Can you believe some people...

Casablanca · 03-01-2008, 01:00 PM

get this i was driving to a mates house this morning along mount cotton road and some idiot in a ricer came flying up behind me (pretty sure it was an evo 9 was def an evo though) sat up my *** for about 5 mins kept trying to overtake intooncoming traffic and managed to run up the back of my uncles fairlane 500 original that i was driving. when i pull over and he gets out he starts thrying to fight me.

i stepped out of the car and he crapped his pants im about 6' 8 and built quite big

he then shut up for a few seconds then told me that he had run into me because i was going too slow i said that there is a 2-2.5 sec rule to avoid collisions like this and that i was sitting smack bang on the limit.

i then went around to the rear of the car and saw what he had done. the whole rear of the car has been completely punched in though compared to the damage to his car it was small, complete write off on his part i think, i then say to him that this car is worth more than his life and when my uncle finds out he is a dead man. he started mouthing off and tried to go me while i was talking to the cops they came round bout 20mins later while im punching the idiots head in because he hit me just after i got off the phone. they arrived pulled me off him charged me with assault, whats the bet he gets off because he started a fight with a bigger guy.

i just got back from the station whilst they investigate.

man does life suck.

i have yet to tell my uncle about his car

xbandrew · 03-01-2008, 01:05 PM

thats crap, i doubt he'll get off tho, did ya get him good

Quasi · 03-01-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xbandrew

thats crap, i doubt he'll get off tho, did ya get him good

Wrong! Been there done that. I spent a year of my life doing community service, after being extremely lucky and not going to gaol on two assualt charges after some ****er went to hit me and I stopped him.

The weird part is it was the same situation......the ****er hit my car after losing control in the wet.

grab a lawyer and tell him EVERYTHING, exactly as it happened.

I hope things work out for you 'Casablanca'.

Casablanca · 03-01-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasi

Wrong! Been there done that. I spent a year of my life doing community service, after being extremely lucky and not going to gaol on two assualt charges after some ****er went to hit me and I stopped him.

The weird part is it was the same situation......the ****er hit my car after losing control in the wet.

grab a lawyer and tell him EVERYTHING, exactly as it happened.

I hope things work out for you 'Casablanca'.

its already pretty much sorted the cops have arrested him for lying to them and believe the witness who saw it i dont have to worry about it anymore as they said i was in the right i told the truth and i was provoked into attack by what he said then classed under self defence as he hit me first.

he started it but i finished it and hopefully the repairs wont take to long on the fairlane 500

Foobar · 03-01-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Casablanca

its already pretty much sorted the cops have arrested him for lying to them and believe the witness who saw it i dont have to worry about it anymore as they said i was in the right i told the truth and i was provoked into attack by what he said then classed under self defence as he hit me first.

he started it but i finished it and hopefully the repairs wont take to long on the fairlane 500

Are the charges against you going to stand or will they be dropped now that the picture of what happened and why is extremely clear to the police?

FordACE · 03-01-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasi

Wrong! Been there done that. I spent a year of my life doing community service, after being extremely lucky and not going to gaol on two assualt charges after some ****er went to hit me and I stopped him.

The weird part is it was the same situation......the ****er hit my car after losing control in the wet.

grab a lawyer and tell him EVERYTHING, exactly as it happened.

I hope things work out for you 'Casablanca'.

yeah, unfortunately, the wrong doers often have more rights then others. YOu have to be careful to not have the law turn against you.

Life is one big giant game, just make sure you complete it with bonus points.

AUIIForte · 03-01-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FordACE

yeah, unfortunately, the wrong doers often have more rights then others. YOu have to be careful to not have the law turn against you.

Life is one big giant game, just make sure you complete it with bonus points.

hahahahaha! So true, I have experienced it on MANY levels!

Casablanca · 03-01-2008, 01:07 PM

yea i broke 4 of his ribs broke his nose splite his lip in several places and gave him some serious bruising around the midsection. im not really a fighter but when someone starts me and they are in the wrong i just see red.

Laminge · 03-01-2008, 01:16 PM

You are going to find that your size will work against you if taken to court sorry champ, your defense will be that, defense.

The plus side is he hit you.

vztrt · 03-01-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Laminge

You are going to find that your size will work against you if taken to court sorry champ, your defense will be that, defense.

The plus side is he hit you.

Pretty much agree there, hopefully he left bruising on ya. If so take pictures and make sure you have them as evidence.

Casablanca · 03-01-2008, 01:22 PM

yea i know thats the problem though he didnt do crap all to me bruising wise but from where the cops are standing he a bloody pulp and im aggroing and required a coupla cops to pull me off him, it looks like aggravated assault tho my uncle who owns the car is a lawyer so hope i get out of it

Mr Cube · 03-01-2008, 01:36 PM

Did he run up your back because you put the brakes on, to get them to step back?

LowEL2XR8 · 03-01-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Cube

Did he run up your back because you put the brakes on, to get them to step back?

I don't reckon you would do that in an original Fairlane 500.

AUIIForte · 03-01-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Cube

Did he run up your back because you put the brakes on, to get them to step back?

hahaha. Would turn the whole situation around!

AndyZH · 03-01-2008, 01:58 PM

Call your doctor, tell them you have been in a car accident and assault, visit them ASAP and get on the record your sore whatever that he hit.

You will have a record of his damage to your person, much better than saying 'he hit me, but i have nothing to prove it' later on.

Casablanca · 03-01-2008, 02:08 PM

i was just slowing down for a sharp caorner and he tried to accelerate on the inside lane you know the ones that allow you to move past if you need to turn, well he lost traction in the wet and hit me.

cheers for the idea i will go down to my doctor and let him know.

GT-P BOSS · 03-01-2008, 02:05 PM

good on you he had it comming. but unfortunatly your size will be a downfall but hopefully you won't get in too much trouble. :jab:

Casablanca · 03-01-2008, 02:11 PM

i knew i shouldnt have hit him back back but he was also telling me what a piece of shite car it was and how could anybody drive a bucket like that and it got me really angry because even to ricers i dont say stuff like that or commodore bogans i just keep to myself, but that coupled with what he was calling me and then he hit me i just blew my stack big time i don't remmeber most of it mainly getting pulled away by about 4 cops they dragged me off and cuffed me.

Kryton · 03-01-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Casablanca

i then say to him that this car is worth more than his life and when my uncle finds out he is a dead man.

and that right there is going to be your down fall.
although he tried fighting you at the start, you have made a threat on his life.
theres a fair chance if you had have not threatened him, you wouldnt find yourself in the predicament your in now.
hope it works out for you.

T3ts50 · 03-01-2008, 02:20 PM

Were there any witnesses that saw him hit you first? If you were so much bigger tha him, why didnt you just push him away? By the sounds of it you really went to town on him, which can seem a bit excessive on the cops point of view.

Casablanca · 03-01-2008, 02:26 PM

yea i know both the threat and the fight was pretty excessive and yes i did go to town but im pretty sure the cops are talking to a lady who saw me arguing with him and also saw him hit me first we were on her property. supposedly she thought it was hilarious when he hit me she thought it looked like david and goliath and she said there was no way in hell she was gunna try and break us up. btw this is what the police have just told me when they rang earlier, they then went on to say my statement coincides with the lady.
whereas the other guy was making stuff up to get out of shite.

even when i told the police that i had threatened him they said that its only aggravated assault if i continued to threaten him.

they actually laughed when they found that he had hit my uncles car then hit me being that im so big and have just informed me privately that they woulda done the same. lol

still pretty ****ed at myself for hitting him back though thought i had better self restraint. lol obviously not

Kryton · 03-01-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Casablanca

and also saw him hit me first

let me clear up one thing first. throwing the first punch does not mean stuff all in the eyes of the law.
example:
i was driving down the street when a guy walked out onto the road and stood there stopping traffic before he walked off. as i drove past him he punched my car and continued to walk to the other side of the road.
i got out of the car to see WTF was up and he decided to come back and punched me. a fight ensued, i got him a few times before the cops came.
now, who do you think was in the right?
ill tell you this right now, because i got out of my car, I PROVOKED HIM and he was defending himself. thats from the mouth of the LAW.
the fact he punched my car or punched me first meant jack.
i also later found out he was on eccies and had assaulted 2 other people that night.

FordACE · 03-01-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by davway

let me clear up one thing first. throwing the first punch does not mean stuff all in the eyes of the law.
example:
i was driving down the street when a guy walked out onto the road and stood there stopping traffic before he walked off. as i drove past him he punched my car and continued to walk to the other side of the road.
i got out of the car to see WTF was up and he decided to come back and punched me. a fight ensued, i got him a few times before the cops came.
now, who do you think was in the right?
ill tell you this right now, because i got out of my car, I PROVOKED HIM and he was defending himself. thats from the mouth of the LAW.
the fact he punched my car or punched me first meant jack.
i also later found out he was on eccies and had assaulted 2 other people that night.

So in the eyes of the law your saying, him hitting your car wasn't "provocation". Seriously, as if. But for his actions, you would never have got out of the car. YOu need a better lawyer.

Read the case, White v. Conolly (Qld) if you want a better understanding of provocation.

T3ts50 · 03-01-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FordACE

So in the eyes of the law your saying, him hitting your car wasn't "provocation". Seriously, as if. But for his actions, you would never have got out of the car. YOu need a better lawyer.

Read the case, White v. Conolly (Qld) if you want a better understanding of provocation.

Didnt they abolish the provocation law a few years back after some guy murdered his wife and claim her cheating on him was "provacation" and won the case?

FordACE · 03-01-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by T3ts50

Didnt they abolish the provocation law a few years back after some guy murdered his wife and claim her cheating on him was "provacation" and won the case?

I really doubt that. If you can show me the case, then I might believe it. You can't use the provocation law under white v. connoly to use excessive force. I.e, if you are punched, you can only punch back. You can't grab a knife and then plea provocation. YOu can only plea provocation if you "fight" back within what you were provoked with.

But, i'm willing to be proved otherwise.

LUXO_8 · 03-01-2008, 02:26 PM

wow.......wasnt even your car and you still threatened him......then layed into him.......

i dont care about the circumstances, but man, good luck, you're going to need it i think

XR8 Uterous · 03-01-2008, 02:27 PM

I hope your uncles a bloody good laywer.

Casablanca · 03-01-2008, 02:34 PM

well what would you do if some stain did the same to your car i know its not mine but i was driving it and responsible for it.

and it looks as if he is going to get charged with assault, found out he was ****ed and on drugs so the cops are going to charge him and we are going to sue.

its all good.

Casablanca · 03-01-2008, 02:36 PM

man that sucks but the cops told me becuase there were witnesses and he hit me and i retaliated that it was selfdefence on my part he not only hit me while i was in the car he also hit while out of the car before id even hit him

Laminge · 03-01-2008, 02:39 PM

Warrnambool is like that though, they dont want people to stop at all, drive right through is the aim

Violence begets violence, sometime it cannot be helped, other times you use it to your advantage