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21-08-2007, 12:30 PM | #1 | |||
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21-08-2007, 12:36 PM | #2 | ||
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Its still a Camry and its still ugly
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21-08-2007, 05:54 PM | #3 | |||
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21-08-2007, 12:36 PM | #4 | ||
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They look the goods on the outside, however the interior is still whitegoods be it with fridge magnets for decoration.
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21-08-2007, 12:39 PM | #5 | ||
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I like it externally, but the interior is bland.
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21-08-2007, 12:42 PM | #6 | ||
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I'm in love with that rear bar.
And I don't hate the interior as much as I probably should. In fact, the dash is almost sexy But, correct me if I'm wrong, 329HP = 245kW, right? Isn't that a little on the low side? I would have expected more but then maybe I'm not in the target market (since I'm under 60). It's going to be interesting to see who buys them. |
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21-08-2007, 12:43 PM | #7 | ||
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Looks nice, and i love those seats.... pitty about the rest of the interior
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21-08-2007, 12:46 PM | #8 | |||
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Dual exhaust outlets integrated into the rear bar looks the goods, that's about all though.
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21-08-2007, 10:57 PM | #9 | ||
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Looks good on the outside and the seats are grand, but the dash (and the steering wheel OMG) are very ugly.
$56K is a lot of clams for a mega Camry too. I know I spent $43K on a FWD XR5 and I love it to bits, but for $50K+ I want RWD or AWD and more goodies than this car offers. That said, a up-specced Typhoon would be $8K-10K dearer and have about the same in toys too, so at the end of the day it appears RWD is the real sticking point. Last edited by MeestaNob!; 21-08-2007 at 11:02 PM. |
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21-08-2007, 12:47 PM | #10 | ||
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High in price. they are stating its going to be $56,000 starting price and over $60,000 for the luxury version. It looks good, and its 0-100 time is a claimed 6.1 seconds which aint that bad, but its pricing is going to kill it. Still Front wheel drive too.
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21-08-2007, 01:04 PM | #11 | ||
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Geez for $57,000 245kw really isn't much is it???
How much does an XR8 or SS cost or an XR6 Turbo??? For that price they are pushing into FPV and HSV territory which are pushing 300kw plus. It doesn't even have friggin AWD!!! How are they going to market the piece of junk? It's going to have less power, worse handling, sound crapper AND be more expensive than a Ford and Holden. Anybody who buys it deserves to be shot Apparently Toyota are saying it will be more "sophisticated" than the HSV and FPV. I can't believe it's seriously going to cost that much for a bodykit and a supercharger slapped on. The worst thing is that knowing people the TRD Aurion is going to sell like hotcakes. Hopefully everyone who buys it will understeer into the nearest tree. Can't wait for the comparos. |
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21-08-2007, 01:09 PM | #12 | ||
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it'll never understeer to many bloody gadjets on it to stop it, so it'll be boring to drive, think they were more trying to aim at taking on subaru's, mazda6 mps and stuff like that, but yeah wouldn't mind a drive and a read of a faircomparo
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21-08-2007, 01:11 PM | #13 | ||
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Looks pretty good, touch of F1 nose on the front, However, still a front wheel drive, dash layout and function not the best. Power should be over 270kw for that price tag.
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21-08-2007, 01:34 PM | #14 | ||
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for 60k, no thanks. Good to see Toyota giving it a go but they just didn't give it enough. It'll sell well though. An SS/XR6T for me at about 10k cheaper.
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21-08-2007, 01:40 PM | #15 | ||
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Not too bad, looks good in red. But I have no interest in FWD cars..........
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21-08-2007, 01:51 PM | #17 | ||
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Looks great exterior wise, interior is OK, but FWD and 329hp do not go together. I don't believe the Toyota claim of 6.1 to 100 (too much wheelspin), will wait to see what wheels and motor get.
As others have already said $57K is already more than $10K over the Ford and Holden offerings, it is more HSV/FPV territory. Interestingly the Aurion SX6 finished last in BFYB this year - they basically said handling was rubbish (due to FWD, too much interference from electronics) but had a great engine, I wonder if the TRD version fixes the handling issues. Did I mention it looks good?
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21-08-2007, 02:15 PM | #18 | ||
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There were rumors that the stability control in the F series Lexus is going to be less intrusive so maybe the same will happen with this one.
Re: FWD only if it is $56k with FWD and AWD was ditched because of price, imagine how much a (higher powered) AWD would come in at? Although being Toyota maybe they could have “bought” the market, sold an AWD model at a loss for the halo model. Mitsubishi aren’t going ahead with their supercharged 380 so it doesn’t have a logical competitor. HSV and Tickford have had a few mis-fires over the years hopefully Toyota will do better in the future. P.S. what racetrack where the photos taken at – it doesn’t look Victorian.
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21-08-2007, 03:01 PM | #19 | ||
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245kw not bad for a S/C 3.4L V6...XR6T is making that and its a 4L... gotta give them credit for that atleast...
But FWD is what kills it for me, its hard enough keeping the front wheels from spinning in mums 145kw Camry sportivo let alone a 245kw s/c version! I would have thought they would have at least made it AWD...
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21-08-2007, 05:44 PM | #20 | |||
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But that much power and FWD pretty silly. I couldn't care less I dont like Toyota's anyway. |
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21-08-2007, 02:27 PM | #21 | ||
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21-08-2007, 02:41 PM | #22 | ||
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Yes it is overpriced but hell if they don't sell enough that will come down. Also we will have to wait for the next model to come out before anything other than FWD comes out. It's because the Aurion is built on the same Production line as the Camry.
A rumour though is the TRD Corolla will be AWD. Because that has a platform to sit on. PS.. How do I get a pic of my car to appear under my name on the side |
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looks great, I am sure these will do REALLY well!
the interior is nice, apart from the center icc, and i think the rear is a bit, i dont know... looks like its from the 80's. It's good Toyota now have something out that will be up there with the xr6's and ss's! |
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21-08-2007, 03:08 PM | #24 | ||
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Just another point:
The TRD Aurion is said to be a competitor to the Mazda6 MPS but the rumours are that production of the Mazda 6 MPS is set to end due to poor sales (at a time when Mazda is at maximum capacity and looking at opening more plants). A wise move by Toyota would have been to release it at some ridiculous low price like $39,990 drive away and watch the 50's super payout people come running. This move by Toyota raises the question of whether Toyota should be allowed entry into the V8 supercars. I am all for it o one condition: They have to remain Front Wheel Drive. I would hate the ridiculous situation of NASCAR where Front Wheel Drive V6's are "production" race cars in NASCAR with RWD and V8's. As much as V8 Supercars are bagged at least in real life they ARE RWD with a V8 option. |
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21-08-2007, 03:18 PM | #25 | |||
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21-08-2007, 03:25 PM | #26 | ||
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Ugly!!!
What about torque steer????? How many FWD cars have this much power? Any decent FWD maker with a powerful engine makes AWD available!!!! |
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21-08-2007, 06:27 PM | #27 | |||
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As an aside, as a current Mazda 6 MPS owner I would not trade my car in for this Toyota. For one thing my car is AWD and for another it is also faster. Anyway an interesting first attempt, but they need to make it cost around the same as an SS or XR8 to be competitive - this is not a HSV or FPV competitor. For non "Toyota tribalists" its a bit of stretch to image a Subaru or Mazda owner changing over to one. Dan Last edited by DanielXR8; 21-08-2007 at 06:34 PM. |
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21-08-2007, 03:14 PM | #28 | ||
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I think they look great.
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21-08-2007, 03:28 PM | #29 | ||
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Is the Ford body in Nascar rwd ???
Atleast Ford have a rwd car...
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21-08-2007, 08:52 PM | #30 | ||
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FWD...??? Hmmm... no.
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