Rego Labels - why do we bother

Elks · 01-11-2009, 10:08 PM

So I ws out in the shed tonight putting yet another new registration label on the TS50 and I thought, as I have on many previous occasions, why do we bother with these things?

The label arrives 6 weeks before it's due (at least here in Vic.) and as is required i've stuck it to the car. I wont pay the reg until the week before it's due. So the label doesn't prove the car is registered. If the cops pull you over, they would go online to see that reg is up to date. They do not trust the sticker, so they don't need it. Other than giving the local police something to ping you for not having.

They must spend millions printing these things, So what is there real purpose??

Discuss.

charlie200 · 01-11-2009, 10:14 PM

IN N.S.W your receipt number and paid date is printed on your rego label,so it cant be stuck on till its paid.
Seem strange that you guys dont do that as you said it would be a pain for the police to check.

XR Martin · 01-11-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie200

IN N.S.W your receipt number and paid date is printed on your rego label,so it cant be stuck on till its paid.
Seem strange that you guys dont do that as you said it would be a pain for the police to check.

Err, you do realise you can pay it online dont you?(and have been able to do so for many years) And obviously when doing so it doesn't print out the receipt number on the label.

Pretty sure I heard that WA is doing away with labels soon? (EDIT: Beaten by a minute)

charlie200 · 02-11-2009, 06:50 PM

Deleted... already answered.

Rodp · 02-11-2009, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie200

IN N.S.W your receipt number and paid date is printed on your rego label,so it cant be stuck on till its paid.
Seem strange that you guys dont do that as you said it would be a pain for the police to check.

Obviously someone who doesn't know you can pay online... :P

I haven't had any details printed on my rego label for years after a renewal.

What I do find annoying, in the case of my last 2 new cars, if a rego label doesn't even arrive for your new car you have to pay $15 for them to print another one!

Zedjay · 02-11-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

Obviously someone who doesn't know you can pay online... :P

I haven't had any details printed on my rego label for years after a renewal.

What I do find annoying, in the case of my last 2 new cars, if a rego label doesn't even arrive for your new car you have to pay $15 for them to print another one!

i pay mine online too... i was told by the RTA to write the recept # on the sticker and then stick it to the screen..

then the new one turns up in about a week or you can call into any RTA with the recept# and they will print you one on the spot for free

T3man · 02-11-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie200

IN N.S.W your receipt number and paid date is printed on your rego label,so it cant be stuck on till its paid.
Seem strange that you guys dont do that as you said it would be a pain for the police to check.

NO, not if you pay online - there is nothing on the label to verify that the car is registered and it can only be checked by the police onboard computer.

Elks> exactly right. Why should we motorists pay for the cost of printing an irrelevant item? Oh that's right; because we are dumb enough to accept being bent over by the RTA and, as a group, we don't have a "voice" and therefore no power at election time.

MustangNut · 04-11-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie200

IN N.S.W your receipt number and paid date is printed on your rego label,so it cant be stuck on till its paid.
Seem strange that you guys dont do that as you said it would be a pain for the police to check.

I pay my rego online and you only need to record the receipt number on the rego certificate, not the sticker - In NSW.

**SSD-85** · 01-11-2009, 10:16 PM

You don't get your rego sticker til you have paid for it up here in QLD. Seems a bit more sensible IMO....

**Silver Ghia** · 01-11-2009, 10:16 PM

Good point Elks, these stickers have become replaceable onto different windscreens over the years. I suppose with the recent system of having the car chassis number visible inside and under the windscreen can make it apparent straight away that the rego belongs to the car, but on older cars its pretty useless IMO.

Long gone the days when you had to soak the sticker off with a wet tissue and gladwrap, getting water all over the dashboard.

XR Martin · 01-11-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

Good point Elks, these stickers have become replaceable onto different windscreens over the years. I suppose with the recent system of having the car chassis number visible inside and under the windscreen can make it apparent straight away that the rego belongs to the car, but on older cars its pretty useless IMO.

Long gone the days when you had to soak the sticker off with a wet tissue and gladwrap, getting water all over the dashboard.

No gladwrap back then mate!

**Silver Ghia** · 01-11-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

No gladwrap back then mate!

I'm not that old, LOL!! My father scraped it off with a razor back in the 50's and 60's, which was how I did it before discovering the wet tissue and gladwrap trick.

jmack · 01-11-2009, 11:09 PM

as you say they are a total waist of time the cops do check online anyway.i dont bother putting them on anymore cars dont come out enough to warrant the hassle .my el still has the one from 98 on it.i think its more like 2 months bfore its due they send it out now,they must think we r stupid enough to pay befor its due.and while we are talking about rego why do we have to pay tac on every rego can only drive one car at a time and that is usually a company car and if anyting happened can only claim once .they r making a fortune off me per year 4 car regos,bike ,boat and 2 trailors .

Bud Bud · 02-11-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

I'm not that old, LOL!! My father scraped it off with a razor back in the 50's and 60's, which was how I did it before discovering the wet tissue and gladwrap trick.

Yeh what a mess it used to make. You could never get the bits out from between the glass and the dash. HQ's were the worst!

Is there an ADR requirement for manufactures to display the VIN number under the windscreen? If no, why not? If there is then why don't they phase out stickers for a number plate/VIN check against a data base with just a receipt that the driver keeps in the glove box.

Would probably save thousands and I would of thought that the technology would exist to do this by now. It would be greener as well!

VICFPV · 02-11-2009, 12:32 PM

I hate them.
They peel off after some time and then you get ping for them at the rbt because there was nothing else they can get you for.
Its a $84 fine in NSW without losing points.
Wish there was a better way other then the stickers.

kenz · 01-11-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Elks

The label arrives 6 weeks before it's due (at least here in Vic.) and as is required i've stuck it to the car. I wont pay the reg until the week before it's due. So the label doesn't prove the car is registered.

In Qld they dont send the label out until the rego gets paid. So it can end up being the opposite to your situation. I can pay my rego the day its due so my new label ends up arriving 3+wks after the old one has expired

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They were talking about getting rid of them here a few months back and it actually would save a couple million $. You probably pulled that number outa the air but its pretty accurate

**SSD-85** · 01-11-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kenz

In Qld they dont send the label out until the rego gets paid. So it can end up being the opposite to your situation. I can pay my rego the day its due so my new label ends up arriving 3+wks after the old one has expired

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They were talking about getting rid of them here a few months back and it actually would save a couple million $. You probably pulled that number outa the air but its pretty accurate

At least if you show the cop that pulled you over the receipt saying youve paid it and are just waiting on the sticker they generally let you off....

zdcol71 · 05-11-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Scotty85

At least if you show the cop that pulled you over the receipt saying youve paid it and are just waiting on the sticker they generally let you off....

Not sure what you would be doing wrong for them to "let you off", let alone "generally " There's no offence if you are paid up with rego and waiting on the sticker if you are carrying the reciept.
QLD at least, and the sticker must be lower LH front windscreen, or curb side fixed window.

**Silver Ghia** · 01-11-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kenz

In Qld they dont send the label out until the rego gets paid. So it can end up being the opposite to your situation. I can pay my rego the day its due so my new label ends up arriving 3+wks after the old one has expired

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That used to be the system here in Vic years ago, when they had the transfers. Then they had the system where it got stamped and initialled at a bank when you paid it. But now it doesnt require any stamp or initials. So with the current system they must believe it doesnt prove anything.

Also here in Vic the size of the sticker seems to have grown to something that is about a third of the height of my MGB windscreen. Perhaps getting rid of it would then help visibility. I think in Qld you put it in the RH rear side window, which would be a better place than the windscreen which is required in Vic.

**SSD-85** · 01-11-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

That used to be the system here in Vic years ago, when they had the transfers. Then they had the system where it got stamped and initialled at a bank when you paid it. But now it doesnt require any stamp or initials. So with the current system they must believe it doesnt prove anything.

Also here in Vic the size of the sticker seems to have grown to something that is about the third of the height of my MGB windscreen. Perhaps getting rid of it would then help visibility. I think in Qld you put it in the RH rear side window, which would be a better place than the windscreen which is required in Vic.

Yep, its either RH lower windshield. Or rear RH passenger quarter glass. I have noticed as of late some people think it's cool to have it all diagonal in the RH corner....

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Scareybear · 02-11-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Scotty85

Yep, its either RH lower windshield. Or rear RH passenger quarter glass. I have noticed as of late some people think it's cool to have it all diagonal in the RH corner....

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That would be LH side...

Rubidium · 02-11-2009, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

I think in Qld you put it in the RH rear side window, which would be a better place than the windscreen which is required in Vic.

You can put it on the side in vic, it says so on the label sheet even.

**Silver Ghia** · 02-11-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubidium

You can put it on the side in vic, it says so on the label sheet even.

Just checked the directions on the renewal that I got a couple of weeks ago, it does say to "place the label on the inside of the windscreen at the bottom left hand corner. The label may also be fitted to a fixed window on the left side of the vehicle."

Looks like they changed it at some time, as you never used to be able to put it on the rear quarter window, which is now where its going to go on the BA when its due in a couple of months (Vicroads does like sending these renewals early!!)

Looks like it will have to stay on the MGB windscreen however, there is no fixed side window, only the quarter vent window which hinges, which was where people used to put their labels when quarter vent windows were common.

Here is a link to an article that was in the Age newspaper back in 2006, which highlights the problems with the Vicroads registration renewal and labelling system.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...778811505.html

What have Vicroads done about it in the three or so years since the ombudsmans report? Nothing. They seem to have been more interested in updating their logo.

jason71 · 02-11-2009, 01:39 PM

In NSW there is no need to write the receipt number on your rego label.

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Do I need a receipt number on my rego label?

When you have successfully completed your registration online or by phone, you will be issued with a renewal receipt number. Write the number in black ink on the space provided on your Certificate of Registration. It is not necessary to write the number on your registration label. The RTA does not send out a receipted Certificate of Registration or label.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati.../rego_faq.html

Geez Louise · 01-11-2009, 10:41 PM

I was talking to a friend the other day discussing rego stickers as mine was coming off (as they do) and he was saying that he has heard that the govt is thinking of trialing a new registration tag that sits on your license plate and can be read similar to an etag.

Has anyone else heard this?

MustangNut · 04-11-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Geez Louise

I was talking to a friend the other day discussing rego stickers as mine was coming off (as they do) and he was saying that he has heard that the govt is thinking of trialing a new registration tag that sits on your license plate and can be read similar to an etag.

Has anyone else heard this?

The yanks have been doing this for decades. Years back when I brought a Mustang into Oz the California plates had a little sticker with the tax year on it that placed in the centre of the plate where we have the hyphen.

XCGS351 · 01-11-2009, 10:46 PM

The W.A. Governmnet were looking to do away the rego stickers next year to save $$$. Not sure if that's a definate thing but it would be good if it is. In this modern age I don't think we really need one.

LTDHO · 01-11-2009, 11:06 PM

You're not allowed to put the sticker on until it's paid.
At a glace the officer can see if you have the recent one on your car.

mac_man_luke · 01-11-2009, 11:15 PM

In SA you only get a rego sticker after you have paid...

bluestreak · 01-11-2009, 11:17 PM

WA doing something useful first for a change? Only because they can save money.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...rom=public_rss

Be good not to have to scrape these off my windsceen anymore, but I wish I'd heard about this before I just stuck my new 12 month rego sticker on.

Cheers