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View Poll Results: the bast of a bad situation. What would you drive for an everyday car?
would you drive a FWD Falcon 7 5.26%
would you continue to drive an older RWD Ford 89 66.92%
would you drive a RWD Holden 20 15.04%
would you drive an SUV 4WD (+ subaru) 11 8.27%
would you drive any other FWD vehicle. 6 4.51%
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Old 02-06-2010, 09:52 AM   #1
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Default The best of a bad situation

If the Falcon no longer came out in RWD and and you only had the following choices, what would you choose?

This is for your everyday car only.

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Old 02-06-2010, 09:55 AM   #2
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I would still have my BA xr8
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Old 02-06-2010, 10:16 AM   #3
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I'd pull down my XR6 wagon.... get my hands on F6 running gear.... and keep it forever....
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Old 02-06-2010, 10:17 AM   #4
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What about any other RWD vehicle?
There are other RWD cars apart from Holden and Ford you know?
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Id take a new Holden, probably a calais v8 v with the 20s!
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Id take a new Holden, probably a calais v8 v with the 20s!
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Number 2 for me...

Doesnt really concern me what they do with the Falcon, i still have the XA Coupe, and that is the last 2WD car i will be buying anyhow.....
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to be honest i dont reckon a lot of your average 'mum and dad' falcon/commodore owners would be able to tell the difference between fwd and rwd in a large modern average family car...
obviously towing will highlight the differences, but for your daily commute/school run i dont reckon it would make a bit of difference either way.
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to be honest i dont reckon a lot of your average 'mum and dad' falcon/commodore owners would be able to tell the difference between fwd and rwd in a large modern average family car...
obviously towing will highlight the differences, but for your daily commute/school run i dont reckon it would make a bit of difference either way.
I didn't think so either, but my missus hated an Accord Euro we had. Hated the hard parking and turning circle.
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Id stick with my EL XR8, bugger FWD!
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Always have been a rear wheel Ford driver - won't be changing should the inevitable occur.
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How about other options like:

Other RWD vehicle (plenty of RWD euros in the Falcon price range, Merc, BMW etc with the odd yank tank or Japanese/Korean/Chinese rocket)
Other AWD vehicle (plenty of AWDs in the Falcon price range, Audi, VW etc as well as the above)
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How about other options like:

Other RWD vehicle (plenty of RWD euros in the Falcon price range, Merc, BMW etc with the odd yank tank or Japanese/Korean/Chinese rocket)
Other AWD vehicle (plenty of AWDs in the Falcon price range, Audi, VW etc as well as the above)
What sorta merc or bmw do you get for 50 kay?? LOL...
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yeh i'd probably look at an STI or EVO as another option.. love a small turbo car, the WRX we used to have was one of the most fun cars ive ever driven..



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either an old AMG or top of the range thats gonna cost a fortune in parts etc or something sloooooooooow haha..

actually my old mans got an 08-09 C220 diesel which was about 60-70k and goes pretty decently for an oil burner... thats one that i'd consider
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I vote 1.. For park anywhere, cheap to run, no one will touch, $800 POS Laser's....
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I vote 1.. For park anywhere, cheap to run, no one will touch, $800 POS Laser's....
Yes they will.

I had a KB laser destroyed by kids jumping all over it and smashing the glass with bricks last year.
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Yes they will.

I had a KB laser destroyed by kids jumping all over it and smashing the glass with bricks last year.
must've been after your tweety bird seat covers....
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would drive a euro (audi rs4, M3 or c63amg) and change it over a lot less often, or i would buy the senator and change every 3 or so years
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I'd drive an FG turbo of some kind, then probably switch to a HSV... never want a large FWD sedan !!!

would defo go euro if i could afford it, proper euro like AMG M power RS audi etc.,. but then again i wouldnt own a ford if I had that sort of coin.. maybe a 500rwkw FG F6 as a daily bunky hahah
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this is the old valiant argument over again. I'm sure everyone can think of an old man who hung on to his 1979 regal ('i'll never drive anything else!') until the early nineties when it was just too old, then conceded defeat and bought a vn or some such.
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Would keep my BF or buy an FG, but failing that i would then probably fall back to the circled lion, SS or similiar.
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If the Falcon ever went FWD, im sure there would be an AWD option so that hi-po variants could still be produced.
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Old 02-06-2010, 12:49 PM   #23
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FWD focus already is a semi daily and has been relatively faultless plenty of stick in xr5 guise rather agile good breaks and all the bells and whistles, the only time we had a problem with it is when the wife loaded the rear of it with wall tiles recently I begged her to take the falcon but she was determine to take the focus, and it had no problem holding the weight or pulling it or stopping it - the problem it did have was a case of the "wobbles" the rear of it wobbled around at 100kph so to keep it safe had to drive slower, to prove the point I loaded same load in falcon and went down highway at 110kmh (speed limit here) and it despite dropping the rear a little was able to move the weight with no wobbles or other incidences, I can see if one needs to tow or carry heavy loads the focus or some other fwd variant is likely not suitable for the reasons above, I will always have a RWD car of some variant for those times that you just need to move something heavy or to tow something, and whats more given what I have highlighted above a FWD falcon utility loaded up bricklayer style would be interesting to drive to say the least
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If the Falcon ever went FWD, im sure there would be an AWD option so that hi-po variants could still be produced.
personally, I'd love one but I don't think we'll ever see an AWD falcon.

people wouldn't buy it due to the cost.
same reason most people buy the RWD Territory?

mums and dads with a mortgage and kids will continue to buy what they're buying now ...softroaders and FWD
If they do do a hipo, it may be a FWD version (like the Aurion).
Again, Ford will find out the hard way that Aussies like RWD in their big family cars.

The day (in 5-10 generations!) where no-one remembers the Hoey!, that's when FWD will eventually become embedded into the young male phyche and become cool...
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personally, I'd love one but I don't think we'll ever see an AWD falcon.

people wouldn't buy it due to the cost.
same reason most people buy the RWD Territory?

mums and dads with a mortgage and kids will continue to buy what they're buying now ...softroaders and FWD
If they do do a hipo, it may be a FWD version (like the Aurion).
Again, Ford will find out the hard way that Aussies like RWD in their big family cars.

If it went FWD im sure it would be on a platform which would support AWD and I think Ford would make it available on the Falcon. Most of the profit comes from high-end performance V8 and turbo 6 variants at the moment and they would never throw that market away if the Falcon was still locally produced. AWD gives them the option to still chase the high-up luxury, performance and FPV sales (where the money is!). It might even give them the option to still build a ute variant.
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Chrysler Fiat 300C
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Plenty of other 5 door RWd cars to choose from. Just none in the same range as a Commo/Falcon
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I went with the older RWD Ford but really if we are talking the every day drive I dont really care what end drives the wheels or how many cylinders it has. I doubt very much it would ever be a Holden though.

But for a powerful toy for the garage it has to be RWD (or AWD with a RWD bias).
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actually, you're right. It would almost be suicide to create a FWD without the AWD option.
what about selling to other govt bodies, eg: police, SES, etc

can't seeing them flocking to buy FWD?
If they can go the AWD for falcon, then the new hipo cars will be a real hero!

I can't imagine cops, etc not wanting them. In fact they'll have a solid case FOR them with safety, etc.

Also, if someone's going to buy an expensive GT, I doubt that they'll be put off by an extra couple of g.
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actually, you're right. It would almost be suicide to create a FWD without the AWD option.
what about selling to other govt bodies, eg: police, SES, etc

can't seeing them flocking to buy FWD?
If they can go the AWD for falcon, then the new hipo cars will be a real hero!

I can't imagine cops, etc not wanting them. In fact they'll have a solid case FOR them with safety, etc.

Also, if someone's going to buy an expensive GT, I doubt that they'll be put off by an extra couple of g.
Goverment Bodies / Police / SES... who do you think buys the cars??? The end-user??? Or a number crunching collar type who'll be looking at the $$$ and nothing to do with the suitability or the features/specs...

If there was a FWD or a AWD option... me thinks that the cheaper option would be purchased...

and if the most un-suitable car was cheapest... then it will be purchased for sure...

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Bugger it. I'd still drive a ford because of what value it represents, and I'd continue to be loyal to the brand.
I've driven heaps of front wheel drive cars and for every day work, they're alright.
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