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Old 08-01-2008, 03:03 AM   #1
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Ive decided im going to race in the Targa West Rally......Well not really race but just do it for fun. So i need a car to do up or modify. But i dont know where to start. Half the fun will be getting the back out there for it has to be RWD. Im a fan of the VH-VK V8`s but parts for them especially the diffs are hard to get. I dont know if i should just go buy an EF XR6 and use that or something older?

Looking to aspending about 6k on the car and modifying it from there. Ideas?

Over here in W.A cars are expensive compared to over east keep that in mind.

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So $6000 on the car and around $30,000 on upgrades?
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:54 AM   #3
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go buy a capri and do that up or a Lotus 7, clubman etc cheap quick fun
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get a 4WD import cheap lots of available mods and generally speaking easy to work on. Nissan Gti-r are extremely good for it and are fairly cheap to buy.
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An old escort would be good, most have been modified to some point anyway. Nice and light to throw around and would be fast enough to make it exciting without being too dangerous. Ive wanted to do this event as well but I believe the entry fee is about $ 5000.00 dollars maybe someone could confirm exactly how much it does cost.
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An old escort would be good, most have been modified to some point anyway. Nice and light to throw around and would be fast enough to make it exciting without being too dangerous. Ive wanted to do this event as well but I believe the entry fee is about $ 5000.00 dollars maybe someone could confirm exactly how much it does cost.

^^as above...an escort. mk1/2 2 door rwd just throw a turbo or a big motor in it.....
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Depends on whether you want to be competitive or just have some fun. I too would get an esky or something cheap thats easy to work on and a hell of a lot of fun. If you are a good driver you can usually do well in your class too.
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just use your xr8, $6000 can cover your tires and entry fee
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just use your xr8, $6000 can cover your tires and entry fee
you'll spend 6 grand on brakes to get those things to stop properly :
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i was told escort motors are hard to work or something and very expensive, i was told you need about 5k on the motor to get them going anywhere
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i was told escort motors are hard to work or something and very expensive, i was told you need about 5k on the motor to get them going anywhere
Have you spoken to a workshop that specialises in sorting escorts??
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nope never knew there was one! Im in Perth is there one around here anyone knows of?
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nope never knew there was one! Im in Perth is there one around here anyone knows of?

Brocky was racing in the Perth Targa when he had his accident iirc.
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nope never knew there was one! Im in Perth is there one around here anyone knows of?
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yeh i know, 5k entry fee? BUGGA THAT i know the Dutton rally comes to Perth and is as good or better so ill do that because its a cheap entry fee i hear.
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yeh i know, 5k entry fee? BUGGA THAT i know the Dutton rally comes to Perth and is as good or better so ill do that because its a cheap entry fee i hear.
The Dutton Rally is good but it focuses more on driver skill event such as motorkhana's and really doesn't have that much in the way of timed speed events( tarmac rally stages) like Targa does. Theres a few circut sprints but its mostly autotests and motorkhana's.

That being said you can either enter by yourself, entry fee being $2070.00 or a driver/co-driver pairing where you each drive all the events for $2790.00

Then add $85 for a medical kit, the price of a cams level 2S license $83.
Your meals are paid for but accomidation is not. Crew members pay $390 for their meals.

Then you need all your fuel, tyres (you'll need more then one set) and thats before you even start thinking about buying and modifing a car
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You should really have a close look at the CAMS regulations regarding vehicle modifications and classes. You're VERY limited in what you can do to some cars, so it's worth checking out what you can do before spening the money.
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LOL they that bad hey?

Cheers madmelon for the advice
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My 2 cents

Classic Cars
1. Porsche
2. Torana
3. BDA Escort

Modern
1. EVO - rally import?
2. WRX - rally import?

I doubt you can afford any of them.
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BDA Escort....your talking $60k+ for just the car arn't you?

Id get an escort...4 door will do as your not that serious. Then go buy a magazine called Retro Ford IIRC, they made a race car on a shoe string budget.

Competing is half the fun.
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BDA Escort....your talking $60k+ for just the car arn't you?

Id get an escort...4 door will do as your not that serious. Then go buy a magazine called Retro Ford IIRC, they made a race car on a shoe string budget.

Competing is half the fun.
Is the bag out ATM?
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Is the bag out ATM?
Just go to a proper news agency and they should have it.

Its a UK mag that only deals with escorts/cortinas/capris etc; its actually a pretty informative mag; better than the crap we get here.

They should have a website aswell for back issues.
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BDA Escort....your talking $60k+ for just the car arn't you?

Id get an escort...4 door will do as your not that serious. Then go buy a magazine called Retro Ford IIRC, they made a race car on a shoe string budget.

Competing is half the fun.
Don't forget the 30 to 40K for the motor.
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Its just for fun with me and a mate, im not looking for a crazy escort just go buy a 4door one an RS2000 or something for 3-4-5k and do a bit of engine work.
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early subaru with late model 2.5 turbo motor, may blow the budget,but would definantly make a contender.
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RS2000s do well in their class in the targa tas and they aren't that expensive. You kind of want a slightly run down version of an old car so you don't respend on suspension, brakes, motor etc etc.
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Wasnt there a black torana several years ago that went very well, and it turned out to be a $5-6000 trade in at a dealership the week before? They just sorted the brakes and gave it a tune and the rest was as traded???

Good luck with it and as mentioned, do heaps of research BEFORE you spend your money!
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Wasnt there a black torana several years ago that went very well, and it turned out to be a $5-6000 trade in at a dealership the week before? They just sorted the brakes and gave it a tune and the rest was as traded???

Good luck with it and as mentioned, do heaps of research BEFORE you spend your money!
The only black torana I can remember is the O'Keefe LH .. that was a mega buck car ... damn it went well.
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The only black torana I can remember is the O'Keefe LH .. that was a mega buck car ... damn it went well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emZ_v...eature=related

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It was wrecked at Targa last year when an axle broke.
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