Clear "tint" for windscreen

graham_h · 12-02-2009, 03:23 PM

I guess we all know we can't tint our screens.
I'm sick of burning my hands on the wheel and seeing the dah melt in the QLD sun.

Can anyone see any reason why we can't apply a clear film to our screens ?

Read the specs on this 3M film

http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediaw...zz&K2rjvZZZZ8-

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Reflectivity That's Actually Lower Than Glass

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Optically clear.

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films reject up to 97% of the
sun’s infrared

Yes I realize that the product is for home/office applications, but I can't see any reason why it'd be a problem applying it to your screen.

After all no one would know

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BlackLS · 12-02-2009, 03:42 PM

Take a look at Renaults windscreen. They are tinted a little purple.

Iggypoppin' · 12-02-2009, 04:07 PM

I have always been curious why there is a legal (huh?) tint for cars. I mean, how is it detremental to anything? Adding to the road toll? It's tint and it serves a purpose, it really shouldn't matter how dark windows are.

Feathers · 12-02-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SLWXR6

I have always been curious why there is a legal (huh?) tint for cars. I mean, how is it detremental to anything? Adding to the road toll? It's tint and it serves a purpose, it really shouldn't matter how dark windows are.

It's also a safety precaution for police if they pull you over - they can see how many people are in the car and decide if they may need assistance.

baboon · 13-02-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SLWXR6

I have always been curious why there is a legal (huh?) tint for cars. I mean, how is it detremental to anything? Adding to the road toll? It's tint and it serves a purpose, it really shouldn't matter how dark windows are.

It is a bit off topic but, but I fully agree with this. Window tint should be allowed as dark as one wants.

If visibility is a problem, then we should legalise the tinting on peoples sunglasses. Im definate that the tint on sunnies is much darker then 35% tint.

mattp · 13-02-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by baboon

It is a bit off topic but, but I fully agree with this. Window tint should be allowed as dark as one wants.

If visibility is a problem, then we should legalise the tinting on peoples sunglasses. Im definate that the tint on sunnies is much darker then 35% tint.

Do you drive around at night with sunglasses on?

Tobey · 13-02-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mattp

Do you drive around at night with sunglasses on?

Don't you? :togo:

**Peuty** · 13-02-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baboon

It is a bit off topic but, but I fully agree with this. Window tint should be allowed as dark as one wants.

If visibility is a problem, then we should legalise the tinting on peoples sunglasses. Im definate that the tint on sunnies is much darker then 35% tint.

Yeah why not, side visibility isn't necessary. Who needs to see out the side windows anyway? Ridiculous law I reckon.

Have you ever actually driven a car before?

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And last time I checked, you can remove sunnies when it starts to get a bit dark.

baboon · 14-02-2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Peuty

Yeah why not, side visibility isn't necessary. Who needs to see out the side windows anyway? Ridiculous law I reckon.

Have you ever actually driven a car before?

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And last time I checked, you can remove sunnies when it starts to get a bit dark.

Ok, point taken. The issue is seeing at night, not daylight. I missed a few replies earlier.

YOOT · 19-02-2009, 04:41 PM

Is it possible to apply tint to a curved surface? Won't it bubble when you follow the bend?

GS608 · 12-02-2009, 04:09 PM

it makes it harder to see out of at night

graham_h · 12-02-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XR-CHIEF

it makes it harder to see out of at night

The film I'm referring to is optically Clear......... not darkened in any way

GS608 · 12-02-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by graham_h

The film I'm referring to is optically Clear......... not darkened in any way

sorry mate, that comment was aimed at SLWXR6, i was assuming he was talking about all tint (side windows darkness).

as for the clear windscreen tint, go for it, if they can't see it then they're not going to even know its on.

olfella · 12-02-2009, 04:51 PM

I for one would be interested to see how you go and if you think it makes any difference.
cheers - Eric

graham_h · 12-02-2009, 04:16 PM

Seems like it'll be fine
According to QLD transport

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/reso..._vehicles2.pdf

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Glazing
(windscreen and windows)
No material or other object is to be located on the
windscreen or windows which will interfere with the
driver’s vision. Tinted windscreens are permitted subject
to the screen having an optical transmission of not less
than 75 per cent for a motor vehicle built after 1971 and
70 per cent for any other vehicle.

_CRUZ_ · 12-02-2009, 04:26 PM

use a sun shade and wear sun glases when driving lol. I have see a few cars tho with the front screen done in New Zealand when i was there, most common is the strip at the top now adays and or the factory blue in side the screen it self.

onfire · 24-01-2011, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by _CRUZ_

use a sun shade and wear sun glases when driving.

You'd think.

dave351cid · 12-02-2009, 06:09 PM

you might need to look up those standards that they have listed on the qld transport site to make sure of legalities.

as far as the tint goes it reads like a good product. 3M has always been at the forfront of technolegy when it comes to new window tint films.
just befor i got out of the industry 3 years ago 3M released a new clear film for flat glass but it was very expencive (over 5 times the price of their regular high performance films). maybe this is the same film ???

one problem you might have is the ability to form the film to curve of the windscreen. to tint rear screens and side windows in a lot of later cars the film is heat molded to suit the curve of the glass. specialised auto tint films are designed to enable this molding process.flat glass films made for buildings are not required to fit curved glass and often cannot be molded to shape without creasing and distortion.

Iggypoppin' · 12-02-2009, 08:02 PM

I stand corrected. Cheers guys

graham_h · 12-02-2009, 08:09 PM

I'll give 3M a call tomorrow and see if it can be applied to a curved surface.
I can't think of any reason why not.
It'll also help when driving in the mid day sun, cutting the heat blasting through the screen.
I'll let you know how I get on.
But, to clarify, I'm not talking about "tinting" the screen
The film is totally clear but cuts out U.V and heat

Cookie-XR8 · 12-02-2009, 08:38 PM

my windscreen is tinted, lol

XRQTR · 12-02-2009, 08:53 PM

I like the sound of this stuff, I hate tinted windows as you can't see who's in the car :evil3:

I prefer windows clear, it just looks so much better especially with a lighter colored interior it's just made to show off.

I rekn they'd have them at places like Tint Professor and some of the other bigger tint mobs but would likely be quite expensive in comparison to the regular tints.

FASTXR · 13-02-2009, 11:46 AM

How about something subtle like this effort we saw in Thailand :hihi:

BlackLS · 13-02-2009, 11:52 AM

Reminds me of Jeremy's "stealth" truck

**Peuty** · 13-02-2009, 06:29 PM

Corey Hart does.

AWD Chaser · 14-02-2009, 12:50 AM

Sorry but its not legal. You cannot appy any film (clear or not) to the windscreen.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati...vsi03_rev3.pdf

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Tinted or opaque band allowed at the top of the windscreen.
It is not to extend below the portion swept by the wipers or 10% of the depth of the windscreen.
No film at all permitted on the lower part of the windscreen.

S_M_I_D_D_Y · 14-02-2009, 01:17 AM

if its clear, and not bubbled or creased, how will anybody know it is there? ;)

**cs123** · 14-02-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Peuty

Corey Hart does.

LOL, good one

cooltint · 14-02-2009, 09:22 PM

While the spec's read very well with regards to performance, it might be good to note that Infra red energy (of which it stops a claimed 97%) is only about half of the solar energy that enters through your glass.

With regards legalities this practice of tinting font screens with very light films has been going on for many years. Back in 1990 I had the front screen of my XD Falcon done in a 65% Vlt film (very light). It was only when I went to the drive-in one night that I realised how much light it actually stopped as the movie screen was made dark as if it was a 'B' grade movie.

As previously posted it is not legal to apply a film however light to any area sweep by the windscreen wipers or a maximum of 10% across the top of the screen.

Unfortunately there are those who will tint your screen as dark as 35% here on the Gold Coast. This is a disaster waiting to happen as you cannot see clearly out of the screen on a clear night let alone a rainy night.

Sooner or later someone will be seriously harmed by this practice so think first before you do something you may regret later.

Big AL

graham_h · 18-02-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltint

While the spec's read very well with regards to performance, it might be good to note that Infra red energy (of which it stops a claimed 97%) is only about half of the solar energy that enters through your glass.

Unfortunately there are those who will tint your screen as dark as 35% here on the Gold Coast. This is a disaster waiting to happen as you cannot see clearly out of the screen on a clear night let alone a rainy night.

Sooner or later someone will be seriously harmed by this practice so think first before you do something you may regret later.

Big AL

I agree proper tinting of the screen is insanely stupid (IMO)
The only reason why I'd want the clear film is because its perfectly clear, thus not presenting a safety hazard at all, and the obvious plus point of reducing heat in the car.
I'm pretty sure the rules and regs were written to stop dark film being applied.
They are also out of date and not up to speed with new tech.
If the film is optically clear and can be proved so, I don't see any possible reason why any authority would object to it.
How do you get products ADR approved ?
Surely this is a product most of us would want ?

Just to keep the thread on topic.
This IS NOT about a dark film "tint". It has no darkness to it. It's CLEAR.
I'll make some calls tomorrow and get some proper answers.
For people to accept this is "illegal" and not question "Why" ? seems silly to me.