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Old 07-11-2006, 11:12 AM   #1
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Default Yet ANOTHER fatal crash invloving a young driver.

Another Commodore into a pole. There was a group a while back who kept blaming the poles.
http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/re...YUlEPTc5Nzk%3D

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Old 07-11-2006, 11:18 AM   #2
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Damn those power poles they keep jumping out at unsuspecting P plate commodore drivers...
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:25 AM   #3
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a couple of disturbing statements there

"they were thrown from the vehicle on impact"
"the vehicle split apart"

Not good,
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:10 PM   #4
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a couple of disturbing statements there

"they were thrown from the vehicle on impact"
"the vehicle split apart"

Not good,
about the vehicle splitting thing VL commodores have a habit of doing it.....the welds in the back are not done properly......
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:22 AM   #5
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Car load of teenagers in a VL at 2:45am.... A recipe for disaster
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:38 AM   #6
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when will we learn?? unbelievable and you wonder why the police are so harsh on young drivers because of this small minority of morons!!!

its amazing how at high speed the only thing that is going to stop you when your out of control is a pole!
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:45 AM   #7
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Im with merlin those poles seem to jump out infront of so many p platers : i cant wait till im off my P's
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:47 AM   #8
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Here we go again....................
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:49 AM   #9
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I say send all the poles back to Poland! :

On a serious note. Formula One identified a long time ago that solid objects on the side of race tracks were asking for trouble. Although the speeds on public roads aren't as high as on a race track, the dangers or hitting solid objects such as trees or poles are just as real. I know that removing all of these objects isn't practicle but something must be done to reduce these types of accidents.

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Old 07-11-2006, 11:46 AM   #10
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I know exactly where that place is. The adjacent roads along there is where most trouble happens. and where one place. that i agree with where the unmarked cars sit.

This is just stupidity.

We need a place where people can get it out of there system and not on the public roads with others in the car.

Oh thats right the speedway is gone and Port Stephens Council canned the planned race track.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:29 PM   #11
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Oh thats right the speedway is gone and Port Stephens Council canned the planned race track.
what track did they can? I know there were plans for one at Raymond Terrace for many years but it never seemed to go through.

I was brought up going to the old Speedway from when it was first named Jerlideree Park and long before they allowed anything public on it. the demise of racing in Newcastle is my biggest disappointment. Not that I live there now but if I did ... lol
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:46 AM   #12
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See if he didnt have a high powered car he'd still be alive. Oh wait, he didn't
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:26 PM   #13
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See if he didnt have a high powered car he'd still be alive. Oh wait, he didn't
Demz do 12s frum factri bro!

Well what are they going to blame it on now? Jeez I don't know I could be right or but I might be wrong, could it possibly be because he was being an idiot?
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:50 AM   #14
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people will always make choices to suit themselves. don't feel sorry for the idiot behind the wheel...we are better off without people like that, feel sorry for the guys who had to clean up the mess.
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Hitting a fence or larger solid object is often better as it disperses the impact rather than concentrating on and maiming the structure of the car. Sure removing all poles is not really possible, however, could it possible to implement a contoured springy material of some sort that sits in front of the poles and helps deflect the direction the car takes? I know this would mean big bux for the government though.
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Only proves that performance cars, aren't the result of these fatal young driver accidents.(Was probably a stock Auto N/A Executive)

I wish these morons would learn, but nope. :
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:33 PM   #17
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It was a passenger that died. The driver will forever know they are responsible for it. If only it would serve as a lesson to others...
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Seriously there are just too many poles and trees to implement any sort of removal approach. Besides I'd rather these morons hit the pole than drive through the front of my house.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:50 PM   #19
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i attenced too many crashes like this over the years in the tow truck, the passengers die and the person driving like an idiot survives.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:57 PM   #20
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you could almost bet it was a turbo VL as well
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:08 PM   #21
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My thoughts always go to the dedicated people who have to front up to the scene and deal with the carnage. :newangel:

You will never convince me that these people are paid enough.

I know I was foolish in my younger days, more good luck than good management that I never had a serious stack.

If only we could get drivers to think about what they are putting at risk - their lives ! And what the families have to go through after...You wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy.
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Again education is the way to solve this.....
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Again education is the way to solve this.....

Well said Sledgehammer!!!!!!!!!
The only problem we have is getting the people in power to grow enough balls to target this REAL problem , instead of taking the easy way out by FOOLING the majority that they are attempting to curb the toll by targeting the easy money being speeding offences, of which , most are only by 6 or seven klms over as well as drink drivers! While I do agree that "DRUNK" drivers need to wake up to them selves the .05 limit is just another way of making easy money !
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=103268

Here's a article extract, from NineMSN.

Jesus he must've been really going, to split it in half, like that.

So yeah gregxr8, I think it was a VLT after seeing that pic.
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Education combined with IQ and attitude evaluation is the answer. Some people should not get a license until they grow up, full stop.
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=103268

Here's a article extract, from NineMSN.

Jesus he must've been really going, to split it in half, like that.

So yeah gregxr8, I think it was a VLT after seeing that pic.
yer those vl's seem to spilt in half in a hard hit seen a few when i worked at a wreckers a while back, all the spot welds let go on the floor pan.
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I knew a guy who had a 300KW twin turbo VL (some GTR motor). The car had drum brakes on the back and rust holes around the windscreen.
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Oh man, after seeing that pic, i've seen what has happenned to people's bodies in lesser accidents than that and it is utterly shocking, maybe, they could set a campaign on TV where they release these images yet sensor the dismembered parts so the viewer can only guess to the carnage. Will scare people into driving carefully.
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Oh man, after seeing that pic, i've seen what has happenned to people's bodies in lesser accidents than that and it is utterly shocking, maybe, they could set a campaign on TV where they release these images yet sensor the dismembered parts so the viewer can only guess to the carnage. Will scare people into driving carefully.
They tried that sort of thing with smoking with the pictures on the pack and on the TV. Doesn't stop a smoker. I still smoke and I reckon the pictures are dirty. My mate just goes over the picture in permament marker lol.

It's because people have the "it wont happen to me" attitude.
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Oh man, after seeing that pic, i've seen what has happenned to people's bodies in lesser accidents than that and it is utterly shocking, maybe, they could set a campaign on TV where they release these images yet sensor the dismembered parts so the viewer can only guess to the carnage. Will scare people into driving carefully.
You can see plenty of car accident victims pics here www.ogrish.com
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