14.025 ET for BF XR6T Auto

GFSperformance · 04-01-2006, 11:21 PM

Ok, I guess we are one of the first to post times for the new 6 speed auto - here it is:

WSID Wednesday 4 January 2006
BF XR6T Ute 6 Speed Auto
4,000 kms ODO
Temp 22C
ET 14.025
MPH 102

The Ute is absolutely stock and was run with normal tyre pressures, half tank of fuel, spare tyre, tailgate closed etc etc

Our method was to load up the revs to about 2,500rpm while the brake is on and then let it go - with a touch of wheel slip.

We ran out of time tonight but we reckon with 3,000-3,200rpm dialed up we could have easily gone into the 13's.

Anthony
GFS Performance
The Shires Premium Speed Shop

SpoolMan · 04-01-2006, 11:30 PM

Interesting thought it would be a little better, what was your 60 foot time?
I would be careful of loading it up so much on the stall, it takes timing out of the car the truncation looks after the drivline...I found when stalling up my BA the 60 foot time was better around 1600 rpm, soon as I stood on the brake with lots of stall the 60 foot time went backwards...
Lucky with the Edit they can turn off this truncation ..

Aaron_EF8 · 04-01-2006, 11:38 PM

Will the ZF 6spd stall to 3200 rpm??

Not bad times, although I was expecting mid 13's with the new 6 speed.

What 60ft did you run?

**Stav** · 05-01-2006, 12:17 AM

Thats interesting.A stock auto stalling so high 2500 rpm....little wheelspin?? Something seems a bit odd about that.I thought you would fry the tyres at that stall speed..I do so this is why I am curious about that.

Good time though......

BLKFPV · 05-01-2006, 04:17 AM

SWMBO's BF XRT 6 speed auto struggles to to stall up to 2500rpm however it gets off the mark better when held at around 1800rpm

congrats on a good time (especially with the ute's extra weight)

Racecraft · 05-01-2006, 06:34 AM

That isn't a bad time but where do you live to get 22 degress temps at this time of year?

Lukeyson · 05-01-2006, 08:03 AM

bear in mind its only got 4000kms on board, good for another 0.2-0.3 with another 10'000kms on the clock

madmatty · 05-01-2006, 09:12 AM

60 foot time = 2.223

The run was at WSID in Sydney on a cool and overcast night.

I have stalled the 6 speed up to 4,000 rpm without wheel spin so 3,000 is easy.

I do agree with what you say about the factory computer but at the end of the day you have to get the car on boost to launch and run a decent time.

We will be modding the car over the next few months so stay tuned.

Anthony
GFS Performance
The SHires Premium Speed Shop

Quadcams · 05-01-2006, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmatty

60 foot time = 2.223

The run was at WSID in Sydney on a cool and overcast night.

I have stalled the 6 speed up to 4,000 rpm without wheel spin so 3,000 is easy.

I do agree with what you say about the factory computer but at the end of the day you have to get the car on boost to launch and run a decent time.

We will be modding the car over the next few months so stay tuned.

Anthony
GFS Performance
The SHires Premium Speed Shop

Mate was that your red XR8 at WSID last night as I was there also.

madmatty · 05-01-2006, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowride260

Mate was that your red XR8 at WSID last night as I was there also.

yeah that was me alright
what mods do you have to run 12.9 ?

Quadcams · 05-01-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by madmatty

yeah that was me alright
what mods do you have to run 12.9 ?

Full exaust,underdrives,helix,Bluepower cai, 4.1 gears,edit tuned by Chris (Bluepower) and a 1.816 60' helps alot to.

**Stav** · 05-01-2006, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmatty

I have stalled the 6 speed up to 4,000 rpm without wheel spin so 3,000 is easy.

Is this what they normally stall to ?

05-01-2006, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmatty

I have stalled the 6 speed up to 4,000 rpm without wheel spin so 3,000 is easy.

you sure it's not a 6 speed manual

X ORSMXR · 07-01-2006, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmatty

60 foot time = 2.223

The run was at WSID in Sydney on a cool and overcast night.

I have stalled the 6 speed up to 4,000 rpm without wheel spin so 3,000 is easy.

I do agree with what you say about the factory computer but at the end of the day you have to get the car on boost to launch and run a decent time.

We will be modding the car over the next few months so stay tuned.

Anthony
GFS Performance
The SHires Premium Speed Shop

Mate can't believe you can stall a stock car without edit to 4,000rpm let alone 3,000 as they go into limp mode....my mates ba turbo can only go to 2,200 without turning the tyres and that with the handbrake on...so l think you maybe you have a 4cyl tacho been put in the car lol.....maybe you should come down to the forum meet and show us how you stall the car to 4,000 rpm

**Stav** · 07-01-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ORSMXR

lol.....maybe you should come down to the forum meet and show us how you stall the car to 4,000 rpm

And photo

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The new turbo f6 cars sound like an awesome car...how much do those things go for?

GFSperformance · 08-01-2006, 02:44 PM

Guys,

All we have tried to do is show what quarter mile time can be acheived with a stock XR6T 6 Speed auto. I thought it would be a help to describe our launch technique but now I regret even posting it.

Lets just move on and talk about the basis of this post which is quarter mile times for the new 6 speed auto.

Anthony
GFS Performance

**Chris** · 09-01-2006, 09:12 AM

Anthony - no regrets on anyones part on this forum, we are all mates.

People will want to know launch technique as it is a pretty critical part of the run, and the method and description does not compute. People will say "oh, why can GFSperformance stall their car over 2900 and we cannot"?

hot460 · 05-01-2006, 07:51 PM

I was at WSID last night too, I stalled my car up to 2300 with standard convertor. with 2.045 60ft's. When i stalled up too 1600 in most of my previous outings the best 60s were 2.097. Times dropped from 13.7 down to 13.509. at 101.97mph
Also my 60ft's on SP3000 were 2.097 with the standard diff. so getting your 60'ft,s down will make a huge difference.

Quadcams · 05-01-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hot460

I was at WSID last night too, I stalled my car up to 2300 with standard convertor. with 2.045 60ft's. When i stalled up too 1600 in most of my previous outings the best 60s were 2.097. Times dropped from 13.7 down to 13.509. at 101.97mph
Also my 60ft's on SP3000 were 2.097 with the standard diff. so getting your 60'ft,s down will make a huge difference.

Great effort last night Rich especially winning cash for reaction time (.009)

madmatty · 05-01-2006, 08:53 PM

When are you guys going again?
i hope to get my car dyno tuned and crack 13.

hot460 · 05-01-2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmatty

When are you guys going again?
i hope to get my car dyno tuned and crack 13.

Next time I have ago will be at the AFF meet in heathcote at the end of the month and I think lowride260 (Wade)and myv8(Chris) are too.

Quadcams · 05-01-2006, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmatty

When are you guys going again?
i hope to get my car dyno tuned and crack 13.

Mate I wasnt supose to be there last night but a couple of the boys (you know who you are) hasseled me into going not hard twisting my rubber arm, mate no more racing till the AFF meet on the 28th.

Gauntster · 05-01-2006, 10:42 PM

Still don't understand how you stall up a standard stally to 4000 rpm with out smoking the rear end up? Please explain because I am having trouble.

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MYV8 · 06-01-2006, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowride260

Mate I wasnt supose to be there last night but a couple of the boys (you know who you are) hasseled me into going not hard twisting my rubber arm, mate no more racing till the AFF meet on the 28th.

Oh come on mate, it's forecast for cold weather next Wednesday LoL.
I need a bit more practice before you hammer me at Heathcote.

Good going Rich, I think you were the only one at WSID that got a PB.

hot460 · 05-01-2006, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowride260

Great effort last night Rich especially winning cash for reaction time (.009)

Thanks mate, I had a ball! The little women was into me about not getting the T serviced so she could race...... Opps.

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Quadcams · 05-01-2006, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hot460

Thanks mate, I had a ball! The little women was into me about not getting the T serviced so she could race...... Opps.

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He he.... Mate I had to do heaps of suff this arvo to make up for going last night.

**Stav** · 06-01-2006, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFSperformance

The Ute is absolutely stock

COUGH COUGH COUGH!!!

To not wheelspin at 4000rpm? Common mate admit it either the stallie is 5000rpm,you have a transbrake fitted,your tacho is busted.Or you clutches and bands are burnt out?

Does god still use lightning on us anymore??

FPVWEPN · 06-01-2006, 12:32 AM

yhe i dont get it either a 4000 clutch dump with 1/4 throttle will result in wheelspin in my car so whats the car with urs u running it on an athletics track or something?

madmatty · 06-01-2006, 07:43 AM

ok here is the proceduce pay atention its complicated

start motor
select drive(must be bf 6 speed auto by the way)
left foot on brake (hard)
right foot on throttle
apply pressure and build revs slowly
once desired revs build up release brake flatten gas and hang on.

**Chris** · 06-01-2006, 08:27 AM

I am making the assumption (not knocking anyone here) that there is a problem or the car is not stock.

With the car not making its VS calculation, and seeing rpm climb above 2900, the transmission safety protocol will see this car drop into limp mode, ( auto gear indicator on dash flashing and car locked in 3rd gear.)

The car will also log a code. The other issue that befuddles be is why an engine which at best will make 210rwkw will push a converter so high?

The ET and MPH make sense, the methods and startline behaviour seems peculiar and not indicative of a standard car.