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Old 25-06-2012, 05:37 PM   #1
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Hi guys, have a quick question for my brother.

He has a car through finance ( capital finance ) but he wants to trade his car in for a newer one around the end this year next year some time, he's had it for 5 years now.

The problem is his credit history isn't all that good at the moment so when he goes to get a new one, will the finance company credit check him all over again cause, or they wont because he is already financed through them?

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Old 25-06-2012, 05:40 PM   #2
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Yes they will.

Veda is not your friend if you have bad credit.

Basically it doesnt matter what he currently has, Within those 5 years, he could of gotten a home loan, 100K+ rack up on credit cards etc, no lending company will lend more money without checking these things, and if they dont check them, there not the lending company you would want your family dealing with as it may cost you a knee cap or two.
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Old 25-06-2012, 05:43 PM   #3
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Oh ok then, fair enough, I will tell him.

He can only try and they can only say yes or no I suppose.
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Old 25-06-2012, 05:51 PM   #4
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I had a bad credit mark on my credit file. I still got my GT on Finance through Esanda. As long as it is paid, he may have a chance. If he has not paid the bad debt, I would not even try and get finance.
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Old 25-06-2012, 05:52 PM   #5
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Well as I was typing this I got my credit report back from D&B, I noticed this on there, someone able to tell me anything about "accesses" and what this would be?

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I have NO idea what I got or applied for that was $99,999.00
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Old 25-06-2012, 05:57 PM   #6
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Well as I was typing this I got my credit report back from D&B, I noticed this on there, someone able to tell me anything about "accesses" and what this would be?



I have NO idea what I got or applied for that was $99,999.00
Did you apply for anything through that finance company. $99,999.00 Just seems like a number they just put in to get a result.
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Old 25-06-2012, 06:00 PM   #7
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Did you apply for anything through that finance company. $99,999.00 Just seems like a number they just put in to get a result.
Is "GE Capital Finance" Capital finance? My car is through Capital Finance, but it hasn't got GE in it, and my car isn't $99,999.00
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Old 25-06-2012, 06:02 PM   #8
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Not to sure you could ask them to investigate where that request came from.
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Old 25-06-2012, 06:04 PM   #9
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Not to sure you could ask them to investigate where that request came from.
Yeah good idea, cause I got no idea what that is, and that's alot of money to have on my credit history yes?
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Old 25-06-2012, 07:49 PM   #10
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D&B is rubbish.
Only use Veda Advantage.
These days its tough to get credit.
If you have maintained all your repayments and have not missed a payment with direct debit it helps.
But the repayments might go up.
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I work assessing credit applications. Although on a much lesser scale than most car loans.

All I can say is contact Veda Advantage (www.mycreditfile.com.au), get a copy - I think it should be free unless you want the express service, and have a look - if there's unpaid adverse items perhaps wait until they're paid before applying. Or take a chance and apply with them there.

It may even help if there ARE adverse items to get into a payment arrangement for them prior to applying for more - a company may look upon this a bit kinder than it being completely unpaid.

Either that, or just go for broke and apply - you'll find out soon enough if there's adverse items on there!
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Old 25-06-2012, 08:42 PM   #12
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The only one with Veda is $40+ guess I have to pay that for accurate one?
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Old 26-06-2012, 01:31 PM   #13
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The only one with Veda is $40+ guess I have to pay that for accurate one?
They hide the link on their homepage, but try this http://www.mycreditfile.com.au/home/...redit-file.dot
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Just been through the bad credit file thing
I had to have the biggest one on there paid out before I could get more finance even though I had a letter from the company stating that I only had $200 owing on it

It is a bugger to get finance if there is anything on there that's not good
it took my loan application just over 2 weeks to be approved
now I am still looking for a car as what I wanted the loan for has been sold and I am having trouble finding something as the same or as good for the money that I have to spend

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Old 25-06-2012, 08:45 PM   #15
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Can I pass mine onto someone on here via pm for them to tell me what's bad on mine? I don't understand it or is there stuff on it people shouldn't know? Haven't read all of it cause its huge only has my name and all that.
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finance companies .....they love people who cant pay money back ..............thats what they hope you to do fail in your repayments so they can reposses your car .
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:28 AM   #17
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finance companies .....they love people who cant pay money back ..............thats what they hope you to do fail in your repayments so they can reposses your car .
I'm going to assume your joking

understanding lending standards/asset management/book quality fail
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:36 AM   #18
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finance companies .....they love people who cant pay money back ..............thats what they hope you to do fail in your repayments so they can reposses your car .
yeah, like they really want an old car. i'm sure they'd prefer the cash.
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:45 AM   #19
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Your kidding right
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Your kidding right
No I'm not they love giving money out to people who can't afford flash cars.
So they get the car back then sell it off to recoup the funds . Seen it happen plenty of times .
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No I'm not they love giving money out to people who can't afford flash cars.
So they get the car back then sell it off to recoup the funds . Seen it happen plenty of times .
This is true

Use to work in car sales and the odd person would get a loan approve when there negative in there bank account on a daily basis
A few months later we are knocking on the door getting the car back
This was 5 years ago now not sure if they still do it
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This is true

Use to work in car sales and the odd person would get a loan approve when there negative in there bank account on a daily basis
A few months later we are knocking on the door getting the car back
This was 5 years ago now not sure if they still do it
Thank you I rest my case .
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Old 25-06-2012, 09:18 PM   #23
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So best bet is to repay any debt you have?
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Old 25-06-2012, 10:06 PM   #24
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Look in Advice Central about credit history lol.

Pay any debts to try and make your history look better. Veda does have a free option but it takes 10 days and you need to provide proof you are you.

If you pay the $42, pay the extra $10 to get any updates to your file for the next year.

Don't underestimate the power of a bad rating... Or an incorrect rating either.
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Be aware that just making applications for credit looks bad on your history. Even store cards and mobile phone contracts are marked down as a line of credit. I am fairly certain that your history just shows the applications made and not whether it was accepted or not. What ever is on that file is there to stay, for life.

I had issues in England when i was younger with an incorrect history. I have the same initials as my father. As an 18yr old I tried to get finance to buy a guitar amp but was refused. I had to pay to get a copy of my history and take time to try to get it fixed. It was a horrid process. It appeared that I was an 18yr old with a 30 years of store cards, credit cards and home loans.
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Be aware that just making applications for credit looks bad on your history. Even store cards and mobile phone contracts are marked down as a line of credit. I am fairly certain that your history just shows the applications made and not whether it was accepted or not. What ever is on that file is there to stay, for life.

I had issues in England when i was younger with an incorrect history. I have the same initials as my father. As an 18yr old I tried to get finance to buy a guitar amp but was refused. I had to pay to get a copy of my history and take time to try to get it fixed. It was a horrid process. It appeared that I was an 18yr old with a 30 years of store cards, credit cards and home loans.
I'm pretty sure if you have 2 credit applications within 6 months it goes against you. I'm going through it all at the moment, just waiting for my credit report to turn up. everything should be good but I was out of work for 6 months last year and things got hard really quick.
with how much I earn now I would be surprised if they knock me back but I would like to know what's on there before wasting my time.
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I'm pretty sure if you have 2 credit applications within 6 months it goes against you. I'm going through it all at the moment, just waiting for my credit report to turn up. everything should be good but I was out of work for 6 months last year and things got hard really quick.
with how much I earn now I would be surprised if they knock me back but I would like to know what's on there before wasting my time.
Not necassarily, as a Banker we do question what the applications are but it is only to ensure that there are no exsiting liabilities that the customer has not declared. You also have to remember that Electricity companies and Telcos also do a credit check on you which shows up on your file.
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Be aware that just making applications for credit looks bad on your history. Even store cards and mobile phone contracts are marked down as a line of credit. I am fairly certain that your history just shows the applications made and not whether it was accepted or not. What ever is on that file is there to stay, for life.

I had issues in England when i was younger with an incorrect history. I have the same initials as my father. As an 18yr old I tried to get finance to buy a guitar amp but was refused. I had to pay to get a copy of my history and take time to try to get it fixed. It was a horrid process. It appeared that I was an 18yr old with a 30 years of store cards, credit cards and home loans.
There is limits on how long items stay on the file. They do not stay on forever. I think application are around 2 years. Bad marks can be 5 or 7 years etc.
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Your credit file also has a record each time you apply for finance.

Despite popular belief it does not distinguish between whether the application was successful or not so keep in mind what kind of picture you are painting with your activity and whether you will have the opportunity to explain.

For example it would look far worse on your file to apply for 4 different kinds of store finance in quick succession even if you were approved for all of them. It will look like you kept getting knocked back and then tried elsewhere.

Similarly, don't be concerned if once a year you apply for finance and are not successful (may be time to have a look inward, but in respect to your credit file it does not look bad)

Oh, and people who justify borrowing by saying "at least I am building up a good credit history" or the like: Your are not. Maybe you are demonstrating the ability to service a loan, but you would be at least as well off in saving this amount and demonstrating the ability to save.
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Also, you should not assume you have a worse credit file than you do.

Just because you have been late on/missed payments doesn't necessarily mean it has made it onto your credit file.

Definately worth getting a copy
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