HELP!!! 4x4's stuck

arlester · 11-01-2011, 07:23 AM

So went out for some fun with friends last night up in Townsville for some offroad work. There was two of us to start with. Havin some good times when the guy in front gets stuck. So I thought no worries I'll just go the other way and pull in front. But no as I go back abit she bogs down and isn't going anywhere. Keeping in mind we are both on road tires. My friend had a Maverick and I was in a D-Max.

So we've called a friend out And be obliges but when he arrives gets stuck 20 meters before he can reach us. Now he's stuck up to the diff in a patrol. Over the course of the night we get some people on the UHF who come give us a hand but everyone is just getting stuck.

So with all cars stuck what options do we have to get em out. Is there a service you can call? Or do we just need to wait and work at it?

TheInterceptor · 11-01-2011, 08:11 AM

Hm not sure, SES or Police? (coppers wouldent be free if they do it)
I hate that "were all bogged were screwed now" feeling.

The Yeti · 16-01-2011, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TheInterceptor

Hm not sure, SES

the SES have better things to do than dig idiots outof holes and well, I cant think why they should

google 4WD retreval companys in your area and stick your hand in your pocket then join a 4WD club and learn how to drive / recover properly

TheInterceptor · 16-01-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Yeti

the SES have better things to do than dig idiots outof holes and well, I cant think why they should

google 4WD retreval companys in your area and stick your hand in your pocket then join a 4WD club and learn how to drive / recover properly

Yes my bad, it was an early morning post for me......

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Originally Posted by YOOT

The amount of times I have been on the beach at Bribie in the Forester only to watch some P-Platers in there 1984 hilux with 5" Lift take off up the cutting in 2WD and churn it to ****, jump tracks backwards and forwards all the way to the end. Just to prove they don't 'need' 4WD is unbelievable. All the are proving is how stupid they are. At least though in each occasion I just trundled up in 2nd gear in the forester and just regraded the track flat with the front bash pan. I make sure to give then a look the says "What's the big deal?"

Bit like the old addage at Fraser, when you get to camp there is always someone who brags how they drove all the way up there in 2WD. Yeah well at low tide there is no difference between bitumen and the sand so big deal. Stupid thing is they are not saving fuel as most 4WDs with auto hubs are still locked until you stop and reverse 1m to unlock them. Brains are few and far between when you head "off-road"...

Yeah absolutley right. Unfortunatly these twats make sure the tracks are closed due to excesive damage or closure via their behaviour....

Brazen · 11-01-2011, 08:18 AM

you will probably need a tractor, is there a nearby farm? you could pay the farmer say 40 bucks a car?

my_gxl · 11-01-2011, 08:24 AM

Did anyone think to let their tyres down to about 15-20psi before they went in?
Doesn't matter that they are road tyres, the extra floatation creates grip.

This may still help someone who isn't stuck now.

Anyone have a winch on their car? If so, at a minimum they can bury their spare tyre if there is no good solid anchor point.

Neeek · 11-01-2011, 08:40 AM

Yep - find a guy with a tractor and pay him whatever he asks.

Jim Goose · 11-01-2011, 08:55 AM

How about the advice, did anyone think???

Brainless morons such as your self who think they are invincible end up costing emergency services money and get other people into danger all because you wanted to have "fun".....

And for those who keep missing the message.... there is now up to 72 people feared dead in Toowoomba because of flooding, not to mention others (at least 6 that i know of) who have died because they hav driven into flooded roads....

Last night there was flash flooding in Townsville... and you idiots thought it would be fun to go for a drive?

arlester · 11-01-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

How about the advice, did anyone think???

Brainless morons such as your self who think they are invincible end up costing emergency services money and get other people into danger all because you wanted to have "fun".....

And for those who keep missing the message.... there is now up to 72 people feared dead in Toowoomba because of flooding, not to mention others (at least 6 that i know of) who have died because they hav driven into flooded roads....

Last night there was flash flooding in Townsville... and you idiots thought it would be fun to go for a drive?

Yes we did think. Of course we didn't think we were invincible and we went to a place that we normally do go. We are less than 1km from civilisation aswell. The only reason the 2 got bogged was because the first car didn't follow the track properly and I was trying to go backwards up a hill. As for the other cars then I don't exactly know why they got bogged but one of them found a rut that we avoided.

I do understand what is happening in Towoomba and it is not nice but where we are is pretty safe. Also I have obviously figured out my mistake and would like to not have to be 'Told off'.

To all the people that have advice on what I can do thank you and keep it coming.

Ben73 · 11-01-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

How about the advice, did anyone think???

Brainless morons such as your self who think they are invincible end up costing emergency services money and get other people into danger all because you wanted to have "fun".....

And for those who keep missing the message.... there is now up to 72 people feared dead in Toowoomba because of flooding, not to mention others (at least 6 that i know of) who have died because they hav driven into flooded roads....

Last night there was flash flooding in Townsville... and you idiots thought it would be fun to go for a drive?

Oh no people using cars for recreation and entertainment!! What has the world come to...
Is this guys area actually flooding? or are you just bringing in an unrelated topic.
4wding is fun, sometimes you get stuck. Stop being negative and calling these people idiots.

ZA-289 · 11-01-2011, 09:10 AM

Something like this happened a few months ago on Outerlimits 4x4. There were 12 cars stuck in the end for about 2 days.

A guy with a zook on 33's pulled them all out!

arlester · 11-01-2011, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ZA-289

Something like this happened a few months ago on Outerlimits 4x4. There were 12 cars stuck in the end for about 2 days.

A guy with a zook on 33's pulled them all out!

Yeah a friend used to have a Zook that would do that all the time. Unfortunetly that car is not running at the moment.

66GT · 11-01-2011, 09:26 AM

you may be able to ask the local army boys nicely for assistance. A unimog of theirs should get you out?

fairBA · 11-01-2011, 09:30 AM

Call the local Toyota dealer - Tell them you'd like a demo of what a 200 Series can do.

GT 160 · 12-01-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fairBA

Call the local Toyota dealer - Tell them you'd like a demo of what a 200 Series can do.

Yes, a demonstration on why IFS is *****.

TheInterceptor · 12-01-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fitzwa

Yes, a demonstration on why IFS is *****.

Independent suspension is only ***** in the wrong hands. If you pick your lines more carefully then there is no issue.

KYSBF · 12-01-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheInterceptor

Independent suspension is only ***** in the wrong hands. If you pick your lines more carefully then there is no issue.

Hmmm, dunno about that mate.
I think it is more relative to what you want to use it for. IFS is great for comfort and ride quality, solid axle is great for articulation and keeping all 4 on the deck.
Not too many comp rigs with IFS, most of those guys are pretty good at picking lines......

TheInterceptor · 12-01-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KYSBF

Hmmm, dunno about that mate.
I think it is more relative to what you want to use it for. IFS is great for comfort and ride quality, solid axle is great for articulation and keeping all 4 on the deck.
Not too many comp rigs with IFS, most of those guys are pretty good at picking lines......

Yeah true. A deeply rutted track heading uphill would probobly be a nightmare for an IS vehicle, would be alot better if locked front and rear. A solid axle vehicle would pretty much go through without too much of a fuss.

But for your average track it shouldn't be a huge issue if you apply logic to your driving.

pottery beige · 11-01-2011, 09:38 AM

winch.. turfer.. sticks.. rocks.. bits of trees.. goodluck.. some pics would be nice....... hahahaha..

pottery beige · 11-01-2011, 09:40 AM

pull your head in jim... your not being very constructive.... in fact your being a goose....

arlester · 11-01-2011, 09:50 AM

One of the cars had a winch but that broke. That's what happens when the idiot doesn't dig first.

I think they have someone else coming out with a pretty good 4x4. hopefully that will work

XB GS 351 Coupe · 11-01-2011, 10:11 AM

Did anyone think after the second or even third vehicle got bogged to change strategies, instead of just driving into the bog one after the other, I have tears in my eyes laughing just imagining it, that clip on video would be priceless

You will have to either find a mate with a 4X4, AND with an IQ greater of a common house brick to come and get you, and or pay someone that knows what they are doing. I understand the first vehicle getting bogged, and may be even the second to some degree, but the third???? Wasn't anyone thinking well its boggy in there, may be he should not drive in there.

The best option I can think of would be a local farmer with a tractor he will be able to pull you out no dramas, expect to be paying him between $100-200 per vehicle to get it dragged out, considering his tractor is probably worth more than all the cars bogged there put together and he has better things to do than rescue amateurs I feel that would be a fair price to pay for stupidity.

And expect the farmer to stand there and p!$$ himself laughing for about 20 minutes while he takes photos for his mates so they can laugh about it for weeks while drinking all the beer you guys have just bought him

Apart from that your options are shovel and lots of digging, and hand winches such as a good turfer with some timbers and sticks and more digging, google 4X4 recovery techniques to learn more.

but this has just made my day, the funniest thread ever since I been here

KYSBF · 11-01-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Did anyone think after the second or even third vehicle got bogged to change strategies, instead of just driving into the bog one after the other, I have tears in my eyes laughing just imagining it, that clip on video would be priceless

Apart from that your options are shovel and lots of digging, and hand winches such as a good turfer with some timbers and sticks and more digging, google 4X4 recovery techniques to learn more.

but this has just made my day, the funniest thread ever since I been here

touche!!

Jim Goose · 11-01-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

pull your head in jim... your not being very constructive.... in fact your being a goose....

gobble gobble.....

RG · 11-01-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

gobble gobble.....

That's a turkey you goose.

How many vehicles have bullbars equipped to take a winch? If there are any now is a real good time to invest in them.

You need shovels, hi-rise jacks, a winch or three (Good quality WARN or equivalent, not cheap rubbish), drop the pressures in the tyres.

If you don't know what to do with all that gear you're about to learn real quick.

Have fun.

**Falcon Coupe** · 11-01-2011, 10:19 AM

The OP is asking for help/advice, if you have nothing constructive to offer then don't bother posting.

Nickxb · 11-01-2011, 10:19 AM

Depends what you are bogged in. Try and dig yourself out and pack hard material such as logs etc under the tyres. If you have no recovery gear, get one vehicle out and try to get someone with some 4x4 experience to help the rest.

Also try lightly pumping the brake as you guild up touque. This will help send drive to all wheels. I prefer low 2nd for self recoveries as low 1st has too many revs.

If all else fails, leave the vehicle and get to saftey.

arlester · 11-01-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickxb

Depends what you are bogged in. Try and dig yourself out and pack hard material such as logs etc under the tyres. If you have no recovery gear, get one vehicle out and try to get someone with some 4x4 experience to help the rest.

Also try lightly pumping the brake as you guild up touque. This will help send drive to all wheels. I prefer low 2nd for self recoveries as low 1st has too many revs.

If all else fails, leave the vehicle and get to saftey.

We have a car there now that isn't bogged. The problem after the rain is now the area anywhere near the cars is boggy.

We are bogged in a mix of mud and clay. mostly mud.

Getting to safety is not a problem as we are less than a kilometer from the suburb that I live in.

The reason so many cars got bogged is because to get to the cars you have to go through some boggy stuff. This are is very close to salt flats aswell.

XCwillo · 11-01-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Brainless morons such as your self who think they are invincible end up costing emergency services money and get other people into danger all because you wanted to have "fun".....

It's called 4x4'ing mate, people get bogged, it always happens.
Its like getting up someone for crashing their car in a drag race and saying they cost the people so much to clean up :\

Do you have any loading ramps for moto's ect?
Digging them under the tyres works very swell

arlester · 11-01-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by XCwillo

It's called 4x4'ing mate, people get bogged, it always happens.
Its like getting up someone for crashing their car in a drag race and saying they cost the people so much to clean up :\

Do you have any loading ramps for moto's ect?
Digging them under the tyres works very swell

No loading ramps but we do have 2 of those MaxiTrax. The plastic boards with the spikes for the wheels