Warning - Baited by F6 typhoon cop

Lynch'd · 11-07-2008, 11:10 AM

Guys, just thought i'd share my experiences this morning as it might serve as a warning to anyone in Sydneys western suburbs (or anywhere for that matter).

Driving west along the M4 this morning as I do every day I noticed a F6 come flying up behind me. As he got close he pulled out into the right lane as if to overtake but instead pulled up along side my window. The guy in the front (plain clothed) then turns and gives me a look as if he wanted to race and rev'd it a few times (we're doing 100k's already). He then plants his foot an takes off to see if i'd chase.

Now thankfully a number of things stopped me from doing something real stupid here. 1. I've got a basically stock XR6 ute and wouldn't have stood a chance. 2. I know there's two F6 unmarked cop cars operating regularly on the M4. Oh and 3, i would never involve myself in such illegal practices :evil3: :evil3:

Anyway, as he took off I quickly noticed the lights sitting on the rear parcel shelf and left him to go on his way.

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I was a little surprised by the use of this tactic though. I bet he catches a few rev heads unaware. Consider yourself warned.

ayeyew · 11-07-2008, 11:11 AM

Any good lawyer would surely get them off on entrapment anyways.

There is no way that any person would have commited the unlawful act of speeding without being baited like this

We never speed

SHAME SHAME SHAME

Does the entrapment law still exist?

Lynch'd · 11-07-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ayeyew

Any good lawyer would surely get them off on entrapment anyways.

There is no way that any person would have commited the unlawful act of speeding without being baited like this

We never speed

SHAME SHAME SHAME

Does the entrapment law still exist?

Yeah entrapment was my first thought too?? They're probably banking on people not knowing enough, or not having the money to challenge the fine.

FGII-XR6 · 11-07-2008, 11:33 AM

you must enjoy your american TV entrapment is not and never was illegal in australia if you are stupid enough to race you get busted

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Originally Posted by ayeyew

Any good lawyer would surely get them off on entrapment anyways.

There is no way that any person would have commited the unlawful act of speeding without being baited like this

We never speed

SHAME SHAME SHAME

Does the entrapment law still exist?

XABEBAGT · 11-07-2008, 11:37 AM

One simple rule.
If you want to race - do it on a track.
The public roads are not meant for speed.
You read the results from speed too often in the paper.
Keep to the speed limits and stay safe.
No speeding = no fines.
Cheers
Keith

TOASTED · 11-07-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by XABEBAGT

One simple rule.
If you want to race - do it on a track.
The public roads are not meant for speed.
You read the results from speed too often in the paper.
Keep to the speed limits and stay safe.
No speeding = no fines.
Cheers
Keith

i agree but there is no race track within 500KM of us, thus we all (sorry not really me, ive raced once) result to going to the middle of nowhere and finding a nice straight road.

ayeyew · 11-07-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

you must enjoy your american TV entrapment is not and never was illegal in australia if you are stupid enough to race you get busted

Hey

That movie really struck a chord with me

I get all of my criminal law knowledge from American television

As i get all of my forensic knowledge from CSI

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DBourne · 11-07-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ayeyew

As i get all of my forensic knowledge from CSI

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exactly! no matter what the crime is, there is always seamen EVERYWHERE

sgt_doofey · 11-07-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtBourne

exactly! no matter what the crime is, there is always seamen EVERYWHERE

I've watched that show and I've never seen any sailors. Perhaps you were watching Lisa Macune in Sea Patrol.

Now, if you mean semen, then I would know what you are talking about.

Rodp · 11-07-2008, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayeyew

Any good lawyer would surely get them off on entrapment anyways.

There is no way that any person would have commited the unlawful act of speeding without being baited like this

We never speed

SHAME SHAME SHAME

Does the entrapment law still exist?

It never has. This isn't America.

If you get done by an unmarked goading you into a race, you're the kind of driver I'd prefer not to share the road with. Throw the book at them.

Cam · 11-07-2008, 11:12 AM

This is going on all over QLD, in skylines, subies and the likes. they are stopping at nothing to catch hoons. I wish they'd catch people like the gits that broke into my car rather then trying to get people to race!

IMO they should be trying to stop people racing on the street, not trying to encourage them to race!

Ando_Leigh · 11-07-2008, 11:19 AM

I was almost baited a month or so ago

Coming back from Cronulla after taking the Uncles Mustang for a drive

I had this blue F6 pull up next to me at the lights and slowly kept creeping forward and looking over at me as if to say "Lets Race" as the light went green he took off pretty hard thinking nothing of it I just kept on driving , as i got further down the road i see the same F6 chuck a uturn and put the sirens on. Can imagine what i was thinking after seeing that.

Lucky it wasn't my car and lucky that it was the stang cause as soon as there any sudden throttle the bags light up and with it being sorta close to home I new some one would spot me.

I have heard many tales of cops trying this baiting thing.

TheSneakiness · 11-07-2008, 11:23 AM

For crying out loud.

THERE IS NO ENTRAPMENT LAW IN AUSTRALIA.

Numerous threads I've read here about this and everyone cries entrapment. Ask XA Coupe or Redrum... it doesn't exist.

We are not America... ;)

Lynch'd · 11-07-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

For crying out loud.

THERE IS NO ENTRAPMENT LAW IN AUSTRALIA.

Numerous threads I've read here about this and everyone cries entrapment. Ask XA Coupe or Redrum... it doesn't exist.

We are not America... ;)

Hahaha. Guess i've been watching too many American movies. Really should get my legal advice from elsewhere

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hypnodoc · 11-07-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

For crying out loud.

THERE IS NO ENTRAPMENT LAW IN AUSTRALIA.

Numerous threads I've read here about this and everyone cries entrapment. Ask XA Coupe or Redrum... it doesn't exist.

We are not America... ;)

Well that just proves these clowns are low life grubs who should be out doing real police work instead of driving around in tax payer funded cars deceiving motorists.
Sure if your speeding and they get you then fair enough. I think this is a good justification as to why there should be entrapment laws :togo:
No wonder the NSW HWP has gotten a reputation as Jury Wreckers. What a farce and a joke

Ando_Leigh · 11-07-2008, 11:26 AM

Yeah we all know its Entrapment. But i had a little look into it after i was almost baited.

The problem is you can say its Entrapment but you have to have the proof to back it all up.
I would also assume that as soon as you take off hard they would just get you then and book you for dangerous driving or "hooning" and claim they never actually tried to race you that’s just how you interpreted it.

superpursuit83 · 11-07-2008, 11:28 AM

Yeah no entrapment law here that I know of... Best not to race and then call the cops and dob in a hoon, driving a black F6

I am sure I saw an unmarked VE SS Ute in my neck of the woods this week

XA-Coupe · 11-07-2008, 03:12 PM

Damn people whine ! Just get over it.

However................. someone said something so perfect but everyone was too busy whining to notice it ..

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Originally Posted by superpursuit83

Best not to race and then call the cops and dob in a hoon, driving a black F6

If this isn't the best thing you could do to give them the sh!t5 what is ?? Don't race them then dob them in.

GSH · 11-07-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XA-Coupe

Damn people whine ! Just get over it.

However................. someone said something so perfect but everyone was too busy whining to notice it ..

If this isn't the best thing you could do to give them the sh!t5 what is ?? Don't race them then dob them in.

Dob them in? YEH RIGHT go to the Police and they will simply say "We dont do that. I think you are mistaken"

RG · 11-07-2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GSH

Dob them in? YEH RIGHT go to the Police and they will simply say "We dont do that. I think you are mistaken"

Over this way we have a "dob in a hoon line" that you can call. Don't have to go to the Police.

ayeyew · 11-07-2008, 11:28 AM

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Bloody common law...

DABOSS · 11-07-2008, 11:29 AM

I've had a few in UC police cars try this , I just give them the bird and drive off. As far I care they can all go and get knoted..

**ebxr8240** · 11-07-2008, 11:33 AM

They don't like it either if you beat them to the speed limit and cruise ....

TZENU · 11-07-2008, 11:47 AM

There'd be no way of legally beating this scenario.. You could argue that; hadn't the cop enticed you, you would have not raced but you still broke the law... That would last about 30 seconds and you'd be thrown out of court!!!

azaxr8 · 11-07-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TZENU

There'd be no way of legally beating this scenario.. You could argue that; hadn't the cop enticed you, you would have not raced but you still broke the law... That would last about 30 seconds and you'd be thrown out of court!!!

oh this is such a load of crock lol. My friend got busted for doing a burnout in his worked sv8 about 10 months ago. Took it to court and fought it. The judge made him do a defence driving course and he didnt lose his licence.

How does a defence driving course help a boy from thinking twice about a burnout in a 300kw worked sv8? lol?

Then we look at the other side? people getting 10 years for murder?

pathetic. To say you will get thrown out of court is obscure? In more cases you will win more then you will lose.

TZENU · 11-07-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by azaxr8

oh this is such a load of crock lol. My friend got busted for doing a burnout in his worked sv8 about 10 months ago. Took it to court and fought it. The judge made him do a defence driving course and he didnt lose his licence.

How does a defence driving course help a boy from thinking twice about a burnout in a 300kw worked sv8? lol?

Then we look at the other side? people getting 10 years for murder?

pathetic. To say you will get thrown out of court is obscure? In more cases you will win more then you will lose.

Your kidding right?... Go get this mate of yours to drag race a cop and see if he gets off without losing his licence and car... Legal aid will only get you so far

XR06T · 11-07-2008, 11:52 AM

so how come the police are allowed to race if its so dangerous?

Lynch'd · 11-07-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by XR06T

so how come the police are allowed to race if its so dangerous?

Ok so I might be getting confused with american TV again here but I was under the impression they were not allowed to break the law themselves unless the lights were on?

V3RSAC3 · 11-07-2008, 12:02 PM

we got a couple of the unmarked F6's around here in Adelaide too ... word is that they made an order of 8!

||| · 11-07-2008, 12:03 PM

i got baited by an EL XR8 in 1998 or so. it was fun racing him on the freeway and the fine was money well spent. he only did me for 15km over.