engine flush for sticky lifters

blueoval · 08-02-2009, 01:57 PM

My car has done 137,000km. Easy driving mainly

The lifters/lash adjusters are noisy. I replace oil every 10,000km and plugs without fail since ownership. The previous owner did the same as it is recorded in the log book.

I have heard different opinions on the use of engine flush additives.

I have also heard some people use a lot of kero to flush their crank case to solve a sticky lifter issue without issue, (not driving the car with that) but replacing the kero with proper oil after.

Im a bit skeptical. Whats best?

Dave_Obsession · 08-02-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

My car has done 137,000km. Easy driving mainly

The lifters/lash adjusters are noisy. I replace oil every 10,000km and plugs without fail since ownership. The previous owner did the same as it is recorded in the log book.

I have heard different opinions on the use of engine flush additives.

I have also heard some people use a lot of kero to flush their crank case to solve a sticky lifter issue without issue, (not driving the car with that) but replacing the kero with proper oil after.

Im a bit skeptical. Whats best?

My old ED had sticky lifters.......I put in a bottle of some Wynns stuff that was meant to stop them being so sticky and noisy..........hey presto it worked!! No more lifter noise - except maybe a little bit on really cold days @ start-up for 5 seconds, then that stopped as well......

Just my two cents......

blueoval · 08-02-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dave93761

My old ED had sticky lifters.......I put in a bottle of some Wynns stuff that was meant to stop them being so sticky and noisy..........hey presto it worked!! No more lifter noise - except maybe a little bit on really cold days @ start-up for 5 seconds, then that stopped as well......

Just my two cents......

That Wynn's stuff is basically Kero. So I might as well use Kero.

Start up lifter noise is normal till oil pressure builds up.

poolkeeper · 08-02-2009, 06:09 PM

You can get some engine flush product from mainlube.
http://www.mainlube.com/cms/

I plan to use this stuff next oil change

InfernoSR · 08-02-2009, 07:14 PM

i used a flush last oil change, MolyTech Engine Detox. Then when it came to filling it up again i also added a bottle of Lucas Oil Stabilizer to my Shell Multigrade oil... works a charm and no noise up top.

blueoval · 08-02-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BLUEPRINT

i used a flush last oil change, MolyTech Engine Detox. Then when it came to filling it up again i also added a bottle of Lucas Oil Stabilizer to my Shell Multigrade oil... works a charm and no noise up top.

Is this the product you are referring to?
http://www.liqui-moly.com.au/product1.htm

InfernoSR · 08-02-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Is this the product you are referring to?
http://www.liqui-moly.com.au/product1.htm

Thats the one... well... the Detox is the one :P

blueoval · 08-02-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BLUEPRINT

Thats the one... well... the Detox is the one :P

Thanks mate, will pick some Detox and HD oil stabilizer up tomorrow. ;)

Has anyone used the Nulon stuff before? Is it any good?

blueoval · 08-02-2009, 07:51 PM

Hey fellas, thanks for the replies.

Can you tell me where you get your products from? Can you get it from a mainstream business, or is it a special order?

InfernoSR · 08-02-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Hey fellas, thanks for the replies.

Can you tell me where you get your products from? Can you get it from a mainstream business, or is it a special order?

Got all mine from Supercheap :P

blueoval · 09-02-2009, 12:29 PM

I just bought a bottle of Liqui-Moly Engine Detox for $22.95 and the Lucas HD oil stabiliser for $16.38 from Supersheap Auto.

Will be doing the flush tonight after work.

BLUEPRINT - How much of a difference was there after you did the Detox? Could you notice the ticking as much?

InfernoSR · 09-02-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

I just bought a bottle of Liqui-Moly Engine Detox for $22.95 and the Lucas HD oil stabiliser for $16.38 from Supersheap Auto.

Will be doing the flush tonight after work.

BLUEPRINT - How much of a difference was there after you did the Detox? Could you notice the ticking as much?

The Detox is the one that removes the crap in the system... the Oil Stibilzer is the one that relubricates and helps reduce the ticking... i just found the Detox to be less harful compaired to some of the other cheaper ones... and i did mine about 3 weeks ago with no signs of issue's to date.

Use the whole bottle of Oil Stabilizer and top with engine oil for best results.

blueoval · 09-02-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BLUEPRINT

The Detox is the one that removes the crap in the system... the Oil Stibilzer is the one that relubricates and helps reduce the ticking... i just found the Detox to be less harful compaired to some of the other cheaper ones... and i did mine about 3 weeks ago with no signs of issue's to date.

Use the whole bottle of Oil Stabilizer and top with engine oil for best results.

Thanks mate for your advice. Will see tonight of the benefits noise wise and report back.

How come you used the whole bottle of the stabilizer? I read on the site to use 20% of the bottle per 4 litres of oil. Will using the whole bottle give greater effects?

InfernoSR · 09-02-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Thanks mate for your advice. Will see tonight of the benefits noise wise and report back.

How come you used the whole bottle of the stabilizer? I read on the site to use 20% of the bottle per 4 litres of oil. Will using the whole bottle give greater effects?

To be honest... i've never read the site... i might be doing a bit of overkill with mine then... lol... never caused damage in the past 8 years of using the same product in all of my registered cars :P

blueoval · 09-02-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BLUEPRINT

To be honest... i've never read the site... i might be doing a bit of overkill with mine then... lol... never caused damage in the past 8 years of using the same product in all of my registered cars :P

I guess it doesnt hurt putting a bit extra in then. Seems to be a bit of added insurance. I might just put in half for now.

What intervals do you change your oil with this additive in it? Do you go for a bit longer than usual?

blueoval · 09-02-2009, 06:23 PM

I reckon with a whole bottle of Lucas, you could have got away with 15,000km.

blueoval · 09-02-2009, 11:03 PM

Oil change was done after I added the Detox to the engine. Noticed that the tappets got a little quieter during the 10min run in.

Emptied the old oil. Added 2/3rds to 1/2 of the Lucas Oil Stabiliser and an entire 5 litre bottle of HPR GAS 20w-60 and new oil filter. Started the car up. Started as little noisey at first till oil circulated and oil pressure regained. After that, the engine seemed a little smoother but noticeably quieter without the rattle of the tappets.

Gave it a little rev, and could still hear the tappets/lash adjusters a little, but no way near as bad as before. Im only guessing but I reckon the noise will enventually improve over time.

Seems to help the noise level so far. Will know by tomorrow when I drive to work if the engine noise has reduced more so.

blueoval · 10-02-2009, 09:58 AM

After driving the car to work, I made the following observations:

* Free-d up a little low down power
* Free-d up some extra rev's and it rev's quicker now.
* The engine doesnt sound like a bag of 'marbles' straight after releasing the accelerator.
* Car idles quieter

JoesAu · 03-03-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

After driving the car to work, I made the following observations:

* Free-d up a little low down power
* Free-d up some extra rev's and it rev's quicker now.
* The engine doesnt sound like a bag of 'marbles' straight after releasing the accelerator.
* Car idles quieter

i used this the other day and experienced the same results, very happy with it.

InfernoSR · 10-02-2009, 10:34 AM

Thats great results mate! i'd be very pleased with that... well i am with my own cars... lol!

graham_h · 10-02-2009, 10:57 AM

I'll have to get some for my EA
It sounds like a bag of spanners on start up

blueoval · 10-02-2009, 12:38 PM

Im amazed at how gum and oil sludge can sap power from an engine.

I have concluded that by removing as much residue and gunk in the engine with the occasional flush & detox, your engine should better mannered, and give out as much power as it can handle without crap holding it back.

Thanks for the referral BLUEPRINT

InfernoSR · 10-02-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Im amazed at how gum and oil sludge can sap power from an engine.

I have concluded that by removing as much residue and gunk in the engine with the occasional flush & detox, your engine should better mannered, and give out as much power as it can handle without crap holding it back.

Thanks for the referral BLUEPRINT

lol... you're welcome mate.

shazaam · 10-02-2009, 03:44 PM

I must check this stuff out, thanks for the heads up.

MGM · 11-02-2009, 05:11 PM

i used the nulon lifter free/tune up 2 days ago just to see what happens, to my surprise the car has got more quiet, not fully gone but hardly noticable now, and i did notice a smoother feeling engine.

blueoval · 11-02-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

i used the nulon lifter free/tune up 2 days ago just to see what happens, to my surprise the car has got more quiet, not fully gone but hardly noticable now, and i did notice a smoother feeling engine.

good work. I dont mind some of the Nulon products.

I still amazed about the amount of power that was released by doing an engine flush and oil stabilizer. The car just wants to rev, and rev hard!!!

I totally recomend using the Lucas Heavy Duty Oil stabilizer with your next oil change. Its cheap and certainly worthwhile IMHO.

InfernoSR · 11-02-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

good work. I dont mind some of the Nulon products.

I still amazed about the amount of power that was released by doing an engine flush and oil stabilizer. The car just wants to rev, and rev hard!!!

I totally recomend using the Lucas Heavy Duty Oil stabilizer with your next oil change. Its cheap and certainly worthwhile IMHO.

lol... anyone would think you are happy with it... lol!

blueoval · 11-02-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BLUEPRINT

lol... anyone would think you are happy with it... lol!

Am I that obvious???

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I've never done stuff like this to any of my cars before, and Im just glad I did. Car is running great

MGM · 11-02-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

good work. I dont mind some of the Nulon products.

I still amazed about the amount of power that was released by doing an engine flush and oil stabilizer. The car just wants to rev, and rev hard!!!

I totally recomend using the Lucas Heavy Duty Oil stabilizer with your next oil change. Its cheap and certainly worthwhile IMHO.

yeah il do the flush when my oil is due, i usually change around 7000km's. does the engine flush go in a day or so before you drain it?

InfernoSR · 11-02-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Peuty

May I ask what the oil stabiliser does? Other than stabilising the oil, of course!

I beleive it thickens the oil a touch and makes it somewhat sticker, thus sticking to the components more and reducing harsh cold starts...

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Originally Posted by Lucas Oil Website

Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer
A pure petroleum multi-use oil supplement. Controls noise, heat and wear in manual transmissions and differentials. Number one in the heavy duty and high performance industries.

Lucas Oil Stabilizer is a 100% petroleum product formulated to eliminate dry starts and reduce friction, heat and wear in any type of engine. It allows motor oils a higher degree of lubricity which reduces oil consumption and operating temperatures. Use Lucas Oil Stabilizer in gear oil to stop leaks, reduce operating temperatures and increase the life of the gear oil. Since it is pure petroleum, it can safely blend with all other automotive lubricants, even synthetics, ATF and mineral oil. It keeps old engines alive and new engines new.

In Ford Powerstrokes we suggest one quart of Pure Synthetic Oil Stabilizer per oil change.

Key Benefits
Increase oil life at least 50% longer
Reduces oil consumption
Eliminates dry starts
Raises oil pressure
Increases power and miles per gallon

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Originally Posted by MGM

yeah il do the flush when my oil is due, i usually change around 7000km's. does the engine flush go in a day or so before you drain it?

The Detox says only 10 mins with a running engine.