Have I lost my license?

[buddy92]

Hey guys.

Just asking a question.

I just got done another $206 for no P plate on the car, I got done before christmas and lost 2 points, P platers have 4. The first time I admit I knew I didn't have one.

Now, I got done this morning coming back from a small town picking up my girl. He asked why I had no p plate, and I told him the truth.

The town I went to is one of the worst towns going, I had one on there and it was stolen, and there is NO shop nore the police station open in this town as its small.

Anyway, he gave me $206 fine and 3 points.

Does this mean I will get a letter in the mail with loss of liscense, 2 points before christmas, and 3 today? seems to me I will.

[lockieoc]

What state are you in?

[buddy92]

Originally Posted by lockieoc

What state are you in?

NSW sorry forgot to say.

[lockieoc]

Ok. Being a P Plater you will be off the road regardless of any outcome.
You can go to court and try and fight it and you may be able to get off lightly if you have a genuine reason for needing your license, such as to get to work. Also being in a rural area im guessing there isn't much public transport. Elect to do the driver offenders program and you may find that they will put you off the road for a significantly less time.
So as soon as the fine arrives, don't pay, go to the local court house and book in a date. These are two minor infringements so they may go easy on you.

[buddy92]

Originally Posted by lockieoc

Ok. Being a P Plater you will be off the road regardless of any outcome.
You can go to court and try and fight it and you may be able to get off lightly if you have a genuine reason for needing your license, such as to get to work. Also being in a rural area im guessing there isn't much public transport. Elect to do the driver offenders program and you may find that they will put you off the road for a significantly less time.
So as soon as the fine arrives, don't pay, go to the local court house and book in a date. These are two minor infringements so they may go easy on you.

I'm waiting for the letter saying I got no license cause I already have the fine, he wrote it out. Asked me have I had a fine before I said yep, lost 2 points and he said we'll you've lost 3 for this one and that I can write a letter or something if I believe it's an error.

He never said I lost my license but I know I have.

[lockieoc]

Originally Posted by buddy92

I'm waiting for the letter saying I got no license cause I already have the fine, he wrote it out. Asked me have I had a fine before I said yep, lost 2 points and he said we'll you've lost 3 for this one and that I can write a letter or something if I believe it's an error.

He never said I lost my license but I know I have.

Yeah when the letter arrives take it down to the court house and book in.

[Kieron]

Originally Posted by buddy92

I'm waiting for the letter saying I got no license cause I already have the fine, he wrote it out. Asked me have I had a fine before I said yep, lost 2 points and he said we'll you've lost 3 for this one and that I can write a letter or something if I believe it's an error.

He never said I lost my license but I know I have.

Sounds like it's 1 point for not displaying, you first got done in a double points period so lost 2.

Did he mean, "well, you've lost 3 WITH one" by any chance?

[Torment47]

Originally Posted by buddy92

NSW sorry forgot to say.

That town you said you wen't to wouldn't happen to be Shalvey would it?

[buddy92]

Originally Posted by Torment47

That town you said you wen't to wouldn't happen to be Shalvey would it?

Nah mate, I'm ashamed to say it.

Wellington

[jcxr]

Originally Posted by lockieoc

What state are you in?

In anticipation.

[svo supporter]

Originally Posted by jcxr

In anticipation.

Apprears to be NSW. TORMENT 47 has sort of made a comment relating to the state and that user is from NSW.

[davidg2152]

Yes.
My advice, make sure you get the letter. You may be able to dodge a conviction at court in relation to "not knowing" stating you did not receive the letter. However your insurance will not give a toss and secondly the Police officer may also not care.
If you get done and convicted at court you will be court disqualified. This is a whole other mess to deal with as once the disqualified ball starts rolling it can be a real problem.

May still be able to make application for probationary licence. Just call Manager driver licensing in your state to enquire.

[Feathers]

You've lost 5 points total, so yes, you're going to be a pedestrian for awhile.

[AndyXR6T]

Sounds to me like it's gone. Best thing to do is get the number plate attachment for the p plate. Doesn't look great but p plates are there for a reason

[chrisfpv]

I'm from Vic so not exactly sure how it works in NSW, but if you've lost more points then you have then you are in a world of hurt.

Who even steals a P plate?

[lockieoc]

Originally Posted by chrisfpv

Who steals a P plate?

In NSW it happens all the time as the plate is on the outside of the car.

[OZYWALKER]

Originally Posted by chrisfpv

Who even steals a P plate?

I have had 4 sets of magnetic plates stolen in the last 6 months at work.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by chrisfpv

Who even steals a P plate?

Happens more often than you think.

When I was on my P's back in the day, an officer actually witnessed someone pull the P plate off my car. A few minutes later I got in it and drove away - not knowing. He pulled me up and booked me for not displaying the plate, advising me that I should check every time I get in the car.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by chrisfpv

Who even steals a P plate?

My ex girlfriend. But only from my car.

Back when I was at school in yr 11 and 12 most people drove to school. The school was surrounded by cars parked all day with p plates. Some afternoons you would come out and almost every car was missing it's p plates. I would carry at least 10 spare plates at all times. Wasted so much plastic. P plates are the biggest waste of time. They are only used by other p platers so they know to drag race you or drive like a ******** around you. And i gues they help the government with revenue raising.

[Werd.]

Originally Posted by Ben73

They are only used by other p platers so they know to drag race you or drive like a ******** around you. And i gues they help the government with revenue raising.

Too right, often find myself getting passed by a pack of P platers doing 20K over the limit, they're so eager to impress eachother.. Increases the road toll.

[kaniSS]

Originally Posted by chrisfpv

I'm from Vic so not exactly sure how it works in NSW, but if you've lost more points then you have then you are in a world of hurt.

Who even steals a P plate?

No one. Chances are OP doesn't like putting them on his car judging by this being his 3rd offence, all the P platers I know hate putting them on too.

[poppa smurf]

$206 plus 2 points for not displaying a "P" plate........simply pathetic madness....glad I grew up when i did

world's changing and not for the better

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by poppa smurf

$206 plus 2 points for not displaying a "P" plate........simply pathetic madness....glad I grew up when i did

world's changing and not for the better

Yeah, not like lives are in danger or might cause an accident. seems excessive.

Originally Posted by Rodp

an officer actually witnessed someone pull the P plate off my car.

that sucks, what a knob. did he tell you he saw someone take it?

[buddy92]

Ok thankyou.

[burkie_21]

i dont see how for the same offense you get the same fine but 2 different amounts of demerit points. id be chasing it up for sure

[buddy92]

Originally Posted by burkie_21

i dont see how for the same offense you get the same fine but 2 different amounts of demerit points. id be chasing it up for sure

Yeah the first I lost 2 ( was double demerit points ) and today I got 3.

Even if they gave me 2 I still would have loss of license right?

[Peter B - CV8]

You'll be walking for 3 months - then back on P's. I wouldn't worry about trying to get out of it with a letter - as the driver, you are responsible to ensure that your P's a are attached/dispayed before using the vehicle (ie do a quick visual before you drive).

[Bucknaked]

Stupid question, but why can't you put the P-Plates inside the car and attach them high on the inside of the window. Seems a simple solution.

[deesun]

Originally Posted by Bucknaked

Stupid question, but why can't you put the P-Plates inside the car and attach them high on the inside of the window. Seems a simple solution.

NSW they have to be displayed outside the vehicle because they should be easier to see. But all the lazy and cheap ar**d P platers cant be bothered to get a proper holder for their P's so they hide them behind the number plates and then they fall off and then go cry a river when they get booked.

[Simple6]

The RTA made that illegal as of July 1, 2007. Apparently it was too easy to obscure them when they were inside the vehicle.