Interstate vehicle being defected

**fordomatic** · 02-02-2015, 12:45 PM

Question, if i had a vehicle that is registered in QLD, can it be defected in another state?

Before anyone questions why, due to my job i am not required to change the registration or my licence to the state or territory i live in. As an example i have two cars registered in different states and a licence from a different state as well.

MDS69 · 02-02-2015, 12:49 PM

I would have thought yes especially if it is a safety issue (bald tyres, frayed seat belt, cracked windscreen etc) but not necessarily rust unless it was excessive.

**fordomatic** · 02-02-2015, 12:53 PM

Hmmm it's interesting, there is nothing wrong with either of my cars, but i do wonder when i am in my 4x4 as i have had issues in QLD before but it is actually legal in QLD.

I thought they might just ban it from driving in their state?

**Polyal** · 02-02-2015, 01:08 PM

I guess it depends on the defect.

As above most rules should be blanket across states, but some states will have their unique rules (bless them).

If that unique rule does not apply in the state its registered in then I would tell them to jump if your just passing through.

This is my biggest gripe with this country, every state has its qwerks it should all be standardized for better or worse.

OffRoadFalcon · 02-02-2015, 01:45 PM

I've often wondered about this too.......

For example, the big old 5-poster bull-bar....... legal in some states I believe (QLD at least??)...... and illegal in WA.

So could someone who come's from a state where they are legal, on a road trip, to WA, end up getting a sticker and asked to remove it?

Trevor 57 · 02-02-2015, 01:49 PM

Of course they can, if you are driving in other States you and your vehicle must comply with that States laws - pretty simple

On the positive side of the coin, may NSW learner's and P Platers are not aware that you can sit on 100/110 in Victoria as there is no law that says they need to stick to the NSW laws, you cannot get booked for exceeding 90 in Victoria

**DJM83** · 02-02-2015, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Of course they can, if you are driving in other States you and your vehicle must comply with that States laws - pretty simple

Kinda think that is BS in a way, what right on a state border? So you have a car that is legal in your state, cross the border your rooted.

burnz · 02-02-2015, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fordomatic

The fine isnt the issue so much. I was more interested to know what would actually happen about the defect. From what i have read they can fine you but they can't actually do anything about it being rectified. All they can do is ban you from driving in the state/territory you got defected in.

depends on the defect, they will tow/impound the car if serous enough at your cost..

and as for fines, I got pinched in vic... (in the mail job)
and had to pay as my state (nsw) would cancel my licence.

**GasoLane** · 02-02-2015, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Kinda think that is BS in a way, what right on a state border? So you have a car that is legal in your state, cross the border your rooted.

What Trev said is pretty spot on. I was driving a Vic registered B-Double with both trailers also reg in Vic.

I got booked in NSW for the 'Long Vehicle' sign on the second trailer 35cm too high.

As others have said if the 'defect' is serious enough they (Interstate Police/RMS etc ) can ground you until it's fixed.

**Charliewool** · 02-02-2015, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

What Trev said is pretty spot on. I was driving a Vic registered B-Double with both trailers also reg in Vic.

I got booked in NSW for the 'Long Vehicle' sign on the second trailer 35cm too high.

As others have said if the 'defect' is serious enough they (Interstate Police/RMS etc ) can ground you until it's fixed.

Geeesh.. Bloody truckies! Don't you realise how dangerous that was?
That illegal high signage could of contribited to enormous road carnage and trauma!!

**GasoLane** · 02-02-2015, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Charliewool

Geeesh.. Bloody truckies! Don't you realise how dangerous that was?
That illegal high signage could of contribited to enormous road carnage and trauma!!

Ah, that must explain Victoria's road toll.... It was legal there

Road Games · 02-02-2015, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

I got booked in NSW for the 'Long Vehicle' sign on the second trailer 35cm too high.

As others have said if the 'defect' is serious enough they (Interstate Police/RMS etc ) can ground you until it's fixed.

Surely a rookie mistake...

.. thank yaself lucky you didn't get tazered

Trevor 57 · 03-02-2015, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Kinda think that is BS in a way, what right on a state border? So you have a car that is legal in your state, cross the border your rooted.

I kinda agree, but we have States and each State makes their own legislation so we have to wear it

nuthin' fancy · 05-02-2015, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Kinda think that is BS in a way, what right on a state border? So you have a car that is legal in your state, cross the border your rooted.

Not BS, just the nature of having six different states forming the Federation that is Australia.

You can travel at 110km/h between Renmark and the Vic border, then you have to slow down to 100 km/h when you cross it.

scottyg938 · 02-02-2015, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Of course they can, if you are driving in other States you and your vehicle must comply with that States laws - pretty simple

On the positive side of the coin, may NSW learner's and P Platers are not aware that you can sit on 100/110 in Victoria as there is no law that says they need to stick to the NSW laws, you cannot get booked for exceeding 90 in Victoria

I'd have thought that they'd still have to stick to 90 because it's a license restriction not a road law, Just like if they had an auto only license they wouldn't be able to drive manual just because they crossed a border

Trevor 57 · 03-02-2015, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by scottyg938

I'd have thought that they'd still have to stick to 90 because it's a license restriction not a road law, Just like if they had an auto only license they wouldn't be able to drive manual just because they crossed a border

This is a common mistake people make, there is no law in Victoria that says they have to sit on 90 so the Police have no law with which to charge someone, the Victoria Police can only enforce Victorian law not NSW law

It is a requirement of their licencing process but it sits on road law not 'on their licence'

It is no different to what heavy vehicle drivers went through in NSW a few years ago, trucks and buses could do 100 in every State except NSW

pundit · 03-02-2015, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

On the positive side of the coin, may NSW learner's and P Platers are not aware that you can sit on 100/110 in Victoria as there is no law that says they need to stick to the NSW laws, you cannot get booked for exceeding 90 in Victoria

I am on my P's in SA and looked into this as a SA P plater can only do 100.. How is is, I have the follow the road rules of the state I am in but the conditions of my licence.. My licence conditions is anything over 100 is a breach of conditions and loss of licence :/ so I can't do 110 even though a vic p plater can in the same spot.. The odds of getting caught for it are slim to ** all but not worth it to shave a few mins :/

Trevor 57 · 03-02-2015, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pundit

I am on my P's in SA and looked into this as a SA P plater can only do 100.. How is is, I have the follow the road rules of the state I am in but the conditions of my licence.. My licence conditions is anything over 100 is a breach of conditions and loss of licence :/ so I can't do 110 even though a vic p plater can in the same spot.. The odds of getting caught for it are slim to ** all but not worth it to shave a few mins :/

my friend your licence is issued in S.A. that is where the conditions stay, I will say it again there is NOTHING in the Victorian law that says "oh S.A. drivers and NSW drivers can only do . . . . ." You will NOT get booked for doing 110 on our freeways (where 110 is the posted limit)

The limit for ALL drivers in, or who drive through Victoria, regardless of where their licence was issued is 100 / 110

However if you go through NSW where the limit is 90 then you will possibly get pulled over, you may have to explain why you are doing 100, you may get away with it in 90% of cases up there.

6 x 4 trailers do not need to be registered in Victoria, however they do in NSW so when I tow my trailer into NSW I have a Victorian 'Trailer Exempt' number plate on it and have never been pulled over about it

JAZSXY · 02-02-2015, 02:04 PM

From what I heard and this was years back, if you get a defect in a state not of the registered vehicle, you have to return to that state to have the defect cleared. But that was years ago and the laws / rules may have changed now.

Vesper Martini · 02-02-2015, 02:06 PM

Question: If you were defected in VIC, but had a NSW rego. Would you need to get it cleared at Vic roads? or could you take it to the NSW equivalent?

**fordomatic** · 02-02-2015, 02:07 PM

Ok so you get defected in that state, but how can they charge you? As an example, drive through NSW but next day in QLD. QLD transport don't care about a NSW defect.

Which is why I was wondering if they would just ban it from being driven in that state

**fordomatic** · 02-02-2015, 02:09 PM

If you don't go back into that state that you got the defect from they can't do anything about it, it's not registered in there state

Trevor 57 · 02-02-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fordomatic

If you don't go back into that state that you got the defect from they can't do anything about it, it's not registered in there state

if there is a fine attached they can still pursue it across borders

**fordomatic** · 02-02-2015, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

if there is a fine attached they can still pursue it across borders

The fine isnt the issue so much. I was more interested to know what would actually happen about the defect. From what i have read they can fine you but they can't actually do anything about it being rectified. All they can do is ban you from driving in the state/territory you got defected in.

Trevor 57 · 02-02-2015, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fordomatic

The fine isnt the issue so much. I was more interested to know what would actually happen about the defect. From what i have read they can fine you but they can't actually do anything about it being rectified. All they can do is ban you from driving in the state/territory you got defected in.

that would be a fair summation I reckon

devilcv8 · 03-02-2015, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fordomatic

If you don't go back into that state that you got the defect from they can't do anything about it, it's not registered in there state

I have first hand experience of an ACT issued defect on a nsw registered car.
I was parked at defence at Russel in the public car park and returned to a defect about a cracked windscreen. Note the crack was not in drivers vision and was not a defect in nsw. the defect stated it could be cleared in act or nsw.
I took the opportunity to see what happens if I ignore it.
It appeared I was a victim of mail theft as no reminders appeared but when the defect wasn't cleared it was passed to nsw rta.
Rta sent a letter, not received, giving me 21/28 days to clear the defect.
Rta sent a reminder stating rego would be cancelled if the defect wasn't cleared, not received.
Rta sent a letter stating your rego is now cancelled as of, a date 2 weeks earlier, as you have not cleared the defect. This one I did receive on a Friday.
Result was a scramble to get blue slip and get to rta on Saturday morning, and then discuss with the rta about keeping my personalized plates as the rules stated they had to be surrendered and couldn't be reused. Ended up keeping them, and ensured I told people who ever asked the question, that yes, interstate defects can and will follow you home.

XR5 · 04-02-2015, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by devilcv8

I have first hand experience of an ACT issued defect on a nsw registered car.
I was parked at defence at Russel in the public car park and returned to a defect about a cracked windscreen. Note the crack was not in drivers vision and was not a defect in nsw. the defect stated it could be cleared in act or nsw.
I took the opportunity to see what happens if I ignore it.
It appeared I was a victim of mail theft as no reminders appeared but when the defect wasn't cleared it was passed to nsw rta.
Rta sent a letter, not received, giving me 21/28 days to clear the defect.
Rta sent a reminder stating rego would be cancelled if the defect wasn't cleared, not received.
Rta sent a letter stating your rego is now cancelled as of, a date 2 weeks earlier, as you have not cleared the defect. This one I did receive on a Friday.
Result was a scramble to get blue slip and get to rta on Saturday morning, and then discuss with the rta about keeping my personalized plates as the rules stated they had to be surrendered and couldn't be reused. Ended up keeping them, and ensured I told people who ever asked the question, that yes, interstate defects can and will follow you home.

ACT and NSW cars are both registered under the RTA. We in NSW have access to all ACT rego details and vice versa, even though there are differing road rules such as the u turn at lights etc. In NSW, and I would assume in every other state, the crack in the windscreen, even if it is not impairing the vision of the driver, is a defect. The windscreen is a structural part of the car and any damage, ie the crack, to that part affects the integrity of the vehicle, hence making it a defect to which you can receive a fine or notice or both.

zilo · 04-02-2015, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by XR5

ACT and NSW cars are both registered under the RTA. We in NSW have access to all ACT rego details and vice versa, even though there are differing road rules such as the u turn at lights etc. In NSW, and I would assume in every other state, the crack in the windscreen, even if it is not impairing the vision of the driver, is a defect. The windscreen is a structural part of the car and any damage, ie the crack, to that part affects the integrity of the vehicle, hence making it a defect to which you can receive a fine or notice or both.

In Victoria it is unlikely that anyone is issued a notice for any road traffic issue that does not attract demerit points.

Police here don't like doing paperwork that doesn't add to their monthly..."tally"....and interstate drivers modifications or cracked windscreens etc don't add to it.

devilcv8 · 04-02-2015, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by XR5

ACT and NSW cars are both registered under the RTA. We in NSW have access to all ACT rego details and vice versa, even though there are differing road rules such as the u turn at lights etc. In NSW, and I would assume in every other state, the crack in the windscreen, even if it is not impairing the vision of the driver, is a defect. The windscreen is a structural part of the car and any damage, ie the crack, to that part affects the integrity of the vehicle, hence making it a defect to which you can receive a fine or notice or both.

The mechanic that provided the blue slip confirmed the crack wasn't a defect in nsw. It was centre of windscreen, down low, horizontal and less than 4" in length. So not in drivers vision.

blackf6 · 02-02-2015, 02:35 PM

Why even pull over to get defected? Ain't nobody got time for that.