objection to such behaviour, then personally i'd be inclined to wait for job2. Can you imagine the feeling if you took job1 but was then offered job2 but had to decline? Could possibly feel worse than missing out on both of them...

This is a tough one for me to answer - i think your decision will really come down to your sense of morals, values and how much more you REALLY want job2?

EA2BA · 07-03-2006, 03:31 PM

Morally I have no problem in doing it, but legaly i dont want to be in the $hit.

I really want Job2, but at the same time I NEED to get a job, otherwise I would decline Job1 and see what happend.

Penelope Pitstop · 07-03-2006, 03:34 PM

I always thought you got 24 hours to decide on offers like that or at least a 24 hour cooling off period if you do accept.... could be wrong though.

07-03-2006, 03:35 PM

Take Job 1 but only verbal ,then if job 2 comes up and its a better job and you really want it ,call job 1 back and say after sleeping on it Ive had second thouhgts and decline the job. Try not to leave it more than a day
Ive had some one even sign and still never turn up on the first day ,Cuz they never left there job and got a better offer for them to stay.

Lukeyson · 07-03-2006, 03:36 PM

as said, my thoughts are, if you havent put pen to paper, your not legally obliged. If you take job1 and job2 works out tommorow, flcik job 1, i am sure they have a few people in the line

07-03-2006, 03:37 PM

Well I started one job, did the orientation and was about to start training, accepted job2 the morning after the orientation and was offered job3 that afternoon, which is what I took. I "resigned" from the first job, and called the job2 agency place that afternoon and told them I can't accept their offer anymore.

Both the job i resigned at and the job agency were mighty ИИИИed off, and they both hanged up on me, but nothing eventuated.

I say accept the first, I mean what can they do to you? Make you work? All your doing really is resigning... I mean you haven;t even signed any contracts....

EA2BA · 07-03-2006, 03:38 PM

A bit more info - I should also have mentioned I rang Job2 and pushed them to get an answer but the MD who is making the decision is not avaliable today (holiday) so am stuck waiting till tomorrow.

1TUFFUTE · 07-03-2006, 07:36 PM

whatever u do dont do a job u dont like, i could think of nothing worse than doing something day in day out that i regretted or didnt like.
See what u want an grab hold with both hands an dont let go :voldar02:

turboute · 07-03-2006, 09:45 PM

What happenned in the end?
I would have told the 1st Job too wait, I have done it previosly, and many people have done it to the companies that have worked for. If they are seriosly interested in you they will wait the 24hrs.

Yummy Mummy · 07-03-2006, 10:15 PM

a verbal is a contract, but it is hard to prove if they ever wanted to take you to court over it, (which I doubt they would). I would go with the advice of the others, tell them you want to review the contract before making a final decision, buying you time to get the offer for job 2.

EA2BA · 08-03-2006, 07:59 AM

Well I have accepted Job1 verbally pending checking the contracts, I will know about Job2 this morning.

Both Jobs I would be more then happy to do, Job2 I would enjoy more and its closer to home and better pay, hence my whole delima in the first place.

merlin · 08-03-2006, 08:31 AM

I've been in the exact same position before too. You did the right thing in accepting Job 1, if Job 2 is accepted then just resign from Job 1.

BlueRaven · 08-03-2006, 08:54 AM

Yeah, you did the best course of action. I've had a similar experience before. I went for a few jobs and got an offer for two on the same day - so I had to pick the one I thought would be better.

The job I chose in the end was terrible.... but I quit and got a better job in the end anyway! :P

max^power · 08-03-2006, 09:05 AM

you're lucky, my job hunting is not going so well.

EA2BA · 08-03-2006, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by max^power

you're lucky, my job hunting is not going so well.

From when I started actually looking for a job took me over a month easy, and applying for around 5 positions per day, i used seek, my career, and careerone and went through them twice a day, met plenty of recruiters but nothing happened, only with Job1 I got to meet the employer and get offered, Job2 is who I know.

So geeting a Job turned out harder then I expected thats for sure.

max^power · 08-03-2006, 09:23 AM

so far ive had hundreds of applications sent and only a handful of interviews. i applied for a job that was well below what im doing now to make sure i'm not going for jobs out of my league, with not even an interview.

anyway i dont want to steal the thread, just thought i'd say well done.

EA2BA · 08-03-2006, 09:44 AM

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Job2 has come through, the one I want at a very nice salary as well.

So I have the Job I wanted

: , just waiting in the letter of offer before I inform Job1 thanks but sorry.

I have to do some simple tests as well for Job2, a phsycometric, some numbers/maths test, and a lateral thinking test.

anyone done any of these sort of tests before.

Mack 6 · 08-03-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EA2BA

I have to do some simple tests as well for Job2, a phsycometric, some numbers/maths test, and a lateral thinking test.

anyone done any of these sort of tests before.

Yes I have.. yesterday in fact, but mine was for a government position so may be a little different.
Psychometric tests are there to evaluate your strengths and weaknesses as well as to see how you think, interact and behave. numbers maths is obvious, they'll get you to do simple mathematicaly problems that get progressively harder and more complex. Same goes with lateral thinking or problem solving skills.
You can't really learn for any on of the tests, but having a clear head is an advantage, try to ignore it's a test and forget about what you need to do to the EA later that night.

Now for a little self praise and thread Hi-jacking. I have passed all my aptitude, psych and medical testing for department of corrections with flying colours. I was especially happy that my left hand (the buggered one) performed well and enabled me to pass the grip test with the strength being in the average area for my age group. That's even with buggered tendons and fingers.

As for you Big fella, congrats for getting what you want, can I ask what field it is in?
As for the rest looking for work, Good Luck

Lukeyson · 08-03-2006, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EA2BA

anyone done any of these sort of tests before.

If its a hot chick doing the testing, be sure to offer her to give you 'the cough test'

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Mack 6 · 09-03-2006, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by XR8fella

If its a hot chick doing the testing, be sure to offer her to give you 'the cough test'

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I had a 5 foot tall asian doc give me the *COUGH*, cough test. I coughed really loud so as many people outside the office could hear me.

I did get the sexiest physio there next tho, and she was impressed by my flexibility and strength

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Ringo · 08-03-2006, 11:53 AM

Nah no tests like that done on me...

What job are we talking about here ? What industry? Doing what?

Curiousity is killing me.

4.9 EF Futura · 08-03-2006, 12:28 PM

Yeah ive done cognitive ability tests for my job. Simple. You're a smart lad - you'll do fine.

Its really more about profiling you as opposed to yay or nay on the job...

BTW - congratulations.

Tornado · 08-03-2006, 12:37 PM

Congratulations mate.
I have done something similar. I done the Myres & Briggs Personality Profile.
I am an ESTJ

I'm also looking for work so if you know of any one looking for a Unix(Solaris) Admin or Specialist or engineer or what ever thay want to call it, let me know.

A copy of my CV is available here

EA2BA · 08-03-2006, 04:11 PM

OK well Job2 the one I wanted is working in the IT department, the job is network administrator but it is more IT administration, servers, migration off NT and all the rest of the user requests like my mouse doesnt work. The company is MtM they make automotive parts such as the BA Shifter, BF Shifter, handles, door strikers etc, etc.

4.9 EF Futura · 08-03-2006, 04:13 PM

Lol, im declaring a conflict of interests!

Ringo · 09-03-2006, 01:14 PM

Cool......

I did testing for VACC group scheme apprenticeship and got told I was in the top 10% of the state.........huh WTF ?......I ain't that bright?

Mack 6 · 09-03-2006, 01:43 PM

Boasting rights hey.

I did psych and aptitude testing about 18 months ago for a change in my army profession (even reserves need to meet regular standards)

I was informed that I scored in the top 2% of the army. Not bad if you consider that not all the army are dumb *** grunts like somepeople think.
I won't even tell you my IQ,