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02-04-2011, 12:24 PM | #1 | |||
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02-04-2011, 07:49 PM | #2 | ||
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Awful lot of pluses in Ford's march result, very hard for critics to fault.
Undeniably, Ford are climbing in sales and reputation - great result. Crown Victoria is proving that it is still popular with police departments... Fiesta 9,787 Focus 17,178 (19,500 -11.9%) Fusion 27,566 (22,773 +21.0%) Taurus 5,954 (7,001 -15.0%) Mustang 8,557 (5,829 +46.8%) Crown Victoria 6,176 (3,223 +91.6%) Ford Cars 75,218 (58,326 29.0%) Escape 23,975 (19,182 +25.0%) Edge 12,388 (10,254 +20.8%) Flex 2,468 (3,468 -28.8%) Explorer 12,482 (5,907 +111.3%) Expedition 3,641 (2,596 +40.3%) Ford Utilities 54,954 (41,418 +32.7%) F-Series 53,272 (42,514 +25.3%) Ranger 5,833 (4,445 +31.2%) Econoline/Club Wagon 11,827 (10,470 +13.0%) Transit Connect 2,690 (1,836 +46.5%) Low Cab Forward 0 (51 -100.0%) Heavy Trucks 482 (307 +57.0%) Ford Trucks 74,104 (59,623 +24.3%) Ford Brand 204,276 (159,367 + 28.2%) |
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02-04-2011, 10:46 PM | #3 | ||
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Wierd that they are willing to just give up 6k sales a month once they discontinue the Ranger over there.
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02-04-2011, 11:42 PM | #4 | ||
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Not weird at all, Ranger is lucky to break 40,000 sales a year theses days,
most buyers have shifted from small Trucks onto other vehicles like SUVs. |
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03-04-2011, 12:01 AM | #5 | ||
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What an achievement
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03-04-2011, 12:24 AM | #6 | ||
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Taurus sold 5954 units over the quarter. In a market of 300 million. And we sell more falcon's in a market of not quite 30 million.
And what do you think should be the basis of the next global large car?
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03-04-2011, 12:43 AM | #7 | |||
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that's 30,000 for the month in USA alone. On top of that lot, the Hermosillo plant supplies Canada and Brazil but it's nominally rated at 305,000/year and Ford is going 10-20% over that figure. People in USA are voting with their cheque books and buying Fusion way ahead of Taurus, also huge jump in Explorer, over 13,000 last month and expected to climb... |
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03-04-2011, 12:54 AM | #8 | |||
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We shouldn't drag this debate in here, and derail the thread. But if Taurus is going EUCD... then here in Aus... we'd be contented with just the Mondeo.
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03-04-2011, 01:17 AM | #9 | ||
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Without getting into politics the 2004 alternative to FG Falcon was to be an enlarged Fusion,
more like USA Mazda 6 with longer wheelbase, more leg room, AWD and V6 engine.... I would suspect the next internal vehicle proposal would be based on CD4 Fusion/Mondeo, not Taurus.... |
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03-04-2011, 01:25 AM | #10 | |||
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But I seriously don't think this is the end of the line for Falcon. The platform is tops, and it's only 3 three years old.
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03-04-2011, 06:27 AM | #11 | ||
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Who said Falcon was stopping immediately?
This product cycle has at least another 4 years to run.... The stunning success of Ford in the USA gives me hope that the brass may be willing to work with FoA on a solution that keeps manufacturing here, that is my main hope, the type of vehicle is a secondary consideration. With Fusion and Mondeo combining in the near future, the scales of economy from that effort will be huge and I also expect that Ford will make the internal dimensions slightly larger to make Fusion/Mondeo Ford's primary large car around the globe, Falcon and Taurus are merely regional cars and exist to fill a local need, if that need disappears, so to do those cars. Last edited by jpd80; 03-04-2011 at 06:38 AM. |
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03-04-2011, 12:06 PM | #12 | |||
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03-04-2011, 09:18 PM | #13 | |||
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FoA wouldn't have even sold that many Falcons for the whole quarter. |
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03-04-2011, 09:53 PM | #14 | ||
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Gm have had a very good gain this year. BUT, it has been very much driven by incentives.
Ford have mostly stayed away from that and still made excellent sales. Backed by a great range of class leaders. With ever higher 'gas' prices, their new range of vehicles is really kicking some goals. ie Fusion, Fiesta and Focus. Add in a more economical F series which is now selling as much as 35% in V6 models is a real indicator of the way they have read the market. Alan Mullaly is a king! PS I want to see quarterly profit as well as these sales figures
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04-04-2011, 09:41 AM | #16 | |||
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A good result for Ford America
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03-04-2011, 06:55 AM | #17 | ||
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If the yanks are buying smaller trucks consider this , how popular would the Falcon ute be over there ??
IMO they would sell by the truck load !!!! ( pun intended )
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03-04-2011, 08:12 AM | #18 | |||
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small trucks sales have nose dived as SUV and crossover sales have soared. This is why Ford and GM have left, Toyota is down to 120K/year with Tacoma. F Truck sold 58,000 units last month, Ranger around 5,000 so why would Ford care about light trucks.... |
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03-04-2011, 01:29 PM | #19 | ||
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Is the new foucs out in the US yet? Focus sales are down?
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03-04-2011, 01:41 PM | #20 | |||
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By comparison Fiesta and Fusion had a huge month so it's possible sales bled up and down... Fusion is now only a whisker behind Camry which sold just over 31,000... Great effort Ford. |
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03-04-2011, 04:44 PM | #21 | ||
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Taurus's biggest problem is that it is now too big. Don't forget folks that it is larger than a Fairlane, and based not on a car platform, but an SUV Platform, which is why it has an RTV ride height. Don't get me wrong, it isn't a bad car - we do it a disservice, but it is just the wrong car for the market. Even Taurus is on thin ice at the moment, and its saving grace may well be the Police Market.
Ford have done well, but the main question is about sustainability. They need to get Focus to fire, and then they should have a decent mix. Does anybody know when the European market's results will be out?
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03-04-2011, 05:33 PM | #22 | |||
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still supply constrained and until they have sufficient inventory levels, the new Focus will be like the first couple of ordinary months for Fiesta. IMO, low inventory levels gave Fiesta and Fusion an opportunity to shine and boy, did they ever bring home the bacon for Ford... Last edited by jpd80; 03-04-2011 at 05:38 PM. |
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04-04-2011, 04:07 PM | #23 | ||
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They've beaten GM, but have they also beaten Toyota?
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http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/01/b...oolin-edition/
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