Fiesta ST (3-door) is coming! Australian Media Coverage (Links)

[LeadFoot81]

The Fiesta ST is almost here! Around 2 months of waiting left!

See below for Australian coverage of the ST's impending arrival.

Members, feel free to post links to articles or videos related to the Fiesta ST coming to our shores!

CarAdvice.com.au

Ford Fiesta ST Review

http://www.caradvice.com.au/230641/f...sta-st-review/

Ford Fiesta ST off to a flying start in the UK

http://www.caradvice.com.au/220059/f...ying-start-uk/

GoAuto

Ford Skips Fiesta ST five-door

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257AD1001680A9

Ford Australia

Keep Me Informed - All-New Fiesta ST

https://www.secure.ford.com.au/cars/...iestaST_Fiesta

[NanoDuke]

Ford Australia Facebook are starting to tease us a bit more with recent posts:
The "new" Fiesta being test-driven around Australia:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

And this confusing post about the Fiesta Metal:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Confusing because they go on to ask Australia "We’re still looking for possible driving routes - if you know any great roads that would be perfect for an EcoBoost-powered hot-hatch, let us know!"
Here's hoping the Metal becomes available in the EcoBoost engine. EDIT Oh, nope. "Hi Dion, Fiesta Metal is powered by a 1.6L Duratec and Fiesta ST will have the EcoBoost engine."

The latest Motor magazine has a single page article about it, but still showing the 5-door photos :/ They have a release date of "August".

[Alan D Segal]

Originally Posted by NanoDuke

The latest Motor magazine has a single page article about it, but still showing the 5-door photos :/ They have a release date of "August".

Motor magazine also put a photoshopped picture of a Ford Taurus with the FG GT rims on the front cover and said it is the 'final phase' of the GT falcon.

[DJM83]

Cant wait to see one of these in the flesh

I really wish the Focus ST was 3 door, cause god the Fez ST looks fantastic. Should i have waited

[NanoDuke]

I saw a brochure at a local dealership today, so not long now. Unfortunately i couldn't take the brochure with me.

Cheers,
Duke

[GoesLikeAZetec]

I wonder since its going to be supplied from Germany, if we will have the same long wait times we had way back when the WS first came out?

[Pursya]

Originally Posted by GoesLikeAZetec

I wonder since its going to be supplied from Germany, if we will have the same long wait times we had way back when the WS first came out?

Would depend entirely on how much faith the bean counters at FordOz have in the product.
Any "sporting" version of a model will always be a low volume mover for the company. And considering there appears to be a hefty price step up from the current hero spec, and less actual "metal", it would be a worry for said bean counters.
Anyone want to have a stab at initial import numbers? Considering the Black had 250 units and they were hard to shift, I'll say 200.

[NanoDuke]

My local ford dealer have two reds coming in and that's it for the year apparently.

Cheers,
Duke

[DJM83]

Surely that cant be correct?

Maybe they know your keen so they are telling you about limited supply, it happened with the Focus ST aswell. Although they were limited in supply for a little while.

[Pursya]

It's June.
Most media believe the ST to be an August release.
These cars are here already, or very close.
"Limited Supply"? Only if they have under ordered for 2013.
The Ford dealer would be correct though, there won't be any more going down the production line in 2013. And how they sell will influence the order book for 2014.

[NanoDuke]

Yeah not sure. He was saying I'd have to put in a preference for another colour and hope they can do a swap between dealers.

Could be salesman shenanigans.

First dealership I went to just said "You'd know more than me, August release, come back in a month and we'd know some more info".
He didn't even want to take down my details.

Second dealership was more helpful, showed me the hardcopy brochure to clear up some questions I had, and took my details for an expression of interest.

Will try the third "local" dealership some time this week and see how I go sussing out info.

I'm not sure how I feel about the colour combinations:
Molten Orange
Race red
Frozen white
Performance blue
Panther black

Molten orange, being new I'm not sure. Not a fan of the Sunburst orange they have in te Falcons. The new Mars Red looks pretty sweet, though.
Red seems too feminine, plus it's not metallic.
Frozen white (while I LOVE the way it pops in the sunlight when clean) I think being a small car it might get "lost in the crowd".
Blue or black is probably the winner at the moment.

[Pursya]

Just read the latest Wheels magazine.
Now saying Oct/Nov for the Fiesta ST.

And Ford NZ are better than Ford Aus.
http://www.ford.co.nz/cars/all-new-f...ions/spec-data

Ouch!
http://www.ford.co.nz/cars/all-new-fiesta-st/price-list

As the Zetec is currently $21,290 drive away in Victoria on Fords website, and $25,990 on the NZ website it puts the ST at the 30K mark.

[NanoDuke]

Originally Posted by Pursya

Just read the latest Wheels magazine.
Now saying Oct/Nov for the Fiesta ST.

And Ford NZ are better than Ford Aus.
http://www.ford.co.nz/cars/all-new-f...ions/spec-data

Ouch!
http://www.ford.co.nz/cars/all-new-fiesta-st/price-list

As the Zetec is currently $21,290 drive away in Victoria on Fords website, and $25,990 on the NZ website it puts the ST at the 30K mark.

Yeah currently $35,000NZD = $29,417AUD.

My friendly salesman told me when he asked FoMoCo if the ST would come under $30k they girl on the other end of the line just laughed at him.

So yeah I'm thinking it's gonna come in at around that price. Maybe $28k RRP, but I doubt it.

My feeling of "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY" is somewhat waning now. Since release is so close I'll wait and see how the ST performs before I decide where to put my $30k towards.

[LeadFoot81]

I've been waiting for the ST since the WS was released, but I'll wait patiently just a little longer and avoid the initial rush, so I can cruise in and take my pick on my terms.

Props to everyone that gets in early though, can't wait for the "show us ya Fiesta ST" thread!

[DJM83]

Frozen white you say.
Heres Jamsports ST, excuse the pink


Theirs in on Eibachs though, and next to a 600bhp MKII RS Focus

[DJM83]

IMO i think the ST will be hard to beat value for money wise. Thats where Ford have won in the ST range IMO.

[NanoDuke]

Originally Posted by DJM83

IMO i think the ST will be hard to beat value for money wise. Thats where Ford have won in the ST range IMO.

You know, you're exactly right. I've been weighing up all the pros and cons in my head all week about what I want to purchase.

I decided to draw up a table comparing the Carsales RRP, power and weight figures. I guess I could've thrown in the torque figures, but they're harder to compare due to different peak ranges.

Here's the result:

(I estimated a price of $30,000 for the Fiesta, but even doing a "What-if" analysis, you'd need a RRP of $39,056 to reach a $/kg/kW of 4500 [just beneath the XR6])

Obviously the XR6T/G6ET has the best power to weight ratio BUT going back up the list you gain an increase in the power-to-weight per dollar figures.

So to sum up the Fiesta ST gives the best BANG for buck.

[trumpy73]

Originally Posted by NanoDuke

So to sum up the Fiesta ST gives the best BANG for buck.

It gives the best $/power/kg for your buck

It's fine if that's your criteria for purchasing a vehicle but (for me) there are a lot of other variables to consider other than simply power.

[NanoDuke]

What are the chances of being to upgrade to Focus leather Recaro seats in this?

[Pursya]

Originally Posted by NanoDuke

What are the chances of being to upgrade to Focus leather Recaro seats in this?

It already has recaro seats. Why do you want to swap?

[GoesLikeAZetec]

Its going to be a great little car. Be interesting how many people put up $30k+ for it though.

[NanoDuke]

Originally Posted by Pursya

It already has recaro seats. Why do you want to swap?

Because the fiesta gets cloth trim, not leather.

Cheers,
Duke

[El Jay]

Has anyone signed up to get notifications via the Ford website and received any correspondence at all?

[NanoDuke]

Originally Posted by El Jay

Has anyone signed up to get notifications via the Ford website and received any correspondence at all?

Signed up, still nada.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by NanoDuke

Because the fiesta gets cloth trim, not leather.

Cheers,
Duke

If we get ST2 it will be half leather, half cloth like the Focus if we get ST1 its cloth.

[Pursya]

A pic I saw of the left hand drive version had leather trimmed seats. Cloth inserts, leather sides.

[DJM83]

Mods are starting.

[Spinner77]

Maybe I'm missing something. But I find a more intuitive measure to be first power/kg

Fiesta ST
134 / 1163
= 0.115219260533104

G6ET
270 / 1789
= 0.1509223029625489

And then power per kg per dollar spent:

Fiesta ST
0.115219260533104 / 30000
= 3.8406420177701329e-06

G6ET
0.1509223029625489 / 56235
= 2.6837788381354835e-06

[NanoDuke]

Yes, that's valid, but I don't think it's more intuitive. It's easier to colour code whole numbers than deal with decimals and scientific notation.

It depends on how you want to think about it. kg/kW is saying how much weight is being shifted per kilowatt (therefore a smaller number is better), and then how much money is being spent to get that figure.

In your case bigger numbers are better, in my calcs, smaller numbers are better.

That's the beauty of mathematics. Both calculations are correct, just depends on what your preferred method is. I know I've seen some car reviews state power-to-weight figures in either kg/kW or kW/kg.

[Pursya]

Nerd alert!