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SA police targeting traffic offences
AAP, 28/06/07





South Australian police, including detectives, have been directed to pull over more motorists in a state-wide crackdown on traffic offences.

Every uniformed police officer has been told to make at least 70 traffic stops a year from July, a rise of 20 stops from last year.

Assistant police commissioner Grant Stevens said every police officer, including detectives and specialised crime investigators, would be expected to pull over at least one more driver every two weeks for road safety offences.

Mr Stevens denied the new benchmarks were aimed to raise revenue for the government, saying the crackdown was a police-driven decision designed to lower the road toll.

"I think it is a brave person that says someone who is the victim of a murder or a serious assault is more important than someone who is seriously injured or killed in a motor vehicle crash," Mr Stevens told ABC radio.

"We got to remember that this is an epidemic that we are dealing with in terms of the number of people who are being seriously injured or killed on our roads.

"We need to be doing some fairly innovative things if we are going to reduce the road toll even further."


Detectives can now pick you up for speeding !!! Don't tell Beattie !!!!

[XCSEDAN]

ummm yeah that sounds fair... NOT
that just means cops are under pressure to pull over more people doesnt it?

[JC]

Originally Posted by XCSEDAN

ummm yeah that sounds fair... NOT
that just means cops are under pressure to pull over more people doesnt it?

But pull over doesn't mean book. Official warnings are permitted.

[Cruise]

Ive got a crazy idea,
now now wait for it this gonna be great, dont want to get done speeding?




Then DONT SPEED!!!


this has been a public service announcement

[DOC]

Originally Posted by Cruise Control

Ive got a crazy idea,
now now wait for it this gonna be great, dont want to get done speeding?
Then DONT SPEED!!!
this has been a public service announcement

That' a god idea, here's another. As of today speeding fines have been raised by another 20% here, with no reference to saftey one bit, the powers to be need to raise their hand and clearly state that speeding fines raise money not save lives, because their slant is the same as your simply don't speed.

Well with a good guess that 75% or more people booked are normal mums n dads caught in the rut drivig to work and are probably a few k's over but in no way out there driving stupid.

Now here's something new for you, with the extra 20% update in fines ( the second rise in recent times in the name of saftey ) will see more average mums and dads struggling to pay these fines and in their petty undercover cry of saving lives may in fact force more accidents as people trying to pay for these so called life saving fines are now un able to afford say a brake repair or perhaps new tyres, increasing the risk of an accident

But i suppose we need not worry about that as we now have extra patrols to catch these people out and yes fine them even more, a real good ploy will be to place these patrols 500m before a speed camera in the morning rush, hold people up, make them late for work, then nab them driving dangerous down the road at 2K over the limit and fine them again.

[XR06T]

Originally Posted by Cruise Control

Ive got a crazy idea,
now now wait for it this gonna be great, dont want to get done speeding?




Then DONT SPEED!!!


this has been a public service announcement

i posted this in another thread, and it'll fit in nicely here too i think

i speed every trip in a car i'd say. am i stupid because of this? i think not.

i can post pictures of every road i drive on to work and their speed limits and you can see for yourself what i am on about. a dead straight road, dual carriagway, probably 4 kms long, speed limit 80. no intersections on this road, but you can bet your bottom dollar that there is one speed camera on it a week. turn off that street onto a single lane each way road, with large trees lining each side of the road AND DRIVEWAYS, speed limit 90 (not a misprint).

i drive at what i see as a safe limit to the conditions. whether that be the speed limit or not, i dont care. that is why i have a radar detector (they are legal here)

the whole 'we need to increase fines to stop the road toll' is complete bs.

[MrFlibbles]

they deny its revenue raising! ha ha as if it isnt...

[Hunter]

Epidemic??? Far out the number of roads deaths is the lowest its been for over 50 years and we have more drivers ever year yet its an epidemic? These pollies obviously don't read the statistics in the reports they're given!

As an interesting tidbit, the national road toll was at its highest in the mid 70s, and has never gotten anywhere near that level since. Epidemic my ****.

[MeLLy]

Hmmmm...
What is the road toll compared to last years?....revenue raising it is...whether they say its not they have a quota & its been revealed before so i dont know why they just dont come out and say it, do they think they will lose votes or something??...They focus on p platers,hoon drivers & speeding because they have to make out like they are doing something so no1 complains.
Do they expect to suddenly drop the road toll if more cops are out their picking on ppl and nabbing ppl for speeding...
I agree with what someone said on a different thread about P platers and the road toll, if they cared so much they should do drive training courses not make the number of years your on your p's go up and make it so much difficult to aquire them and your full license, they are going to find an epidemic of bogan ppl who cannot afford the outrageous prices of licenses and driving lessons turn to driving without one.They should really rethink this one,I'm still peeved that the majority of drivers who vote are on their full licenses & the kids who dont get to vote just deal with whats given out.I still think we should be able to vote on what road laws and tactics they bring in, not just what party we want to run.
The price of my P lesson and test was $60 in 2005 plus 20 for my actual license. My friend is going for hers next week its costing her 220 all up and then she goes to motor reg and pays another 20 or 40 bucks to have her picture taken and put on some plastic.
The system is being stretched far beyond its limits its gaining laughable status.

[kyro_02]

thankfully i'm not living in SA .. instead .. vic.. (wait, maybe i'm far worse off?)

either way, sounds like they're filling your heads in with BS.

[Riksta]

In my ten years of driving I've only ever been pulled over by the police twice, once was a couple of years back I'd let my speed get up a bit on the South Eastern Freeway heading to Mt Gambier an a downhill run, and the other was when I was young and stupid, turning left onto a road in some backstreets, and I let the wheels of my Colt squeal a little, unfortunately coming out the street further down was a cop who stopped, I could tell he was waiting for me so I disappeared down the street he turned out of and was gonna go down a few streets then head home, but he came up behind me and followed me for five minutes, when I put the indicator on for my driveway he flashed me and pulled me up. I got off with a "don't do it again".

I don't really see the big deal about them increasing the amount of people they pull over, as long as you drive safe and obey the rules you should be alright.

[sgt_doofey]

Originally Posted by Riksta

I don't really see the big deal about them increasing the amount of people they pull over, as long as you drive safe and obey the rules you should be alright.

+1

Might take some of the idiots off the road that I constantly see when driving through Elizabeth/Salisbury/Munno Para/Smithfield on Main North Road.

Never been pulled over by the cops, except for when I was young and stupid for doing a stupid thing.

[VSSII]

Originally Posted by sgt_doofey

+1

Might take some of the idiots off the road that I constantly see when driving through Elizabeth/Salisbury/Munno Para/Smithfield on Main North Road.

Never been pulled over by the cops, except for when I was young and stupid for doing a stupid thing.

And there's lots of young motorists on this site. So you're gonna get a lop sided opinion or two! I was young, fooled around, got caught more than once, grew up, moved on. Some find it a little harder.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by VSSII

And there's lots of young motorists on this site. So you're gonna get a lop sided opinion or two! I was young, fooled around, got caught more than once, grew up, moved on. Some find it a little harder.

I'm 25 (well soon I will be) and I've never been pulled over in 9 years of driving. And no I don't drive like miss daisy either. I've had several close calls, however. Many times I've um made some noises, possibly from the wheels and all of a sudden there's a cop car around the corner :

[sexr6tasy]

Originally Posted by sgt_doofey

+1

Might take some of the idiots off the road that I constantly see when driving through Elizabeth/Salisbury/Munno Para/Smithfield on Main North Road.

Never been pulled over by the cops, except for when I was young and stupid for doing a stupid thing.

Might take some of the fully licensed and old people who cant drive for **** off the road as well.

[ED Classic]

Originally Posted by sexr6tasy

Might take some of the fully licensed and old people who cant drive for **** off the road as well.

Lol exactly...The ones that say Ive never had an accident..and they leave piles of smashed cars behind them wherever they go

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by sexr6tasy

Might take some of the fully licensed and old people who cant drive for **** off the road as well.

Here, here!!!

[Tuddy200]

Originally Posted by sexr6tasy

Might take some of the fully licensed and old people who cant drive for **** off the road as well.

Most sensible thing said in this whole topic.

Real Criminals? - You're either a criminal or not in the judges eyes.

[RosscoeXC]

I am 48 and have been driving for 30 years, and have lived in nearly every state in Australia (except WA and TAS). I ride a motorcycle every day to work and an XA Fairmont and a Land Rover on the weekends and have driven hundreds of thousands of kms, I am SA born and bred from the Glenelg area and now live in Queensland, i guess I am one of those old people SEXR6TASY is talking about, just remember mate that being young does not necessarily make you the best driver. I have had one accident in the car and two on a bike. Both the bike accidents were my fault but the car was by a young person trying to do a burn out and cut across three lanes of traffic and took me out, so being stupid or untalented behind the wheel is not just an old person problem, personally I think the young people are better drivers than I was all those years ago but being "OLD" does not necessarily make us bad.

[4.9 EF Futura]

I was under the impression that the increased quota was intended to allow more unroadworthy vehicles to be defected. How much revenue this generates, i am unsure.

We've had fair lax policing of the roads for the past decade or so... theyve really ramped it up the last few years.

Ive been getting pulled over prob once per month this year.

[KBBossedXR]

How about they get more serious on all those Aboriginals that are continualy stealing our cars and going on high speed chases crashing in to innocent people and sometimes killing them and they walk away from the wreck with a couple of scratches. The cops get on the news ranting and raving yet the Aboriginal is out on Bail for the 5th, 10th, even 20th time i heard once. Now if i was in charge it would be Middle Eastern Ruling you steal a car, you lose a hand, you crash thar car, you loose both hands, you kill a innocent person in that crash, the family has first choice of what they want to do to him/her (cause of death), otherwise we take them out into the gulf and feed them to the Great Whites.
If you think this is over the top go and speak to one of the families that are greiving for there lost member.
Just to clear up a point i have worked and played footy with some great Aboriginals so this is not an attack on them just this specific group we keep on hearing about.

[ON_DUBS]

whoah i can see this thread going up in flames after that one

[blueoval]

This makes me sick

[sexr6tasy]

You will always get degenerates in society no matter what background they are but a justice system that takes and eye for an eye to me would be a bad thing what about accidental murders say you accidentally lose control of your car? or self defense against somebody trying to kill you theres many variables i agree that there should be tougher laws and sentencing tho because its becoming quite a joke what people are getting these days.

[KBBossedXR]

Originally Posted by sexr6tasy

You will always get degenerates in society no matter what background they are but a justice system that takes and eye for an eye to me would be a bad thing what about accidental murders say you accidentally lose control of your car? or self defense against somebody trying to kill you theres many variables i agree that there should be tougher laws and sentencing tho because its becoming quite a joke what people are getting these days.

Sorry bro you cant accidently loose control of your car in a high speed police chase.
Sorry bro there is no such thing as an accidental murder its either self defence or your the killer.
If we had more stricter rules on the criminals there wouldnt be as many still on our streets.
If you new you couldnt plead insanity, and you were going to face extreme punishment then some will think twice and once the word and proof gets out there that criminals only have one hand or are facing Death by Great White things will change thats for sure.

[sexr6tasy]

Originally Posted by stroked67

Sorry bro you cant accidently loose control of your car in a high speed police chase.
Sorry bro there is no such thing as an accidental murder its either self defence or your the killer.
If we had more stricter rules on the criminals there wouldnt be as many still on our streets.
If you new you couldnt plead insanity, and you were going to face extreme punishment then some will think twice and once the word and proof gets out there that criminals only have one hand or are facing Death by Great White things will change thats for sure.

Actually accidental deaths occur all the time so do accidental murders if your driving along at the speed limit and somebody runs out in front of your car and you hit them and kill them i fail to see how your automatically a killer and deserve to die as well there are variables like i said its not as simple as an eye for an eye and i wasn't comparing accidentally losing control of your vehicle to a high speed chase.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by stroked67

Sorry bro you cant accidently loose control of your car in a high speed police chase.
Sorry bro there is no such thing as an accidental murder its either self defence or your the killer.
If we had more stricter rules on the criminals there wouldnt be as many still on our streets.
If you new you couldnt plead insanity, and you were going to face extreme punishment then some will think twice and once the word and proof gets out there that criminals only have one hand or are facing Death by Great White things will change thats for sure.

gotta love your point of view!
kill a man your a murderer.
kill a million your george bush.

[KBBossedXR]

Originally Posted by burnz

gotta love your point of view!
kill a man your a murderer.
kill a million your george bush.

You wouldnt want to know what i would like to do with George Bush and John Howard, If i fed them to the Great Whites they would be attached to a rope so it would be a slow limb by limb death, but i reckon i could come up with something worse than that.

[DOC]

I don't see any real stress but i would stop short at calling it an epidemic, did the road toll suddenly triple over the last few years ? I do't think so.

Perhaps they should have said Our past measures were unsuccesful so now were changing tack, and in saying that where does the speed camera saves lives arguement fall into it ? if it's an epidemic then surley then these have not worked and therefore are simply raising money as their effect has no outcome on the road toll.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Why stresss, these guys are too busy chasing real criminals and are above highway patrol matters, they will do their quota but dont expect them to get any harder, they really arent interested and most of the break the road rules neways..