Whats wrong with BBQ fuel prices

barra265t · 23-03-2010, 04:10 PM

Why has BBQ fuel suddenly crept over the 64c mark all over Melbourne, not to mention the ripoff merchants selling it for 67c?

: Lots of ppl having BBQ's leading up to easter or what. Any cent paid for gas is too much, its just a waste product. Having lots of fun looking out for servos that sell for less than 60c.

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||| · 23-03-2010, 04:20 PM

thats why i have a wood fired bbq

barra265t · 23-03-2010, 04:21 PM

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thats why i have a wood fired bbq

haha, my only alternative is petrol. My 'BBQ' has 4 wheels, a turbo 6 and ford badge

**Professor Farnsworth** · 23-03-2010, 04:39 PM

not a waste product, a biproduct.. but yes i'm equally as frustrated. Was filling at 48 cents for ages, now i'm lucky to get it under 60, most of the time 65.

sgt_doofey · 23-03-2010, 04:51 PM

LPG Pricing Facts

uranium_death · 23-03-2010, 05:01 PM

Since when did BBQ fuel link with automotive chat?

barra265t · 23-03-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by uranium_death

Since when did BBQ fuel link with automotive chat?

Ever since fords started running on LPG.. which is BBQ fuel isnt it

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uranium_death · 23-03-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by barra265t

Ever since fords started running on LPG.. which is BBQ fuel isnt it

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Wouldn't the LPG going through your car be refined slightly differently?

jpd80 · 23-03-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by uranium_death

Wouldn't the LPG going through your car be refined slightly differently?

Same thing.

PoweredByCNG · 23-03-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Same thing.

Nope. The stuff they fill your BBQ bottles up with is 100% propane. The stuff you fill your car with is 'Autogas' - a blend of propane and butane.

jpd80 · 23-03-2010, 05:23 PM

Rudd is holding back on tax reform submission, I bet one of the tax reforms is
the increased fuel excise on LPG to 38.5 cents/litre now that everyone ran out
and converted their cars with government subsidy.

ya get nuttin' for nuttin'

Mr Hardware · 23-03-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Rudd is holding back on tax reform submission, I bet one of the tax reforms is
the increased fuel excise on LPG to 38.5 cents/litre now that everyone ran out
and converted their cars with government subsidy.

ya get nuttin' for nuttin'

No, the excise is going to be capped at 12.5cpl not 38.5cpl

**Professor Farnsworth** · 23-03-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by uranium_death

Since when did BBQ fuel link with automotive chat?

BBQ Fuel is the colloquial way of referring to LPG powered bangers

Iggypoppin' · 23-03-2010, 07:43 PM

why is there an excise on any fuel at all, the government has no contribution to the manufacture, distribution or sale of the product, yet taxes it heavily...

jpd80 · 23-03-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

why is there an excise on any fuel at all, the government has no contribution to the manufacture, distribution or sale of the product, yet taxes it heavily...

Because the community wants roads, schools and Medicare.

Iggypoppin' · 23-03-2010, 07:55 PM

i thought, could be wrong, that our registration, school fees(to public schools) and taxes paid for those items...

jpd80 · 23-03-2010, 07:57 PM

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i thought, could be wrong, that our registration, school fees(to public schools) and taxes paid for those items...

They only go part way, the cost of running services is horrendous.
Just ask the politicians, they are the ones making all the promises.

Anyways, there's a lot of scary stuff coming in that tax reform document....

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No, the excise is going to be capped at 12.5cpl not 38.5cpl

And you believe them...

vztrt · 23-03-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

school fees(to public schools)

They're voluntary and nothing even if you do pay, compared to the amount of money required run a school.

Iggypoppin' · 23-03-2010, 08:02 PM

i agree, i guess i concede...my gripe then is with the ridiculous expenses the pollies get(funded by us!) they squander our money like it's free. if there was a better strategy in place to ensure the money was spent better, then i bet things like rego hikes, fuel taxes and the like might....just....dissapear...

agree on your post above though

ratter · 23-03-2010, 08:09 PM

Maybe the fuel companies now realise that with liquid LPG injection, LPG is now a performance fuel

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irish2 · 23-03-2010, 08:43 PM

For those of you who care propane and butane are odourless. An odorant is added in the production phase so you know when you are about to go boom!

sgt_doofey · 23-03-2010, 08:46 PM

Only time it'll go boom is if it is poorly maintained. Been driving on LPG for just over 10 years now. Saved a bucket load of cash using it. I can remember when it cost less than $15 to fill up. Now, I'm pushing about $35 each fill which sees me through nearly 500kms.

irish2 · 23-03-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sgt_doofey

Only time it'll go boom is if it is poorly maintained. Been driving on LPG for just over 10 years now. Saved a bucket load of cash using it. I can remember when it cost less than $15 to fill up. Now, I'm pushing about $35 each fill which sees me through nearly 500kms.

Will go boom between 2%-9% in atmosphere. I wasn't referring to cars in particular.

last fairlane · 23-03-2010, 11:10 PM

Hi all
just reading the posts here
for years as a kid I used to watch the flames coming out of the chimneys at the refinery now of course we all know its LPG thats just wasted
back in 1988 I drove an EA cab and the fuel was 17cents per litre
but if you happened to run out of fuel you rang the cab company and they would send out a BBQ bottle of LPG to get you going
(all the correct fittings of course)
also the government at the time sold a sh't load of LPG to China at 2 cents per litre and bragged in the paper about what a good deal they had swung with the Chinese
so now we are now 20 0dd years later and paying anywhere from 62 to 68 cents per litre
any way just whinging about prices My AU Fairmont with dual fuel goes great I love it I have had it since 2003 and and still is half the cost of petrol to run
John

**Full Noise** · 24-03-2010, 08:59 PM

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for years as a kid I used to watch the flames coming out of the chimneys at the refinery now of course we all know its LPG thats just wasted

Not quite. What you’ve seen is a butane flare. Butane, by its nature is a very low pressure gas, however, it still has to be regulated, that’s why they burn off the excess.

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Originally Posted by last fairlane

back in 1988 I drove an EA cab and the fuel was 17cents per litre but if you happened to run out of fuel you rang the cab company and they would send out a BBQ bottle of LPG to get you going
(all the correct fittings of course)

Correct fittings? Hmmmm.

**Full Noise** · 23-03-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by irish2

For those of you who care propane and butane are odourless. An odorant is added in the production phase so you know when you are about to go boom!

That gas is called methyl mercaptan. Smells like rotten cabbages. They don’t always put the odorant in during production. sometimes it’s transported unodorised.