The Chinese are at it again...

[4.0i OHC]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/204027/q...chinese-sedan/

Qoros previews Europe-bound compact Chinese sedan


By David Zalstein | December 06th, 2012












Aspiring Chinese luxury car company Qoros has released fresh sketches of its first production model, a compact sedan, that is due to be unveiled alongside two concept cars at next year’s Geneva motor show in what will be the fledgling brand’s world debut.

Said be distinguished by “desirable elegance”, the Qoros models are being developed with the Chinese and European markets specifically in mind, with the young brand hoping consumers in both regions will be drawn to Qoros’ style fronted by former Mini design director Gert Volker Hildebrand.

Qoros says long wheelbases and short overhangs will help create the perfect proportions for the three new models, with a consistent frontal ‘brand look’ being highlighted by a vertically slotted radiator grille with a chrome upper edge and bar in the lower air duct. Illuminated LED strips at the top edge of the headlight clusters stretch into the quarter panels that sit above 19-inch multi-spoke alloy wheels in a theme mirrored with the car’s tail-lights that feature illuminated horizontal LED bars.

Inside, a three-spoke steering wheel is joined by an integrated centrally located eight-inch colour touchscreen that controls the car’s infotainment system.
Qoros was founded in 2007 as a joint venture between Chery Automobile, China’s largest independent car manufacturer, and global industrial holding company Israel Corporation.
The Geneva motor show kicks off in March 2013.

Oh dear.


Take a look at the image of that rear end. It's nothing less than a photocopy of a VW Passat. It won't have the dynamics of one though; this car's steering and handling will probably approximate those of the 'inspiration' of its front end styling and 'brand look', the Toyota Camry.

[DJM83]

Looks like a Golf Passat

[Mechan1k]

Originally Posted by DJM83

Looks like a Golf Passat

I see what you did there

[Bossxr8]

Why would you want to copy 2 of the most boring cars on the road, Camry and Passat.

[RegSpec]

Looking forward to seeing the Chinese version of an F6 or FPV GT
Give it time....

[djjase]

Originally Posted by BionicXR6T

Looking forward to seeing the Chinese version of an F6 or FPV GT
Give it time....

What do you mean, they already are.

I bet all the electronics have "made in china" stickers on them and 99% of modern cars are all plastic and electronics that come from China who imported our raw materials to make then at a cheaper price than what we buy them back as.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Why would you want to copy 2 of the most boring popular cars on the road in the USA and Europe respectively - Camry and Passat.

Fixed it for ya...

[NickyN]

They're good at copying things, that's for sure. imo

[2011G6E]

I'd drive that.

Face it...one of the problems with the Camry is the looks. It's bland. It's boring. It's white goods on wheels. It's a lump of car.

I just spent another two days driving around in my sons Aurion...it's comfortable, it's safe, the V6 engine is a pearler, it's goes hard, and unless you're driving like a tool you won't even notice the front wheel drive.

But the looks, and that bland interior...good lord.

Wrap it all in a nice package, and they'd have something...

[Buntz]

Has no one noticed how much the front headlights look like BMW's. After all the stylist used to be with MINI... or BMW basically.

To me it looks like a cheap rip off of a BMW 6 series Gran Coupe, with some VW thrown in.

[PlukaDuck]

And half the population of braindead Australians will buy it and give
the chinese kids a job. Just look how many foriegn cars are on the road.
And well ........ foriegn everything.
This country is headed down the **** pit
Give it 10 more years and we will be the 3rd world country

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by PlukaDuck

And half the population of braindead Australians will buy it and give
the chinese kids a job. Just look how many foriegn cars are on the road.
And well ........ foriegn everything.
This country is headed down the **** pit
Give it 10 more years and we will be the 3rd world country

Who else is old enough to remember the days of strong tariff and import duty protection of Australian cars? Vehicles that were built "just good enough" and with only enough equipment to get by...even rear windows demisters were optional, and forget power windows until you stumped up for a Stateman or Fairlane (and even then they were optional too). These were competing against well equipped foreign cars that were artificially kept expensive, and Aussie car makers knew damn well they were selling to a captive audience who had been brainwashed into believing that what we were getting was amazing quality and of a high standard.

Move to today and people expect a lot of things fitted standard...if you told people they were going to have to pay extra for demisters, air con, power steering, window tinting, and other "normal" fitments, they'd riot.

If it hadn't been for forcing from well-equipped imports and cheaper and cheaper foreign offerings, Australian car makers would have just continued on down the American path of lazily built cars that were sold to a captive audience. America went through a lot of pain when floods of well made reliable well equipped foreign cars started popping for very affordable prices.


If we managed to bring in strong protection of the Australian car industry, they would, at the behest of shareholders wanting bigger profit margins, become lazy without strong competition from overseas. That's life.


Look at the Camry/Aurion...boring unadventurous styling, bland, a "lump of car"...but it's also very well built, well equipped, comfortable, goes well, and handles well enough to please 90% of drivers. What more does it have to do? If it sells for a price less than an equivalent Falcon/Commodore, and the buyer is just after something reliable and well priced, why not buy one? Be it home appliances, clothing, computers, TV's, or cars, if it's as good and cheaper than the Australian made one, then who in their right mind these days is going to go further into debt than they have to just to "buy Australian"?

[302 XC]

Originally Posted by PlukaDuck

And half the population of braindead Australians will buy it and give
the chinese kids a job. Just look how many foriegn cars are on the road.
And well ........ foriegn everything.
This country is headed down the **** pit
Give it 10 more years and we will be the 3rd world country

10 years .....
We are classed as that already,take out our biggest industry,mining,and well whats left
Baron desert

95 % of every home has over 95 % of foreign made goods, the writing was on the wall many many years ago
Dont want to come across as MR negative
But while we use our laptops,TVs,DVDs,stereos ,wear foreign made clothes,shoes,shirts,use our foreign made fones,tablets,anything else we cant do without daily, the country goes down the gurgler
Cars only play a minute part in foreign goods flooding the country

Written on,foreign made laptop, sent via foreign made wireless modem, goin thru foreign made satelitte dish,received by foreign made satellite,sent to you and received by your forign made equipment
Ill now go have my smoko using contents partly foreign made,using foreign made cutley,knife,fork on foreign made plate drinking from a foreign made cup

[Till_Lind]

Lol, VW. Guy must of been sketching from a Passat brochure, twat.

[Buntz]

[Streets]

Now only 60% asbestos!

[aquahead2001]

Here is more Chinese Automotive Styling at its best!! Gotta love the name too!!!

http://jalopnik.com/5967600/this-chi...oure-expecting

[Hayden1]

Originally Posted by aquahead2001

Here is more Chinese Automotive Styling at its best!! Gotta love the name too!!!

http://jalopnik.com/5967600/this-chi...oure-expecting

Another great example:

Great Wall 'Safe':


Toyota 'Surf':

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Hayden1

Another great example:

Great Wall 'Safe':
image

Toyota 'Surf':
image

Take that to a Chinese court and they will say.. "Looks nothing like a Toyota Surf. A Toyota Surf has Toyota... and Surf on it."

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by aquahead2001

Here is more Chinese Automotive Styling at its best!! Gotta love the name too!!!

http://jalopnik.com/5967600/this-chi...oure-expecting

That is classic. And yeah... the name. What's next? Falcon Flying Fortress?

[NickyN]

Originally Posted by aquahead2001

Here is more Chinese Automotive Styling at its best!! Gotta love the name too!!!

http://jalopnik.com/5967600/this-chi...oure-expecting

You beat me to it, I was going to post that link to the electric Mustang F16.

I'll stick to REAL Ford Mustangs.....or my name's not Mustang Nik. (short for Nicky)

[Wretched]

It does look similar to other brands but many car companies suffer from this.
with head designers moving from company to company we're bound to see a lot of the influence they had across new models with their new company.

The article even highlights this

will be drawn to Qoros’ style fronted by former Mini design director Gert Volker Hildebrand.

We see a lot of that with Kia where the head designer was an ex Alfa/Fiat designer.

It is going to happen more often with the newer brands. They'll poach a designer from a well known brand with top selling models and use that style in their own product to get the recognition.

If this Qoros does happen, wonder how much of the sketch will translate to the production model?

[Dragoneletra]

I don't mind it. Except for the big Iphone in the dash !!

[Dave_Obsession]

FWIW, the head designer at Kia used to work for Audi & Volkswagen...
http://www.caradvice.com.au/60510/in...eter-schreyer/

[Yellow_Festiva]

Looks like a Citroen C5.

[Poetic Justice]

What frustrates me is the amount of people who play this out like it's the first time to happen? Chinese brands have been doing it for ages. But furthermore, there is so many common design traits these days it's not funny. The new Corolla's backend looks similar to a current Alfa, it looks similar to the current i20 or Elantra whichever it may be.

As manufacturers try to match fashion trends, consumers are either bagging them for looking too alike (which is annoying if the look alikes are in good form) or bagging them for when they try to do something different.

Ford's new design language looks like Aston Martin, has been said by many, which is great only because Aston is a good brand. What if Ford's new design language took from a Kia? or something of lesser value? You wouldn't shutup about it then. Hypocrisy, it seems, still doesn't escape most.

[GQ_Smooth]

Within 2 model generations they will be proper cars IMO. Koreans are now making quality made vehicles (with no where near the same driving dynamics of more established brands), but as Toyota has proved, you don't have to be the best dynamic car to be the most successful, build quality and reliability means more!

[Yellow_Festiva]

Having a common design trait is fine, saying some part of a car looks like another car is very different to a blatant carbon copy. Some of the cars are so close I wonder if they can share panels?









Didn't the first Great Wall ute 'borrow' lights from VW?? How does that happen? I think the problem could be that car companies send designs there for prototype manufacturing and perhaps the Chinese don't dospose of the tooling as they should, or make duplicates for themselves. Who knows???

[NickyN]

You'd think the Chinese could come up with their OWN designs.........you know?

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by NickyN

You'd think the Chinese could come up with their OWN designs.........you know?

When Copyright laws really do not apply and some other design is appealing it would be so much easier just to copy than try and design something from scratch. Especially when it is for their local market only. In some cases parts are sold to other companies to make up their own Bitsa's. The Great Wall ute is (was?) made up of Mitsubishi drive line, even stamped Mitsu. Body parts and panels are Isuzu.