Zorst... Bris?

ronwest · 21-01-2008, 11:33 PM

My car had developed an occasional miss when idling. Plugs/leads/coil thought I but this evening I started it with the drivers door open and there is a definite leak in the exhaust somewhere so I guess I found the reason for the miss.

Now the question is who to take it to in Northside Bris?

I'm not after the cheapest deal just a reliable exhaust place (please don't mention Midas - been there done that - never again).

After a stock replacement only... droning on long trips ain't my thing - although my wife may disagree, lol.

JC · 21-01-2008, 11:38 PM

Hey Ron, Bob at Canberra Car styling....oops, wrong part needed.

The exhaust would only cause a miss if the muffler and/or cat has collapsed, wouldn't it? Do they have Carline mufflers up your way? The bloke I go to donw here is part of the Carline group, and he's good. Not saying they all are, but he definitely is.

Other options include Roadways, Powertone and the "golden touch" mob (whom you have already mentioned).

ronwest · 22-01-2008, 12:30 AM

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Hey Ron, Bob at Canberra Car styling....oops, wrong part needed.

Heh! This is probably only the second bit I've needed for my car...pos ;)

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Originally Posted by JC

The exhaust would only cause a miss if the muffler and/or cat has collapsed, wouldn't it?

I think so... I'm pretty sure (without even looking) that a muffler is cactus. "Leak" is the wrong description. I'm not sure what goes on under there but being a Ghia it must have at least 7 mufflers and five resonators...

Thanks for the names I'll check out who does what to whom and get it organised.

It may be that it has developed a miss as well as an exhaust issue but I'm not a great believer in coincidence (keep an eye out for my upcoming "leads/plugs/coil" post, lol.)

BLACKAUXR8 · 21-01-2008, 11:41 PM

Go and see steve at RDP (Redcliffe Dyno and Performance) if you want something thats not stock. He does custom pipes there

JC · 21-01-2008, 11:45 PM

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Go and see steve at RDP (Redcliffe Dyno and Performance) if you want something thats not stock. He does custom pipes there

He wants stock, not NOT stock.

Ron - a redback system with rear resonator does not drone.

BLACKAUXR8 · 21-01-2008, 11:51 PM

Sorry didnt read the first post properly. As JC redback do a nice after market one. Its not to expenseive and easily installed yourself if your keen. Most exaust shops should be able to help you out as there's not much they can stuff up with a stock pipe, although i have been wrong plenty of times before

mattp · 21-01-2008, 11:58 PM

It's southside rather than northside, but Men At Work at Capalaba are great value. I got a 2.5" system there, but I'm sure they can sort you out with something more stock if that's what you're after. 2.5" mandrel bent cat-back was $200, to give you an idea of their prices.

BLACKAUXR8 · 22-01-2008, 12:07 AM

^^^
I got them to do my old car. An AU1 6cyl. $550 2.5 inch mandrel bent with pacemakers

mattp · 22-01-2008, 12:10 AM

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^^^
I got them to do my old car. An AU1 6cyl. $550 2.5 inch mandrel bent with pacemakers

Damn, that's really cheap! I was thinking about pacies, but were going to be an extra $450, so didn't do it.

Chamelion · 22-01-2008, 12:18 AM

Hmmm, can an exgaust leak cause a miss at idle? The flange where my cat meets the 'cat-back' has a leak I'm quite sure and I do have a miss at idle.

BLACKAUXR8 · 22-01-2008, 12:37 AM

yeah they did mine for $350 that was a few years ago but

GreenMachine · 22-01-2008, 08:27 AM

I highly recommend Mac's Mufflers at Pickering St, Enoggera... Have done a few exhausts for me now, and the quality of their work is fantastic...

fordman_01 · 23-01-2008, 03:45 PM

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I highly recommend Mac's Mufflers at Pickering St, Enoggera... Have done a few exhausts for me now, and the quality of their work is fantastic...

id probably disagree with that, i got my exhaust fitted there and it would touch on the diff everytime id go over a bump and you'd hear a loud clunking noise, i got it fixed up at A1 exhausts a brendale. because apprently it wasnt installed properly, like waayyyyyyyyy to close to the diff.

whiskers · 22-01-2008, 08:58 AM

mate go and see these people I was told that my cat was had it and needed a new one so I done the usual ring around and ended up going to CARLINE at CABOOLTURE. the guys there had a look and it turned out to be the weld where the cat and the exhaust met so it only cost me $15 instead of the $160 or even over 200 for a new one. The phone number is 54992227 good luck with it.

cheers
whiskers

ronwest · 22-01-2008, 02:14 PM

Thanks guys... for convenience either Enoggera or Caboolture (friends close by at both) would be the go.

I'll call both today and see which witch is which.

ronwest · 22-01-2008, 05:16 PM

Just another question before I chase it up...

How is AU3 XR6 exhaust different to a Fairmont?

JC · 22-01-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ronwest

Just another question before I chase it up...

How is AU3 XR6 exhaust different to a Fairmont?

The Fairmont uses single 2.25" with 3 mufflers, IIRC. The XR6 uses either single 2.25" with one muffler and one resonator, or the full XR8 exhaust to the diff, then single outlet.

ronwest · 22-01-2008, 10:14 PM

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The XR6 uses either single 2.25" with one muffler and one resonator,

Thanks mate... the ex manifold is the same?

I'm sure I read that the small increase in power an XR6 has over the Fairmont is because of the different exhaust.
Might as well do that (particularly if that one small mod has me running low 12's...)

rob_liss_lms10 · 22-01-2008, 09:05 PM

also Jack Beedhams at Redcliffe do a fine exhaust for a good price, with good a reputation.

JC · 22-01-2008, 11:02 PM

Yep, manifold is common (to all I6s on the AU series). Just the fairmont VCT system was strangled for NVH levels, and thus is rated 4kw less than the XR6 VCT.

For non-VCT Fairmonts (ie not Ghias), the exhaust system is the same as run of the mill forte, but Ford charge twice as much for the Fairmont one than the forte one - all Fairmont/Ghia parts have a suffix of $$, lol.

ronwest · 22-01-2008, 11:30 PM

Ok, just got back from looking up "NVH levels" lol.

Yeah, I might as well unstrangle it. If the noise gets too much I'll shove a potato up the pipe...

JC · 23-01-2008, 12:08 AM

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Ok, just got back from looking up "NVH levels" lol.

Yeah, I might as well unstrangle it. If the noise gets too much I'll shove a potato up the pipe...

Once it cooks, you might then be chipped.

(bad potato/chip joke I know, but it's late).

blackers10 · 23-01-2008, 08:32 AM

a friend works at carline at pickering street.. he said they are crap and he wouldnt take his car there LOL (he does mechanical not exhausts)

bruce mclean at morayfield are pretty good thats who did mine

A1 exhausts at petrie is good they did debs exhaust

rob bliss down at geebung are good too

plenty of options really

eXi7w0unD · 23-01-2008, 03:30 PM

red cliffe dyno for sure dude, nothing else. 10% discount if u tell him ur a ford forums member

ronwest · 31-01-2008, 11:55 AM

Just as a follow up I ended up with a Redback 2 1/2" system from A1 at Brendale (brother in law lives nearby so got coffee as well).

It's certainly louder than stock... I don't know if it will be too loud for us but I'll let it carbon up for a couple of weeks and we'll see.

A1 seem to know their stuff and job was started and finished on time.

edit: oh, car hasn't missed at idle thus far.

blackers10 · 31-01-2008, 06:29 PM

if you havnt read the A1 website.. they basically act as a name .. with a bunch of small businesses using their name ...

but agreed they seem to give good service no matter which one you goto (petrie was good.. brendale is good as you have said.. theres another one that i cant remember

ronwest · 07-02-2008, 10:45 PM

Following up the follow up...

The exhaust was too loud for us. Was ok around town but out on the highway was unbearable.
Main prob was when was when cruise control was engaged, sort of:- brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmBRRRMMMMMM brrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmBRRRRRRRRRRM brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmBRRRRRRRRRRRRRMbrrrrrrmm mmmmBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRM.

Would have been impossible on a long trip. Anyhoo, back to the exhaust shop and they fitted a "glass lined" resonator (I think that what it is) and is much better. Still noisy but not the huge load/unload differential.

I think it will be ok (we're off down south in a couple of weeks) so we might go for a run up the coast this weekend to prove it.

Should also mention that the car is much more free revving without the restricted ghia exhaust. The miss has not reappeared to this point so (I think) all is good.

JC · 08-02-2008, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ronwest

Following up the follow up...

The exhaust was too loud for us. Was ok around town but out on the highway was unbearable.
Main prob was when was when cruise control was engaged, sort of:- brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmBRRRMMMMMM brrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmBRRRRRRRRRRM brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmBRRRRRRRRRRRRRMbrrrrrrmm mmmmBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRM.

Would have been impossible on a long trip. Anyhoo, back to the exhaust shop and they fitted a "glass lined" resonator (I think that what it is) and is much better. Still noisy but not the huge load/unload differential.

I think it will be ok (we're off down south in a couple of weeks) so we might go for a run up the coast this weekend to prove it.

Should also mention that the car is much more free revving without the restricted ghia exhaust. The miss has not reappeared to this point so (I think) all is good.

Ron - did the original install include a rear resonator? I found the standard redback fare pretty good on the wagon (one centre muffler, plus rear resonator). But the wagon I guess has more piping than a sedan, so that may have been the difference.

Glad to hear you think it's OK now though, and if you want to keep the free flowing feeling but reduce the noise again, you could get an additional small straight through muffler put in after the main one (before the diff). It will still be better than stock, but should knock the noise levels down a tad.

ronwest · 08-02-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JC

Ron - did the original install include a rear resonator?

Yes, but the new one is different. I was in a hurry so didn't quiz the guy but I think that the newer res is longer and certainly "glass lined" - I assume that means fibreglass.

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I found the standard redback fare pretty good on the wagon (one centre muffler, plus rear resonator). But the wagon I guess has more piping than a sedan, so that may have been the difference.

Yeah, I guess if I was a real petrohead I would have been impressed as well ;)

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Originally Posted by JC

Glad to hear you think it's OK now though, and if you want to keep the free flowing feeling but reduce the noise again, you could get an additional small straight through muffler put in after the main one (before the diff). It will still be better than stock, but should knock the noise levels down a tad.

I think it will be ok - maybe I'm getting used to it - but he's got a few tricks up his sleeve so that is probably the next step.

Nice animation and info here for the exhaust challenged:-
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/muffler4.htm

blackers10 · 07-02-2008, 11:44 PM

id say you will be fine mate

sounds as tho yours sounded as mine does at the moment

its fun for a while.. but does get annoying when using cruise control and light throttle applications etc..

but Wide Open Throttle it sounds AWESOME