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09-08-2009, 12:51 PM
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im driving from sydney to melbourne this week and i currently have my L's (fantastic hours) and in vic im pretty sure theres no 80 rule for learners when so when i cross the border will i be able to go up to the speed limit or still stick to 80? from what i heard ill be allowed to go 110 when in vic because im in their state and so their laws apply.
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09-08-2009, 01:10 PM
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nope you must comply with the conditions of your licence, which means your max is still 80 km/h...
I'm not sying that thats what people do, but thats what they are supposed to do
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09-08-2009, 01:23 PM
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Donut is correct. You must abide by your states licence conditions.
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09-08-2009, 01:26 PM
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80 how horrible that must be peolpe stuck behind you ,you would have to pull over every 5 minutes to let people pass
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09-08-2009, 01:34 PM
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Seems kind of dangerous at 80. Far easier to fall asleep, further fatigues you by adding 3 hours to the trip time, and can irritate less patient motorists where dual carriage way does not exist and encourage unsafe overtaking.
Never quite understood the 80 rule. You're going to get people flying past at 120km/h at least on the NSW side. How is that supposed to be safer or a good learning experience? |
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09-08-2009, 01:37 PM
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80kmh on the Hume. That's more of a safety hindrance than moving at the same speed as the rest of the traffic flow.
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09-08-2009, 02:12 PM
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Isn't most of the Hume limited to 80km/h anyway?? Esp on the NSW side.
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09-08-2009, 02:33 PM
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Lots of roadworks at the mo, so 80K won't cause any concern there, dual carriage way most of the rest of the way, very few single lane 100K areas, I don't see a problem, keep your eye in the rear view and have fun
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09-08-2009, 02:34 PM
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the safest place to do 110 and you cant do it.
70 down parramatta rd in peak hour is surely safer (sarcastic) than doing 110 on the hume!! What a joke. |
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09-08-2009, 02:51 PM
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I would suggest that you would need to stick to the rules of the permit you hold, regardless of what state/ territory you are in. That said, that 80km/h rule is a joke, so what, they say you need to practice in all conditions, rain, night, sunrise/set but oh no, you can't do the limit in the freeways? What a joke.
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09-08-2009, 03:00 PM
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Avoid the major roads and take the back country roads, and you can go 80km/h without annoying anyone, and enjoy the scenery too...
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11-08-2009, 07:20 PM
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12-08-2009, 06:57 AM
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13-08-2009, 12:24 PM
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13-08-2009, 12:40 PM
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09-08-2009, 03:16 PM
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This is a very grey area. I'm not long off my P's and my younger siblings have just gotten off their L's. Apparently the legal is that you are required to abide by the laws of the state your are in. In Vic that means doing the state speed limit. Best bet is just phone vic roads or the rta to double check.
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09-08-2009, 04:45 PM
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Victorian Police do NOT have the authority to book you for breaking NSW road law whilst you are in Victoria, other law maybe, like murder, but even then it is by extradition. People really shouldn't comment unless they know this stuff for fact and I do.
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09-08-2009, 03:19 PM
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is a learners permit like a license that is reconised aust wide ??
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09-08-2009, 04:31 PM
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Learners permit is not a permit. Its a license. The same as a full license or provisional license. You must adhear to your state laws where the license is issued. Do us all a favour, stay of the single lane 100km roads... |
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09-08-2009, 04:39 PM
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Take a plane instead.
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09-08-2009, 04:42 PM
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I can guarentee that when in Victoria, do as the Victorian do.
When driving in Victoria you are required to drive to Victorian law. This means that as an L Plater you can do 100km/h, and 110 on the freeways. The people above are wrong if they tell you differently. I have been a driver trainer for over 20 years. There is no legal requirement for you to do 80km/h in Victoria, they can't book you for exceeding that as there is no law in Victoria that dictates that you must comply with 80 km/h whilst on L Plates. All the licence requirements stuff is boloney, it does not apply, people can bleat on about it all they want, just ring Vicroads and they will tell you that I am right.
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09-08-2009, 05:17 PM
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Sounds very logical what Big Trev said.
However I think you should be very careful driving long hours continuously if you are on learners and haven't driven much. The concentration level would be very high, and any lapse can be disastrous, especially if something unexpected comes up suddenly. I think thats one reason for many P-platers coming to grief, going for long drives soon after gaining their licence. Last edited by Silver Ghia; 09-08-2009 at 05:29 PM. |
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09-08-2009, 05:22 PM
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big trev is correct.
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09-08-2009, 05:59 PM
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If its a condition of the permit then it would not matter what state the driver is in.
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09-08-2009, 07:08 PM
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VicPol do NOT have the authority, they are not NSW Police, so they do NOT have the authority under legislation to enforce NSW law, if they did, then all State Police are redundant and we would be covered by Federal Road Law which we aren't. We have National Road 'Rules', but these are enacted by each State. Sorry you are wrong.
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09-08-2009, 06:20 PM
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he could get fined for driving too slow in victoria and get fined for speeding in victoria via nsw therefore losing points on nsw licence while paying victorian fines then paying nsw for fines issued in vic unless he didnt pay those vic fines then victoria wouldn't chase him for them then rta cant make him lose points in nsw in which case he has no case to answer unless ofcourse an nsw copper pulls him over in victoria but then the vic cops will pull over the nsw cops and a punch on (vic cops would win) would happen over where the fine money goes and then undebelly 10 would have been released.
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09-08-2009, 07:12 PM
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10-08-2009, 08:41 PM
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09-08-2009, 06:33 PM
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i believe the you learn nothing on the hwy,(most of us can drive in a strait line) stay in town and learn better driving technique
cheers tony
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09-08-2009, 06:53 PM
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what about going the other way?
i heard that when i drove down to the tweed boarder i have to stick to a max of 90 (on red p's) but i've driven at the limit and past cops never been pulled up. seems a bit grey, QLD p-platers wouldn't know NSW p plater laws, therefore would drive the limit. |
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