New South Wales rego hike.

[vztrt]

http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/a...0304-pl3d.html

A rather weighty tax issue

MATT CAMPBELL AND DANIEL DASEY
March 8, 2010

It just doesn't seem fair.

The state government recently announced it planned to slug motorists up to $30 more on their registration if their vehicle weighed more than 975 kilograms.

The so-called weight tax is to apply to all vehicles, with the exception of hybrids in a nod to their smaller environmental impact.

All good in theory but it emerges a V8 limousine and a supercharged V6 four-wheel-drive are among several high-performance beasts dodging the tax because they have hybrid capacity.

First up is the Porsche Cayenne Hybrid S, a two-tonne-plus 4WD and one of the fastest off-roaders on the market. It is joined by the Lexus LS600hL - a V8-powered hybrid weighing almost twice as much as a Toyota Corolla and delivering the performance of a V12.

While the Porsche and the Lexus offer significant fuel savings compared with cars of similar performance, they are thirstier than dozens of budget small cars that will be slugged with the new weight tax.

The tax is specifically designed to fund the $50 billion transport plan that was created to fix NSW's sub-standard public transport and clogged roads.

[XR6_661]

How much does the rego cost already?

Something like 800 for 12 months in QLD.

[Falcon Coupe]

Wouldn't it be more of an incentive to give a rego discount to those weighing under 975 kilograms.

I suspect there is an ulterior motive using the "Green Screen" as protection.....

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Wouldn't it be more of an incentive to give a rego discount to those weighing under 975 kilograms.

I suspect there is an ulterior motive using the "Green Screen" as protection.....

I reckon 98% of cars on the road would weight more than 975kg. How many cars in the state 3 million?

Oh, and the legislation with its loopholes already sounds as well drafted as the P plate restricted vehicle list. Rather poorly.

[cs123]

The cars that slurp fuel pay for it at the bowser.

[NC1183]

All to fix roads in Sydney!

What about out here, you know, where all your food is grown, and the material that makes the clothes on your back. You know, the regional areas of NSW that need bigger cars ie 4x4's to get between properties, esp in the wet, like now, and that are more comfortable and safer to travel in while travelling the big distances we have to travel.

[deesun]

Originally Posted by NC1183

What about out here, you know, where all your food is grown, and the material that makes the clothes on your back. You know, the regional areas of NSW that need bigger cars ie 4x4's to get between properties, esp in the wet, like now, and that are more comfortable and safer to travel in while travelling the big distances we have to travel.

And you do that in your Cayene or Lexus hybrid claimed as a tax deduction on your farm?
I thought we used to get a weight tax added to the rego years and years ago and then they just decided to call it all one thing REGO.

My sons MX6 rego is $254 this year my Bluebird rego is $285 this year up only $10 from last year and I can't find the xr6 papers. Both these within a month of each other so why is one different to the other? Weight tax which isn't shown? Its the insurance that kills. My Bluebird is $332 and thats just the compulsory green slip not the third party.

[NC1183]

Originally Posted by deesun

And you do that in your Cayene or Lexus hybrid claimed as a tax deduction on your farm?
I thought we used to get a weight tax added to the rego years and years ago and then they just decided to call it all one thing REGO.

My sons MX6 rego is $254 this year my Bluebird rego is $285 this year up only $10 from last year and I can't find the xr6 papers. Both these within a month of each other so why is one different to the other? Weight tax which isn't shown? Its the insurance that kills. My Bluebird is $332 and thats just the compulsory green slip not the third party.

Get a grip, i think in total there are three hybrid cars out this way, all of them Prius' and all owned by council. All the 4x4's are decent ones, ie. Landcrusiers, or Patrol wagons, with work utes ranging from Rangers to Landcrusiers.

[pertuan]

This hike is a croc. Decades of incompetence and the NSW public are left to pick up the bill. We're not some endless ATM that dispenses money at will!!!

[FGII-XR6]

the NSW government are doing as they please because they know they are history at the next election. I'm not trying to politcise the issue I't just that they are lower than a snakes belly in the polls and some polls indicate a landslide of historic proportion so they may as well get unpopular leglislation through that suits their ideals seeing as they have nothing to loose

[Giant Cranium]

and the thing that really annoys me is that the hybrids work out worse for the enviroment in the long run but they get all these exemptions.

[calais]

Originally Posted by captain awesome

and the thing that really annoys me is that the hybrids work out worse for the enviroment in the long run but they get all these exemptions.

I hear you, It's a damn shame Joe Average doesn't think of the whole-of-life impact of these supposed enviro-friendly cars. If the truth were made public, I don't believe this Hybrid-mania would last too much longer.

[SM1DY]

Now unless they're paying $1007 a year to register their cars in NSW, it's still better than QLD

[SLO AU XR8]

NSW are saying $30 is a Hike, far out, what QLD got last year was a hike. We copped a $200+ jump in our Rego. I payed $775 last year to register my XR8 for a year, it is now $989 This renewal.

[Kamshaaft]

I'm almost considering registering my car in Victoria, as I'm not that far away. On the othe hand, that would mean my car would be registered in Victoria.

Tangent: I remember driving through the middle of Australia there were local's cars registered in Victoria and further on, in Metropolitan Perth - even though both of the areas I spotted these cars was in SA! I believe it has something to do with working for an inter/multistate company

[FPV+fteT3]

I dont even know why the gov't bother trying to justify any hike in anything seems everytime any bill comes in it is more than last time. Most people have given up on expecting respective governments to deliver on anything we will pay more and public transport wont change it will still suck. They need the money to cover the costs of private businesses suing the govt for cancelling winning bids to fix the problems so now we will pay millions for nothing. :

[banarcus]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Originally Posted by banarcus

I'd say now is a good time for the division of New South Wales. I'm sick of my money going into these grand Sydney projects for Sydney people. Grand Sydney ideas of harvesting water from the Hunter Valley(Tillegra Dam) to supply the Central Coast and metropolitan Sydney with water at Hunter Valley farmers' expense. A Sydney based government that has taken control of mining royalties that once went to local government where the actual mines exist. A NSW government who cares little for those outside metropolitan Sydney. It wont change when the Libs get handed government.

I remember Kevin Rudd saying something about slowly taking control of essential services off state governments with the eventual abolition of state government in Australia. If we cannot secede from NSW, then perhaps the Feds can dissolve NSW.

I know that people west of the Great Divide say that all the money goes to Newcastle-Sydney-Wollongong but that isn't the truth. People here in the Hunter are being ripped off too. Actually, people here in the Hunter once had a chance to join the proposed new state of New England but declined to jump ship. I'm sure we would love the opportunity now....

The Sydney centric ideas of NSW Labor is unacceptable to those who don't live in Sydney. This is yet another kick in the guts.

[Kamshaaft]

Originally Posted by banarcus

I've said it before and I'll say it again.





The Sydney centric ideas of NSW Labor is unacceptable to those who don't live in Sydney. This is yet another kick in the guts.

I'm afraid it doesn't seem to matter who the government is, as long as it has a central focus, anyone outside is getting royally screwed. How about time to make concessions for those who aren't living in the smoke?

What do the people in the city do for those in the sticks? Please let me know!

How about for taxes such as those used for trains, buses, and other infrastructure seldom seen outside the capital cities there is a series of rings drawn - like the rings of a tree but fewer and more spread out - emanating from the CBD, which dictate how much % extra or less those people should pay for infrastructure taxes and the like. ******** the city focused 'state' governments.

[AWD Chaser]

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http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11289252

[csv8]

Don't give Captain Bligh any more ideas for ripping motorists off...

[ltd]

Geez, Tripodi's ************ could have avoided this entirely had they not just spent 300 million on compensation for the Sydney Metro (which no one except the luvvies and the latte set would have used). Again, motorists get slugged (new point to point cameras being rolled out) because of the corruption, incompetence and largesse of the RTA and NSW government. Slightly O/T, but I love how our electricity (which went up 20-30% last July) already has an ETS in it. Be prepared for the 20% increase this year too.

[Whitey Ford]

Sweet, our 'grocery getter' weighs 935kgs

Are they going by the manufacturer quoted weight or will they actually weigh cars? Wonder if I could strip 1500kgs out of the Territory and get them both under 975kgs.

[deesun]

Originally Posted by Whitey Ford

Sweet, our 'grocery getter' weighs 935kgs

Oh theres some great wife jokes there but I'm leaving them alone. :evil3: