Do you think it will happen?

Coogs289 · 13-03-2009, 05:33 PM

Who thinks that eventually P-platers will only be able to drive 4 cylinders??
If so, how long do you think until this will come into affect?

XRSIKS · 13-03-2009, 05:38 PM

I doubt it will happen, they been talking about it for years, and if you think about the taxes and fee's the .gov takes from it, it would be like banning Smokes.... theres too much profit there me thinks.

Besides, if they do it, they can wait till July next year....

**TUF_302** · 13-03-2009, 05:58 PM

It will never happen, you can be just as big a tool in a 4cly as any other car!

XRSIKS · 13-03-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TUF_302

It will never happen, you can be just as big a tool in a 4cly as any other car!

yah, they just throw in a turbo or 2 and an exhaust the size of your head....

Scott · 13-03-2009, 06:07 PM

It doesn't matter how many cylinders you have when you hit a car/tree/pedestrian etc. 4 Bangers will do 100km/h in a 60 zone just like a V8 will.

I also believe that most shenanigans played out in cars happens at relatively low speeds and that the stupid stuff that happens at higher speeds (whilst appalling and un-neccessary) is a minor contributor to the road toll, certainly far less than the stuff that seems to get no coverage at all - like brain farts and complacency.

Not condoning those things, I just think that we are only told about the things that can be fixed by adding another tax or fine.

JACK250 · 13-03-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GTP006

It doesn't matter how many cylinders you have when you hit a car/tree/pedestrian etc. 4 Bangers will do 100km/h in a 60 zone just like a V8 will.

I also believe that most shenanigans played out in cars happens at relatively low speeds and that the stupid stuff that happens at higher speeds (whilst appalling and un-neccessary) is a minor contributor to the road toll, certainly far less than the stuff that seems to get no coverage at all - like brain farts and complacency.

Not condoning those things, I just think that we are only told about the things that can be fixed by adding another tax or fine.

I agree 100%, which is why it annoys me that right now, on my L Plates I can drive a Shelby GT500, when I'm on my P plates I can drive my 2V ute, but not a 260ci American Falcon that has less power than my ute does.

Buzz Box · 13-03-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JACK250

I agree 100%, which is why it annoys me that right now, on my L Plates I can drive a Shelby GT500, when I'm on my P plates I can drive my 2V ute, but not a 260ci American Falcon that has less power than my ute does.

Ahhhhh the joys of government and bureaucracy

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Edit: I still never understand why people expect logic from government......

Coogs289 · 13-03-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JACK250

I agree 100%, which is why it annoys me that right now, on my L Plates I can drive a Shelby GT500, when I'm on my P plates I can drive my 2V ute, but not a 260ci American Falcon that has less power than my ute does.

government= stuffed up much?

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XRSIKS · 13-03-2009, 06:13 PM

I'm a P Plater... i'm also 24, late bloomer, im glad i was, coz i spent my "Hoon" years as a passanger, i also respect the value of a $, and i cant afford to get speeding tickets or neg-driving tickets, nor can i afford to fix my car.... so i dont see the point in driving like a complete tool.

uranium_death · 13-03-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by S&BXR6

I'm a P Plater... i'm also 24, late bloomer, im glad i was, coz i spent my "Hoon" years as a passanger, i also respect the value of a $, and i cant afford to get speeding tickets or neg-driving tickets, nor can i afford to fix my car.... so i dont see the point in driving like a complete tool.

Almost the same as you...I'm 26 mid year and still on my Ps...

The fact is that any car in the hands of an idiot is a weapon. You can kill somebody in a Getz, Prius or a Smart Car.

It's the government trying to apply band-aid treatment, and as we saw with the 'Alcopop Tax', we know how successful applying that principle is.

deesun · 13-03-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by uranium_death

The fact is that any car in the hands of an idiot is a weapon. You can kill somebody in a Getz, Prius or a Smart Car.

Yes but how many, or better still, what percentage do? And the percentages of young people who do are still too high. I believe a higher age will come in before a 4 cylinder limit. These will come about when the 120 hour P platers have had some time to make their mark on the figures.

XRSIKS · 13-03-2009, 07:37 PM

theres lots of fatal and ear fatal accidents each year, the only ones they report on are the P platers , because they know it brings a debate.... good media

ED Ford Falcon · 13-03-2009, 09:08 PM

i would miss my 6 cylinder if the rule came in...:(

XRSIKS · 13-03-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ED Ford Falcon

i would miss my 6 cylinder if the rule came in...:(

My girlfriend needs to get her license, so she can miss her 6 cylinder too

ED Ford Falcon · 13-03-2009, 09:44 PM

normally they say that if the rule came in after you had it in your name your allowed to drive it!

i would be soo annoyed by pimped out corolla's and lazer's if they made 6 cylinders for only black licences

ZDHLANE · 13-03-2009, 10:16 PM

I don't see why they would enforce it. The steps on power adders may be further looked at.

Possibly there next target will be licensing issued on completion of manditary advanced driving courses.

As mentioned, you can still be a fool in a 4cyl :sm_headba

Cheers

XRSIKS · 13-03-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by spinxr

I don't see why they would enforce it. The steps on power adders may be further looked at.

Possibly there next target will be licensing issued on completion of manditary advanced driving courses.

As mentioned, you can still be a fool in a 4cyl :sm_headba

Cheers

I'll do the courses again.... they were great fun the first time

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Late braker · 13-03-2009, 10:53 PM

I don't know whether it will happen but it should...

Motorcyclists have capapcity limits for years after they get their licence- at the moment a 17 yo can get in a V8 or my car (BF XR6) and damage or kill themselves or someone else.

XRSIKS · 13-03-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Late braker

I don't know whether it will happen but it should...

Motorcyclists have capapcity limits for years after they get their licence- at the moment a 17 yo can get in a V8 or my car (BF XR6) and damage or kill themselves or someone else.

You can do the same in a Ford Laser :P or one of them Scooter things :P

If it's not pedal powered... lets ban it :p

Daymoe · 13-03-2009, 11:07 PM

Of course it will come in, the new ones here in Vic banned V8s and tightened up on the power to weight ratio rule, plus ruled out any mods that "increase performance" from engine, meaning exhaust, pod filter etc anything that adds power to it = illegal.

I can't drive the Ford F100 with the tired 351, but I can drive the FG Falcon XR6 with no problems...

No rules on rotaries though, just power to weight. 12A still moves pretty damn quick in a 900KG car stock standard.

IMO the law should be power to weight ratio, end of story, none of this no V8s rule which doesn't make sense. They've specifically banned some 6 cyl cars too, they could just do that for the V8s as well.

I want to find out the exact rules on engine transplants though, I got told before about no its not illegal as long as its under power to weight, but then on another forum, saw if it needs an engineer cert then it makes it illegal? I don't know which is right, I'll have to ring up VicRoads soon.

XRSIKS · 13-03-2009, 11:13 PM

valid point, If i lived in NSW i couldnt buy a V8, but because im in the ACT i can

Daymoe · 13-03-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by S&BXR6

valid point, If i lived in NSW i couldnt buy a V8, but because im in the ACT i can

Funny, the state with all the politicians has the least retarded rules. I want to live in a state where I can buy fireworks, buy good hardcore porn over the counter and drive a V8 car without problems.

Coogs289 · 13-03-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Daymoe

Funny, the state with all the politicians has the least retarded rules. I want to live in a state where I can buy fireworks, buy good hardcore porn over the counter and drive a V8 car without problems.

now that's what i call a state!

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bigdude1011 · 14-03-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Daymoe

Funny, the state with all the politicians has the least retarded rules. I want to live in a state where I can buy fireworks, buy good hardcore porn over the counter and drive a V8 car without problems.

The facts that Labor and the Greens run the place maybe your answer. Anyway, it doesn't stop derros (ACT word for bogan) driving in hektik CE Lancers and VS Commodores (they've moved on from the VNs) with fake spinners and "INJEKT'D" stickers, (http://www.injektd.com.au/home.html) this business is like Ozzy Tyres, NSW residents would know.

XRSIKS · 14-03-2009, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdude1011

The facts that Labor and the Greens run the place maybe your answer. Anyway, it doesn't stop derros (ACT word for bogan) driving in hektik CE Lancers and VS Commodores (they've moved on from the VNs) with fake spinners and "INJEKT'D" stickers, (http://www.injektd.com.au/home.html) this business is like Ozzy Tyres, NSW residents would know.

ROFL, Derros.

I was driving down the parkway on the way to work tonight, and sure enough, flying past me at atleast 130km, because i felt the gust of wind bash my car, a wearing a baseball cap and sunglasses, in a VS Holden, P plates.

Unfortunatly im a target for hoons as i drive a XR6, with P plates.

bigdude1011 · 14-03-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by S&BXR6

ROFL, Derros.

Don't blame me, I'm a 'Bundah student

XRSIKS · 13-03-2009, 11:18 PM

Roflmao, not to mention legal prostitution

XRSIKS · 13-03-2009, 11:19 PM

....not that i know anything about that.....

Coogs289 · 13-03-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by S&BXR6

....not that i know anything about that.....

lol, me either...cough, cough... wink, wink...
back on topic, i think ACT is a good place to live - YOU CAN BUY A V8!

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can anyone list the "restrictions" from every state?

cheers, Anthony

SM1DY · 13-03-2009, 11:23 PM

I think this is an outside shot, yet when you think about it, any car in the hands of an idiot will kill a person or cause a fatality. I spent 3 years cutting my teeth in a 4cyl car and it was outrageously painful after getting out the F100 which I still hate having lost, yet I still think it was the best thing for me. Having a semi-gutless 2.4L 4cyl car kept me from involving myself in pointless drag-offs.

There is no harm in restricting a P plater to a 4 cyl car, I really think that having P plate drivers behind the wheel of HiPo cars leads to an ego contest.

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