AU wagon 0-100 in 5 second bracket?

**Stav** · 13-09-2005, 06:17 PM

This is my goal.. What can I do to do this ? Is it possible out of a six cylinder AU wagon auto?? A fat *** stall converter? 4:11 diff ratio?Dev 5 big mutha?? Without a turbo what more can I do?

Walkinshaw · 13-09-2005, 06:25 PM

looking for 5.99 0-100?

Manual
Ported Head
3.73:1LSD
Bigger cam

Should see it done.

(Aiming for a 1/4mile time + MPH, would be a better approach)

**Stav** · 13-09-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

looking for 5.99 0-100?

Manual
Ported Head
3.73:1LSD
Bigger cam

Should see it done.

(Aiming for a 1/4mile time + MPH, would be a better approach)

Well to tell you the truth I started with 0-100 in about 10 seconds when I bought the thing.
Race series extractors and catback 0-100 best of 7.2.
Dev 4 cam 0-100 best 7.2 seconds.
Added the unichip 0-100 best in 6.53 seconds .(fixed air fuel ratios and maybe brought the cam to life a bit)

If I can drop another .6 second I could possibly get a 5.9?

I just have to work out what?

sfr rob · 13-09-2005, 07:20 PM

so did the cam do nothing?

is the uni chip a good thing? or would you chuck one in AFTER the other stuff?

i am still deciding on wheather ( right spelling?? ) to start some engine mods... i just know that once you start.. there aint no stopping!!!

Rob

**Stav** · 13-09-2005, 07:44 PM

Mate the cam is a fine cam.The dev 4 cam with the dev cylinder head should up the power to an honest 160 rwkws.
Did the cam made no difference...well as far as the most regular dyno I have visited over the past 12 months Croydons Dyno in Silverwater my car has not pulled less than 141 rwkws with the dev 4.
Whilst 0-100 did not improve but the power did.A standard AU with exhaust will never pull 141 rwkws on any dyno and definately not on theirs. I got that power figure after the cam went in.So the cam did make a difference to the top end.
Then I went in to mate Spiro at Autotech engineering.He did a unichip tune and gave me a top figure of 136.9 rwkws.However the car got a 0-100 best of 6.53 seconds.It feels better to drive and pulls much better too.
1 week later I ended up at a dyno day with the fpv club. On that dyno I pulled 141.9 .So go figure the numbers.

At the end of the day I got pretty sick of dyno numbers and relied on times.

This is where my logic lies.I really believe that a car will simply not go faster if it does not put down more power per unit of time.So if your car is going faster and your regular dyno does not show an improvent then rely on your times simple.
I would recommend a chip after you have optimised everything.But as I have said time it before and after for the truth.

Bucknaked · 13-09-2005, 06:31 PM

I think Wagons are best suited to taking the children to soccer on Saturday Mornings and picking up the shopping.

**Stav** · 13-09-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

I think Wagons are best suited to taking the children to soccer on Saturday Mornings and picking up the shopping.

I like to get the shopping done a bit quicker mate. I worry about the ice cream melting!!:1syellow1

dansedgli · 15-09-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

I like to get the shopping done a bit quicker mate. I worry about the ice cream melting!!:1syellow1

What happened to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^????????????? :dr_Evil:

parawolf · 13-09-2005, 06:32 PM

get two extra cylinders...

13-09-2005, 06:40 PM

decent stally,shift kit ,3.9s ,some major headwork , decent cam and a good tune .
don't forget some fat **** rubber on the back of it

neb · 13-09-2005, 07:51 PM

What Walkinshaw said will do it for sure. What he said will basically be my setup soon.. Just sorting out a replacement clutch and gearbox at the moment, then the diff gears will be going in, and then headwork and a unichip.

Show them what a wagon can do useless

**Stav** · 13-09-2005, 07:56 PM

I am looking at a stallie and 3.45-3:9 diff I dont want to take the head off.O the other thing is a dual exhaust!!

**Stav** · 13-09-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by neb

What Walkinshaw said will do it for sure. What he said will basically be my setup soon.. Just sorting out a replacement clutch and gearbox at the moment, then the diff gears will be going in, and then headwork and a unichip.

Show them what a wagon can do useless

Good luck Neb.You will be the man soon!! My EB wagon used to feel heaps lighter than my AU.

neb · 13-09-2005, 08:29 PM

Thanks useless, dual exhaust would be good I've been thinking about that as well!

Anyway we both know a hotted up wagon is better than a riced up AU xr6!

**Stav** · 13-09-2005, 08:34 PM

The fastest accelerating ca rI have ever been in was a 250 2v xa sedan.Dual exhaust joined not at the collector but the two last pipes before the collector. That thing used 80 dollars of fuel on 380 km per tank..back in 1985 but it moved man...It was obscene!!I am thinking about dual cats.

**Stav** · 13-09-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by neb

Thanks useless, dual exhaust would be good I've been thinking about that as well!

Anyway we both know a hotted up wagon is better than a riced up AU xr6!

hahhah!!true. A case of the slick Rabbit vs the stealthy turtle looks fast but the turtle still past the line first!!

Casper · 13-09-2005, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

hahhah!!true. A case of the slick Rabbit vs the stealthy turtle looks fast but the turtle still past the line first!!

LOL, riiiiiiight.

Just remember Useless, short of FI you are running out of major mods to do now.
I doubt you'll get into the 5's without taking off the head and giving it some major work.

I'll keep my "turtle" at the moment. Its hardly been breathed on and its still ahead. I'll actually get around to modifying it some day too... then we'll see whos a turtle :P

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**Stav** · 13-09-2005, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

LOL, riiiiiiight.

Just remember Useless, short of FI you are running out of major mods to do now.
I doubt you'll get into the 5's without taking off the head and giving it some major work.

I'll keep my "turtle" at the moment. Its hardly been breathed on and its still ahead. I'll actually get around to modifying it some day too... then we'll see whos a turtle :P

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As many forum members have by now proabaly noticed I have one psychological problem.I believe that I can !!! I dont like taking what is handed to me because someone else says it is good.If it does work ill do it. Common buddy you know me by now

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Yes I know that once you do your mods that I will need nappy rash powder to get over it..

Casper · 13-09-2005, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

As many forum members have by now proabaly noticed I have one psychological problem.I believe that I can !!! I dont like taking what is handed to me because someone else says it is good.If it does work ill do it. Common buddy you know me by now

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Yes I know that once you do your mods that I will need nappy rash powder to get over it..

Stav, if you want 5's you need to do head work....at least. Diff and a manual would probably be important too.

loxxr6 · 13-09-2005, 08:50 PM

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is the uni chip a good thing? or would you chuck one in AFTER the other stuff?

Wait til all the other stuff is done. Saves you having to do a retune after every mod. Unichip (or most edits) = good.

Racecraft · 13-09-2005, 09:25 PM

0-100 in less than 6 means your car would do a 14 1/4 mile..

T_Terror · 13-09-2005, 11:27 PM

Any particular reason u staying away from turbo?

Short of that a 50-100hp nitrous shot should push you into the 5s.

**Stav** · 13-09-2005, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by T_Terror

Any particular reason u staying away from turbo?

Short of that a 50-100hp nitrous shot should push you into the 5s.

yes ...I like a stealthy looking car.My car still looks as standard as..

duaned · 15-09-2005, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by useless

yes ...I like a stealthy looking car.My car still looks as standard as..

some of us would like to call it a ... sleeper!

**Stav** · 15-09-2005, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ddarby

some of us would like to call it a ... sleeper!

Yer babyyyyyyyyy!!! Now you are talking.

dansedgli · 15-09-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ddarby

some of us would like to call it a ... sleeper!

The term sleeper gets used way too much around here. A car that runs in the high 15's+ over the quarter mile and 6's to get to 100 is not worthy of sleeper status.

A slow car can not be a sleeper. A slow "sleeper" is a regular everyday work/family hack. Not a performance car.

neb · 15-09-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

The term sleeper gets used way too much around here. A car that runs in the high 15's+ over the quarter mile and 6's to get to 100 is not worthy of sleeper status.

A slow car can not be a sleeper. A slow "sleeper" is a regular everyday work/family hack. Not a performance car.

0-100 in 6 seconds... is a low 15/high 14... which isn't bad for a street car.... especially a 6cylinder wagon, sounds like sleeper status to me will beat a few v8s etc. not everyone has 11second turbo cars :P

**Stav** · 15-09-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

The term sleeper gets used way too much around here. A car that runs in the high 15's+ over the quarter mile and 6's to get to 100 is not worthy of sleeper status.

A slow car can not be a sleeper. A slow "sleeper" is a regular everyday work/family hack. Not a performance car.

You may have an 11 second car mate but I would run you 0-100 without any remorse or second thought. Get the gtech on to it and let us know what you do eh?

T_Terror · 15-09-2005, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

yes ...I like a stealthy looking car.My car still looks as standard as..

If you mean under bonnet then you can use a low mount manifold and a heat shield, most people wouldnt be able to pick the turbo on the BAs if they didnt have badges on them. Paint the cooler and piping black and have a plumb back BOV and i doubt the average copper would be able to pick it for what it is.

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Originally Posted by Mechan1k

Ia m going to have to resort to FI in the ute ... no one has come back to me in regards to a decent cam for the AU EGAS motor ... nothing even from JMM as well.

So I am starting to save for a low-boost S/C kit ... I need some more low-down torque ... for work of course ... hee hee

I take it you mean like a Vortech or Powerdyne or soemthing? You wont get much low down torque with a centrifugal supercharger, boost is relative to revs with them.
A turbo will give you boost throughout the rev range since a 4.0litre will give plenty of exhaust flow.

Disregard that if ur talking about a PD blower.

xr8ute · 13-09-2005, 11:33 PM

head porting and higher stall converter IMO