police mobile 92 in a 90 zone did he catch me?

[deathlucky]

i was just driving home along a motorway in a 90 as i passed a mobile police speed cam i look down and my speedo was reading 92. what speed do they go off? at i didnt see any flash.

thanks

[V3RSAC3]

What State are you in?? ... i know in South Australia they give you a 10% speed Leaniancy ... but Victoria they do not??

[CADSKY]

it depends if your speedo is acurate or not. it is common for speedo's to be out 3-4 k's either way. if yours is out the wrong way then i sorry but chances are you got done, this is why most speed cameras give 3k's allowance, however it is more than likely it will be 3 k's under what it tells you, i know mine is 3 k's under.

[deathlucky]

i live in qld and have 195/75/14 tyres on the back

[CADSKY]

i believe they allow 10% with mobile detection systems in QLD eg in cop cars or radar guns but i think fixed cameras are 3 k's

[Feathers]

If you were speeding past a mobile camera, I was under the impression they came after you, or had another car up further waiting to stop you.
So if you weren't stopped, then perhaps luck is on your side?

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by Feathers

If you were speeding past a mobile camera, I was under the impression they came after you, or had another car up further waiting to stop you.
So if you weren't stopped, then perhaps luck is on your side?

Camera cars do not pursue at all, they photograph.

Handheld guns/side mounted radars pursue.

[deathlucky]

awesome but do they flash at you when they get you

[CADSKY]

the ones in the 4X4's do flash, hand held radars dont flash, like feathers said, they either come after you or have someone waiting for you further ahead.

[deathlucky]

Originally Posted by swan_ford

the ones in the 4X4's do flash, hand held radars dont flash, like feathers said, they either come after you or have someone waiting for you further ahead.

yer it was one of them 4x4 but do they always flash? i have had 1 flash at me before when i was on the bike but it got the front of me. bloody bright tho i thought i had been struck by lightning lol.

oh well thats for putting my mind at ease

[deathlucky]

oh well stuff it from what i have READ any thing under 13 over is 1 point $100 no matter i can spare a point

[CADSKY]

personally i wouldnt be worryed. its more than likely u were sitting on or under the speed limit.

[fmc351]

In standard form, your speedo (unless its a much older car) will read higher than actual speed (in other words cant lead to a fine). Speedo may read 100 when actual speed is 96 (to the police youre doing 96, not 100), but will not read say 100 when youre actually doing 104, all speedos must read accurately or higher they are not permitted to read lower than actual speed. The only time newer cars speedos give lower readings than actual (in danger of being fined due to speedo innacuracy) is when you mess with ratios (tyre sizes (remember tyre width effects profiles and profile is where the ratio is), diff etc all can effect speedo readings) and that puts the problem squarely on you, you cant blame the speedo.

They do not allow 10% in Qld, the tolerance is unknown and varies with the set speed limit and anyone who tells you its 10% is guessing. There is a tolerance buts its minimal.

If your car is within the ratios, and as you saw no flash, you werent going too fast.

[Donny]

Originally Posted by fmc351

They do not allow 10% in Qld, the tolerance is unknown and varies with the set speed limit and anyone who tells you its 10% is guessing. There is a tolerance buts its minimal.

BULL!!
They Do allow at least 10% in QLD. My cousin has been a Highway Patrol Officer for over 15 years, and I hear all sorts of things from him about this. Just about everyone does 120 on the M1 motorway between Bris and the Gold Coast and they never get pinged.
On a 'flash for cash' the flash does go off. The cops set their radar up on the M1 in several spots and when the odd car goes by at 120 plus, the flash goes off in daytime or night.
Even the mobile units or side of the road radars with chase cars give 10% leeway, and depending on their mood sometimes more, specially in 60/70 and 80 zones. If they are in a bad mood or need their monthly quotas filled, then its 10% and no more.
How do I know this for fact? apart from the copper in the family, in the last 3 years I have been pinged once, and that was on my way back from Sydney in the Hunter Area, the ute we were driving decided to have its speedo needle stick on the way home and I got nabbed for a bit over. I never lost any points over it either.

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by xagt_coupe

BULL!!
They Do allow at least 10% in QLD. My cousin has been a Highway Patrol Officer for over 15 years, and I hear all sorts of things from him about this. Just about everyone does 120 on the M1 motorway between Bris and the Gold Coast and they never get pinged.
On a 'flash for cash' the flash does go off. The cops set their radar up on the M1 in several spots and when the odd car goes by at 120 plus, the flash goes off in daytime or night.
Even the mobile units or side of the road radars with chase cars give 10% leeway, and depending on their mood sometimes more, specially in 60/70 and 80 zones. If they are in a bad mood or need their monthly quotas filled, then its 10% and no more.
How do I know this for fact? apart from the copper in the family, in the last 3 years I have been pinged once, and that was on my way back from Sydney in the Hunter Area, the ute we were driving decided to have its speedo needle stick on the way home and I got nabbed for a bit over. I never lost any points over it either.

That 120 you say is according to a speedo likely to be representing a true 111. That would be 1km over in a 110 zone, hardly proves anything. Need proof of how high your speedo reads, see below for examples.

Originally Posted by Pinch

Examples:

BA XR6 - was doing 96 at indicated 100, Mini is the same, Subie Forester is 92 at indicated 100, Hyundai Lantra (j2 99) 91 at 100. Sportsman comes the closest ever at 98 road speed at indicated 100.

Get your family member on here to tell us all its 10% as policy. The rest of your so called proof is just flawed logic.

And what the hell does the flash going off have to do with my post?

[flappist]

Originally Posted by fmc351

That 120 you say is according to a speedo likely to be representing a true 111. That would be 1km over in a 110 zone, hardly proves anything. Need proof of how high your speedo reads, see below for examples.


Get your family member on here to tell us all its 10% as policy. The rest of your so called proof is just flawed logic.

You really have no idea do you...........

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by flappist

You really have no idea do you...........

And you know it is 10% how exactly?

The Qld government has refused to specify publicly any tolerance.

[Mont5.0]

(remember tyre width effects profiles and profile is where the ratio is),

Width? height perhaps.

[Mont5.0]

i agree with that bloke 2 posts above me!!

[TEaaron]

Originally Posted by fmc351

In standard form, your speedo (unless its a much older car) will read higher than actual speed (in other words cant lead to a fine). Speedo may read 100 when actual speed is 96 (to the police youre doing 96, not 100), but will not read say 100 when youre actually doing 104, all speedos must read accurately or higher they are not permitted to read lower than actual speed. The only time newer cars speedos give lower readings than actual (in danger of being fined due to speedo innacuracy) is when you mess with ratios (tyre sizes (remember tyre width effects profiles and profile is where the ratio is), diff etc all can effect speedo readings) and that puts the problem squarely on you, you cant blame the speedo.

They do not allow 10% in Qld, the tolerance is unknown and varies with the set speed limit and anyone who tells you its 10% is guessing. There is a tolerance buts its minimal.

If your car is within the ratios, and as you saw no flash, you werent going too fast.

Is there a fine if your speedo reads lower than your actual speed? because mine reads about 58 when I'm doing 100.

[fmc351]

For those interested, a Sth Australian minister blew the secrecy of the Victorian tolerance by announcing that it was 6km/h in Victoria not the alleged 3km/h all the pessimists keep harping on about. Its also been revealed Victorias was not 10% prior to the new tolerance, it was 9km/h before being lowered to 6km/h. It was a strange event as he did so in explaining the reasons for keeping the SA tolerance a secret.

Oh and state ministers do communicate with each other, they do discuss issues and methods of dealing with them too, so its likely he is privy to that information.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...68-910,00.html

Originally Posted by TEaaron

Is there a fine if your speedo reads lower than your actual speed? because mine reads about 58 when I'm doing 100.

Id suggest the vehicle is unroadworthy then, that will be the legal stance. The ADR's apply to new cars from the factory, you just need to keep it within manufacturer specs or within the states modification restrictions.

There are ways to correct the speedo error. If youre talking the Cortina, IIRC the TE's speedo is not electronic, so its a matter of finding out what cog size you need and getting one, or having it made, youll probably find there is a Falcon cog that should do the job. Its up to you. most police wouldnt know its out, unless you used that as an excuse when pulled over. Or a car-smart cop who spots the 5 speed and knows Cortinas.

[Kryton]

short answer is: NO, youll be fine.
long answer is: wait 2 weeks and find out.

[Pinch]

Agree with FMC351. Your speedo won't be that accurate (will overstate speed). See if you can borrow a portable sat nav or GPS based road angel from someone and find out how accurate your speedo is. I have used the GPS in a number of cars and none have ever read true.

Examples:

BA XR6 - was doing 96 at indicated 100, Mini is the same, Subie Forester is 92 at indicated 100, Hyundai Lantra (j2 99) 91 at 100. Sportsman comes the closest ever at 98 road speed at indicated 100.

See if you have an old Wheels mag which used to show speed at indicated 100 as well in specs.

[fordomatic]

it didn't flash your safe!

[satria]

if you didn't see a flash wtf are you worrying about?

[sfr rob]

Originally Posted by satria

if you didn't see a flash wtf are you worrying about?

Most of the cameras down here don't flash, I think they use infrared technology now.

[deathlucky]

i wasn't sure if they always flashed during the day lol. 10% ill keep that in mind but try to stay as close to the speed limit as possible. thanks for your input everyone

[Captain Stubing]

In Queensland, the 10% guide is good when you're talking about a 100km speed limit.

In reality, it has always been the 10km rule, i.e if you go through a speed camera in a 60 zone at 70km/hr, you're safe, but you'll get a fine at 71km/hr.

Same applies to other zones, you'll get a fine at 81 in a 70 zone, 91 in a 80 zone and so on. I haven't seen this in written down, though.

With handheld devices, it is up to the discretion of the operator, though the 10km error usually applies (unless other circumstances exist).

At the end of the day, if you keep to the 10% theory, that will keep you under the capture limit.

[Darkr]

In my BA with almost full tread tyres at the correct rolling, my real speed is 91-92km/ph when reading 100.

The cops allow 8km/hr over here.

So you will more then likely be right.

[Falcon4L]

in victoria speed cameras give a 3km/h discrepancy under 100km/h. Once you exceed 100 it becomes 3%. This is only given because the radar guns are not 100% accurate and to be fair the police have to have this buffer zone. This may be different in other states.