AIRBAGS ? had a crash and airbags didnt go off

GRNKPR · 04-06-2007, 06:30 PM

last night i had a pretty big crash ,and the nore i thought about it i couldnt work out why the airbags didnt go off.I hit a guard rail and parked car at or between 85 and 95 kmh ,What speed or force should ve set them off and if they didnt go off at that speed then when would they have ????????????????

sfr rob · 04-06-2007, 06:51 PM

what car, and where are the air bags located.
hey, did it hurt?

GRNKPR · 04-06-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sfr rob

what car, and where are the air bags located.
hey, did it hurt?

Sorry BA XR 8 ute and suprisingly not airbag in steering wheel

sfr rob · 04-06-2007, 07:02 PM

****, really the bags didn't deploy? that doesn't sound right, if you were doing 60+ and hit something front on, you would hope the bags deploy no?
Got any photos of the damage, I know that the impact has to reach a certain point before the activating things are squashed so maybe you didn't hit them in the right spot or something?

chevypower · 04-06-2007, 07:03 PM

did your head hit the steering wheel? If it did, then there is a problem. If not, did you just want them to go off for the hell of it? Aparently they are not like a nice soft pillow, they are there to avoid serious head injuries

GRNKPR · 04-06-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

did your head hit the steering wheel? If it did, then there is a problem. If not, did you just want them to go off for the hell of it? Aparently they are not like a nice soft pillow, they are there to avoid serious head injuries

how much faster do you have to go ??????the airbag sensor was all crushed up in the radiator,i will get pics in a couple of days .The car is off to hospital

ratter · 04-06-2007, 07:07 PM

Was the inpact front on ? A partial side impact may not activate the air bags.

As mentioned they should only go off in a situation that would likely cause serious injury and quite often an exploding air bag can do other damage or injury.

XCSEDAN · 04-06-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

Aparently they are not like a nice soft pillow, they are there to avoid serious head injuries

i will tell you that is untrue compared to what it feels like wacking your head on something else.
they inflate and deflate within half a second.

and to answer your question they should have deployed unless the airbag sensors worked out that the car wasnt slowing down fast enough for them to deploy.

GRNKPR · 04-06-2007, 07:09 PM

it was front on allright ,would ve got a perfect 100 if there was a target on the rear of the other car

JPFS1 · 04-06-2007, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GRNKPR

it was front on allright ,would ve got a perfect 100 if there was a target on the rear of the other car

GRNKPR

Can you please PM me the description of collision(s) in detail. Pics when you get them would be good too.

sfr rob · 04-06-2007, 07:17 PM

hahaha, mate I cant believe that... I wouldn't be happy if they didn't go off.
Put it this way, my friends sister wrote her BA xr8 ute off a few months ago, lost it coming out of a street in the wet, up the gutter, through a small shrub and into the brick fence ( probably traveling up to 50KMH ) air bags were deployed and punched her in the nose. So I don't understand how yours didn't do the same.???

GRNKPR · 04-06-2007, 07:22 PM

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hahaha, mate I cant believe that... I wouldn't be happy if they didn't go off.
Put it this way, my friends sister wrote her BA xr8 ute off a few months ago, lost it coming out of a street in the wet, up the gutter, through a small shrub and into the brick fence ( probably traveling up to 50KMH ) air bags were deployed and punched her in the nose. So I don't understand how yours didn't do the same.???

why i am concerend if they fix it what happens next time if they are needed and they dont work i have lost a little confidence in the car

pecker73 · 04-06-2007, 07:29 PM

GRNKPR... What are you doing.... Not another case of being passed by a rear wheel ?

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You o.k ?

Car fixable or off to Falcon ute heaven ?

Those pesky air-bags are fickle.... I'll tell you a story about a shopping trolley and the BF front air bags...

GRNKPR · 04-06-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pecker73

GRNKPR... What are you doing.... Not another case of being passed by a rear wheel ?

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You o.k ?

Car fixable or off to Falcon ute heaven ?

Those pesky air-bags are fickle.... I'll tell you a story about a shopping trolley and the BF front air bags...

yeah hasnt been a good two weeks bit im fine racecar fine but BA well ,not looking the best and im FINE little sore but nothing outta control

B2f i was going over 30 ks as to not full front impact radiator firmly against engine ?steering wheel and seat no change at all car all stock.Rang Ford to query them they said its in the hands of insurance they can sought it out .Rang insurance company to let them know my concern they said they didnt make the car !!!!!!!!

next couple o days it will all get clearer

Bossxr8 ithink you are missing the point

Redef no lights at all on now or before

redxr347 yeah im ok

Bossxr8 · 05-06-2007, 05:52 PM

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Bossxr8 ithink you are missing the point

How am I missing the point, if you walked away with nothing but a sore neck the airbag was worthless to you. It didn't need to save you from hitting the steering wheel. Manufacturers do enough testing to know at what point the airbags should be deployed and your minimal injuries proves them correct.

Yes, you might assume they would deploy but from my experience they only go off in really big impacts where the occupants usually don't walk away.

RG · 04-06-2007, 07:30 PM

Do you believe that you are more injured than you would have been had the airbags deployed? If not then that's your reason, the car decided that they were of no benefit to you going off. Hope you are OK.

redef · 04-06-2007, 07:53 PM

yeah i would get that ****** checked might be faulty airbag. was the airbag light on after the crash?? if your still not sure when you get it back stack it again but harder this time lol

Bossxr8 · 04-06-2007, 08:06 PM

If you walked away then it didn't need to go off.

b2tf · 04-06-2007, 08:12 PM

The airbags only arm once you're travelling over 30kms/hr, obviously thats not the problem in this case but it explains why they dont always go off.

As has been said, if its not a full on front impact it can sometimes not be enough to trigger them, but from what youre saying there is no reason they shouldnt have. Have you changed a steering wheel or unplugged the seats?

Got me stuffed but I'd be wanting to know why they didnt go off too.

LUXO_8 · 04-06-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

If you walked away then it didn't need to go off.

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...highlight=audi

really?

GRNKPR · 04-06-2007, 08:33 PM

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http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...highlight=audi

really?

wasnt as bad as that but not a lot on front will be much good !!!!!

Bossxr8 · 05-06-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MADNC_8

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...highlight=audi

really?

Thats an odd one. Even though he walked away it would have been a massive impact that would have hit with such massive force it would have set all the airbags off. Total different scenario to the one mentioned above. In theory the Audi driver should be dead, and through sheer luck survived. If the point of impact was approx. 50cm further towards the front of the car the tree would have gone straight through the seat and him.

Aeron · 04-06-2007, 08:23 PM

The airbag sensors (accelerometer) work off a rate of deceleration. If the car that you ran up the back of absorbs a lot of the impact then your car may not have decelerated at a dangerous rate, and would not set the airbag off.

GRNKPR · 04-06-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeron

The airbag sensors (accelerometer) work off a rate of deceleration. If the car that you ran up the back of absorbs a lot of the impact then your car may not have decelerated at a dangerous rate, and would not set the airbag off.

90 ks to a stop i hope thats not too dangerous

Aeron · 04-06-2007, 08:52 PM

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90 ks to a stop i hope thats not too dangerous

If you did 90Km/h to a stop you'd be dead or your steering wheel would be stuck to your face.
You said, "(you hit a) guard rail and parked car at or between 85 and 95 kmh". A few questions. What car did you hit? Were you doing 85 - 95Km/h and hit the car without braking? Or were you doing, say, 100Km/h and decelerated to 85 – 95Km/h when you impacted? Also, did the impact trigger the inertia switch?

GRNKPR · 04-06-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeron

If you did 90Km/h to a stop you'd be dead or your steering wheel would be stuck to your face.
You said, "(you hit a) guard rail and parked car at or between 85 and 95 kmh". A few questions. What car did you hit? Were you doing 85 - 95Km/h and hit the car without braking? Or were you doing, say, 100Km/h and decelerated to 85 – 95Km/h when you impacted? Also, did the impact trigger the inertia switch?

hit a toyota seca 85 to 90 and hit the car without braking

philstoj · 04-06-2007, 08:57 PM

Damn phil!!, good to hear that your ok, bugger the car mate, as long as your good.

Will catch up soon.

Nikked · 04-06-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeron

The airbag sensors (accelerometer) work off a rate of deceleration. If the car that you ran up the back of absorbs a lot of the impact then your car may not have decelerated at a dangerous rate, and would not set the airbag off.

Thats is true.

There is not alot know by the general public about how an airbag works...

80km/h into a solid wall has more chance of triggering them then a 80km/h impact with a "soft" movable object.

GRNKPR · 04-06-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikk O'lass

Thats is true.

There is not alot know by the general public about how an airbag works...

80km/h into a solid wall has more chance of triggering them then a 80km/h impact with a "soft" movable object.

60 ks isnt around 90 ks ?????????

Nikked · 04-06-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GRNKPR

60 ks isnt around 90 ks ?????????

that was an opps and an Edit...and just an example...