Troy Critchley files for bankrupcy...

Neeek · 15-09-2007, 10:48 AM

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/dea...277025955.html

Poor bugger. $120m in lawsuits being filed against him. Can't possibly imagine how he feels...

muppet · 15-09-2007, 11:06 AM

Shouldn't they be suing the organizers of the event for not providing adequate safety measures . Stupid people that stand on the side of the road while cars do burnouts don't deserve the right to sue anyone . They all put themselves in danger and now they want to blame someone else for their stupidity .

MAFIA · 15-09-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by muppet

Shouldn't they be suing the organizers of the event for not providing adequate safety measures . Stupid people that stand on the side of the road while cars do burnouts don't deserve the right to sue anyone . They all put themselves in danger and now they want to blame someone else for their stupidity .

I totally agree with you on that. Organizers should take the biggest blame for this but people won't blame them as it charity event so they feel sorry for them instead. Troy should also known better anyway with a rich drag racing background.

US people alway look at money as an alternative when life taken away from them. Life such a pity.

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Green X · 15-09-2007, 11:36 AM

What!! How do you sue a race driver when his car looses control, Like if you want to stand Track side you have to relies there is a chance thus a small one you may not be going home at the end of the day.

Typical of people today, always looking to shift the blame and make money wile doing it , How you even mount a case is beyond me.

The Monty · 15-09-2007, 11:47 AM

That is so so wrong. Id donate him $10 to get back on his feet. Thats my 6 pack for the week.
You cant sue the driver, sue the organisers.

**DJM83** · 15-09-2007, 12:21 PM

Poor bugger feel for him, been following this abit. They should be suing the organisers of the event, the people that go to watch these events enter at their own risk. Organisers should have provided better safety standards.

asusdragon · 15-09-2007, 01:07 PM

thats is pretty s***, it is a gerenal rule you go to a motor event well, any event that has dagerous driving you should expect something to go wrong. yeah i think the organisers should have done a better job, fell real sorry for the guy, if things keep going like this there be no entertainment ppl will be too afraid of getting sued for something

uranium_death · 15-09-2007, 01:10 PM

As stated, if people choose to stand track-side where there are no barriers, they cannot complain if they are hit.

Troy didn't mean it, but rather than people not accepting the fact that he is a human being (and therefore will make mistakes at times), people just want to make money.

It is downright pathetic. DOodie happens and as sad as the event was, responsibility must be placed on a) the organisers and b) the spectators

RIPGMH · 15-09-2007, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by uranium_death

As stated, if people choose to stand track-side where there are no barriers, they cannot complain if they are hit.

Troy didn't mean it, but rather than people not accepting the fact that he is a human being (and therefore will make mistakes at times), people just want to make money.

It is downright pathetic. DOodie happens and as sad as the event was, responsibility must be placed on a) the organisers and b) the spectators

If the driver was in an 89' corolla would everyone be so understanding? The people that died had trust in the organisers and the drivers who were supposed to be "professionals" Regardless of if Troy meant it or not he made a mistake and he like any of us in our careers can now be held liable for it. If you go to an airshow should you expect a plane to crash into you?

Van D · 15-09-2007, 11:43 PM

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The people that died had trust in the organisers and the drivers who were supposed to be "professionals" Regardless of if Troy meant it or not he made a mistake and he like any of us in our careers can now be held liable for it. If you go to an airshow should you expect a plane to crash into you?

Whilst I see/acknowledge your point (and rodderz), I personally think an air show is a lot different. There ARE safety measure at an air show and whilst I wouldn't expect a plane to crash into me, I definitely know it's possible. The planes at an air show are not flying past you only metres away with a 'she'll be right' mentality.

These people knew cars can lose control (if they didn't they're idiots) and just like the driver should have said 'no, this isn't safe', the people in the crowd should have a mind to think for themselves as well.

RIPGMH · 15-09-2007, 11:59 PM

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Whilst I see/acknowledge your point (and rodderz), I personally think an air show is a lot different. There ARE safety measure at an air show and whilst I wouldn't expect a plane to crash into me, I definitely know it's possible. The planes at an air show are not flying past you only metres away with a 'she'll be right' mentality.

These people knew cars can lose control (if they didn't they're idiots) and just like the driver should have said 'no, this isn't safe', the people in the crowd should have a mind to think for themselves as well.

I think those most responsible for the "she'll be right" mentality are the event organisers and Troy himself. I'll remind you there were children in the crowd that perhaps didn't have the sense to think of potential consequences. We live in an age of liability and as much as people like to recount the old days, I think that if one person's life is saved by the ever looming threat of legal action then it is all worth it.

Van D · 16-09-2007, 12:16 AM

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I think those most responsible for the "she'll be right" mentality are the event organisers and Troy himself. I'll remind you there were children in the crowd that perhaps didn't have the sense to think of potential consequences. We live in an age of liability and as much as people like to recount the old days, I think that if one person's life is saved by the ever looming threat of legal action then it is all worth it.

I agree the mentality was mainly Troy's and the organisers, won't deny that.

However, what I do find disturbing, is that parents will let their kids stand there. From what I remember, a kid as young as 5 was injured. What sort of parent puts their child in that dangerous environment? As you said, young kids don't have the mind to know the consequences. I would have thought that the 15 and 17 year olds that were unfortunately killed would have known better though?

4Vman · 15-09-2007, 01:52 PM

When this first happened there was a very strong feeling that Troy should have known better.... i.e if he felt there wasnt adequate safety barriers or if he saw that people were too close to the track he shouldn't have driven.
Remember this was a staged demonstration at a charity event at a public venue, not a race meeting at a regulation race track where normal track barriers and safety policies apply.
Id say unfortunatly liability will be spread evenly between organisers and Troy.
Remember were talking the US here, where people sue anyone for anything.
Unfortunatly give it 5 years and we'll be the same...
I can see a day when motorists will sue the govt for damage as a result of loosing control and hitting road side obsticles.....

BENT_8 · 15-09-2007, 02:12 PM

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When this first happened there was a very strong feeling that Troy should have known better.... i.e if he felt there wasnt adequate safety barriers or if he saw that people were too close to the track he shouldn't have driven.
Remember this was a staged demonstration at a charity event at a public venue, not a race meeting at a regulation race track where normal track barriers and safety policies apply.
Id say unfortunatly liability will be spread evenly between organisers and Troy.
Remember were talking the US here, where people sue anyone for anything.
Unfortunatly give it 5 years and we'll be the same...
I can see a day when motorists will sue the govt for damage as a result of loosing control and hitting road side obsticles.....

Right on all points, this guy has been drag racing long enough and seen enough mishaps to know you dont unleash all that HP in a confined space with no safety barriers.
He was negligent in my mind.

Wokkas · 15-09-2007, 10:55 PM

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Right on all points, this guy has been drag racing long enough and seen enough mishaps to know you dont unleash all that HP in a confined space with no safety barriers.
He was negligent in my mind.

I agree. 6 people are now dead!!! Experience should have told him: "no mate- be carefull"........

S3SR · 15-09-2007, 06:52 PM

some useless but interesting stuff

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In a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, your assets (minus those exempted by your state) are liquidated and given to creditors, and many of your remaining debts are cancelled, giving you what's known as a "fresh start." In 2004, over 1.1 million people filed for Chapter 7, accounting for roughly 72 percent of non-business bankruptcies.

Since many Chapter 7 filers don't have assets that qualify for liquidation, credit card companies and other creditors sometimes get nothing.

i guess its better than a chapter 13 bankruptcy, but all he has to deal with now is the fact that some people died from his and everyone involved's actions....which is worse than any amount of money in my books

i agree he should have known better, but so should everyone else that was there.... i dont think anyone expected it too happen...so i wont pass judgement

best of luck to him

Van D · 15-09-2007, 11:16 PM

Whilst I do think he should have thought through doing the event a bit better, the major problem I have is the family's who sue for such amounts.

I mean, 24 million?? It absolutely disgusts me to no end that they'd do that, in a way which words fail me. They see the death of a family member as an opportunity to getting rich quickly.

If I were to pass on in a similar way, there is NO way i'd want my family filing against the driver, especially for that amount. I would in fact (if I knew) be insulted that my family would take advantage of my death for easy money!

In my eyes there were three groups/people at fault. Organisers, drivers AND crowd. I could see why the drivers wanted to do it for the charity part, but they should have known better. The organisers DEFINITELY should have known better and should not have let it run in that way, and the audience were stupid to stand right on the bloody road and expect to be safe.

rodderz · 15-09-2007, 11:18 PM

It was a fair burnout he did on the day, while he wasnt responsible for the safety he was responsible for the car and what he did with it.

It was an accident but yanks are gold diggers when it comes to lawsuits

mik · 15-09-2007, 11:44 PM

an error in judgement that will haunt the driver and families forever, very sad ......i googled and found a piccy of the car.
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?i...3Doff%26sa%3DG

Racecraft · 16-09-2007, 02:19 AM

I'd like to add that the car wouldn't pull a burnout, it would rip a power skid, a HUGe difference in my eyes.. Troy would of known that and I guess that is where some of the responsibilty lies.

SPK-250 · 16-09-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Neeek

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/dea...277025955.html

Poor bugger. $120m in lawsuits being filed against him. Can't possibly imagine how he feels...

Only in America! Thats why i dont want to live there. Fart towards someone and they will probably sue you! and that is a serious statement.

uranium_death · 16-09-2007, 08:31 PM

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Only in America! Thats why i dont want to live there. Fart towards someone and they will probably sue you! and that is a serious statement.

Good thing I don't have many assets, or I would be in big trouble.

SPK-250 · 16-09-2007, 08:56 PM

LOL.

I mean come on! as other people have said, $24 million. Thats just bulls**t!!

Somebody else also pointed out that the f***wits are using a family members death as a get-rich-quick scheem. Some of these jerks need a head check!!

RIPGMH · 16-09-2007, 09:03 PM

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LOL.

I mean come on! as other people have said, $24 million. Thats just bulls**t!!

Somebody else also pointed out that the f***wits are using a family members death as a get-rich-quick scheem. Some of these jerks need a head check!!

I don't think that you can put a price on a loved ones life, but I would want the persons responsible for their death to pay as much as legally permissible.

SPK-250 · 16-09-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RIPGMH

I don't think that you can put a price on a loved ones life, but I would want the persons responsible for their death to pay as much as legally permissible.

Agreed! but $24 mil??

Agent86 · 16-09-2007, 11:39 PM

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Agreed! but $24 mil??

On the same point, its not like he went out with the intention of injuring or killing anyone. and thats where the whole lawsuit issues have jumped the rails. Ok there needs to be consequences, but ffs, did he line them up? Yes he and the organisers should have said this isnt safe, just as the people over 16 ( their legal driving age ) should have known. the younger ones, where were their parents/guardians? they didnt do their job of looking after them.

I have 2 little ones, and its not hard to keep the out of the 'line of fire' of danger. If it looks dangerous, it probably is.

Drag racing is a HUGE sport in the US and im sure most people would have an idea of what its about. same as nascar.

The problem is the organisers probably dont want responsibility, troy is looking to take whatever his share is, but the parents are NOT. they are pointing the finger and demanding money.

why is this world always so money hungry? will money bring the lost ones back? or even ease the suffering? no. it will only cause others to be destroyed and that i feel is pointless.

we need perspective in this world and REAL punishments, not this greed inflated BS.

no i havent lost anyone, but i NEARLY HAVE. and i wouldnt have blamed the other party ( even though they were speeding ).

4Vman · 17-09-2007, 08:03 AM

Regarding the $ sums mentioned you have to remember most figures floated are for the purpose of negotiation.. i.e: they want 10 mill but the party offers 3 mill so they settly for 5 mill kind of thing.
Also there is usually some kind of insurance protection to cover it..
Im sure all involved have some kind of public liability insurance which will cover most of this.

||| · 17-09-2007, 10:58 AM

they're suing for so much because they want to punish the people responsible. if someone ran over my kid i'd want the people responsible to pay for it for the rest of their lives.

personally i feel for the driver as i dont think it was 100% his fault. i can see where the relatives of the victims are coming from though.

Craig · 17-09-2007, 10:01 PM

This whole incident is a huge tragedy of the highest calibre. Troy certainly didn't mean to crash but accidents do happen and i'm sure there was event insurance that should be covering all of this. Ever since this tragedy Troy is a wreck just like all the families that has lost loved ones, sometimes you just wish you could turn back time.