Paddle shift for '15 VF SS-V Redline

Fab · 09-10-2014, 03:13 PM

Paddle shift, 2 new colours, new wheels, optional titanium interior accents, optional black roof, jet black interior.

http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2014...-details-46683

Sioso · 09-10-2014, 03:26 PM

Like the green.
Don't like the design of the wheels.
While paddle shifters may be a step forward I didn't care for the 6L80-E in my SSV ute, blipping on downshifts was good but everything else was crappy compared to the ZF.
I think the flappy paddles will suck in a lot of buyers though.

AdzNadz · 09-10-2014, 03:38 PM

Who honestly cares? This is a Ford forum, you couldn't pay me to drive a commondore no matter how many gadgets they tack onto it!

Wretched · 09-10-2014, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AdzNadz

Who honestly cares? This is a Ford forum, you couldn't pay me to drive a commondore no matter how many gadgets they tack onto it!

You're correct it is a Ford forum (you're so observant). But this section is for all general automotive discussion and the thread was clearly labeled. So why are you in here if you're not interested in the discussion?

Back on topic...
Paddle shift whilst sounds good, I am just not sure it would be as good as it sounds. If it can complete fast up and down changes then fine, I am just cynical.
The EPAS changes interest me, wonder why these were brought in.

elfinke · 09-10-2014, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fab

Paddle shift, 2 new colours, new wheels, optional titanium interior accents, optional black roof, jet black interior.

http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2014...-details-46683

There's a lot to like about that package, especially if it remains under $60kDA. The LS1 forums are quite happy with this and the Craig Lowndes package I noticed today. No doubt the VF is a great bit of kit...

... but dat Boss!

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Originally Posted by AdzNadz

Who honestly cares? This is a Ford forum, you couldn't pay me to drive a commondore no matter how many gadgets they tack onto it!

While I agree with this sentiment, I just ******* love cars. All of them. So I care. Especially at a time when powerful 4dr sedans are soon to be heritage-listed and unavailable to buy new (well, unless you want a 6-figure Merc, Audi or Beemer) it seems trite to **** on the other camp?

galaxy xr8 · 09-10-2014, 04:21 PM

Yeah I don’t ever see myself owning a Holden badged vehicle but that doesn’t stop me from reading and admiring some of them, there’s such a thing as respecting the enemy.

T3ts50 · 09-10-2014, 04:35 PM

Driving a Camaro with flappy paddles in the US at the moment. Don't see the big deal about them and are highly overrated on an auto.

Alan D Segal · 09-10-2014, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by T3ts50

Driving a Camaro with flappy paddles in the US at the moment.

Don't forum and drive. It's dangerous.

PHawk · 12-10-2014, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by T3ts50

Driving a Camaro with flappy paddles in the US at the moment. Don't see the big deal about them and are highly overrated on an auto.

Got them in the SRT.....Never use them.

mik · 09-10-2014, 04:56 PM

Im not really enthused with paddle shifters, I would rather swap cogs the old fashioned way, can't findem grindem.

**Polyal** · 09-10-2014, 05:07 PM

Our Picasso has paddles....end any relevance for paddles.

FGX-351 · 09-10-2014, 08:02 PM

Didn't they already have paddles on the auto VZ SV6?

damo6 · 09-10-2014, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FGX-351

Didn't they already have paddles on the auto VZ SV6?

Yep and they were useless.

Bossxr8 · 09-10-2014, 08:05 PM

They would be fun for all of 10 minutes before the novelty wore off.

**kypez** · 09-10-2014, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

They would be fun for all of 10 minutes before the novelty wore off.

Drove a Camaro whilst in the USA and have to agree with that sentiment. Was cool for about 10 minutes before it annoyed the crap out of me.

Ben73 · 09-10-2014, 08:12 PM

If I was going have a performance car in auto, I'd like paddles. Drove a Gallardo with paddles a couple of years ago, it was great and changed very quickly. This was on a race track so foot buried to the floor accelerating up to 200 odd kmh with lighting fast gear charges was a good thing.
Doubt I would ever use in day to day use.

chookaradley · 09-10-2014, 08:39 PM

Paddle shifters. OMG that's it I have to have one !!!😱

csv8 · 09-10-2014, 08:52 PM

"V8s comprise no less than 37 per cent of Commodores and SS models now account for 24 per cent – the highest proportion ever. Holden says Calais V sales are up a hefty 142 per cent this year." from :
http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2014...-details-46683
No market for a luxury V8 sedan ???? so sad no G8E...missed opportunity.....

DMXR6T · 09-10-2014, 09:26 PM

I have Jaguar here in Singapore with flappy paddles and I never use them. Mind you it is a diesel and hence not a sporty, high revving engine. Still prefer my manual XR6T.

Grippy · 09-10-2014, 09:38 PM

Paddles are great, but if there is any kind of lag in the auto with shifts then it's a waste of time. Basically needs to be a world class box to benefit from paddles.

johnydep · 10-10-2014, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Grippy

Paddles are great, but if there is any kind of lag in the auto with shifts then it's a waste of time. Basically needs to be a world class box to benefit from paddles.

Agreed.

Wife's Honda Euro has paddles, they work great & is a lot of fun to use. The shift up or down is instant, leaving both hands on the wheel.

Road_Warrior · 09-10-2014, 10:39 PM

Paddles schmaddles. Didn't one of the iterations of the AU Tickfords have shift buttons on the steering wheel??

And where is the LS3?

FGX-351 · 09-10-2014, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Paddles schmaddles. Didn't one of the iterations of the AU Tickfords have shift buttons on the steering wheel??

And where is the LS3?

See that's a very good point, if I was buying a performance car having the better engine would be the higher priority on my list.

I suspect paddles would be the same as sequential sports shift in everyday driving, fun for all of 5 minutes then way to much effort to bother using.

5.4 GT · 09-10-2014, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fab

Paddle shift,

How long did that take for an Australian car to have that

STINKY NINJA · 09-10-2014, 11:23 PM

Probably be not so awesome like the shift buttons on a te50 steering wheel,press them and it shifts whenever it wants anyway lol

**Polyal** · 10-10-2014, 08:08 AM

The only time paddles are good is when you have a stupid gearbox calibration and you know when that particular car struggles under certain circumstances.

Other than that....get a manual.

johnydep · 10-10-2014, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

The only time paddles are good is when you have a stupid gearbox calibration and you know when that particular car struggles under certain circumstances.

Other than that....get a manual.

Obviously you haven't driven a vehicle with a quality auto paddle set up, properly.

Even top notch manuals are using a paddle or button system. It's not new technology, formula 1 was using it in the late 80's.

**Polyal** · 10-10-2014, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by johnydep

Obviously you haven't driven a vehicle with a quality auto paddle set up, properly.

Even top notch manuals are using a paddle or button system. It's not new technology, formula 1 was using it in the late 80's.

Hmm mustn't be that obvious because I have, I see the gimmick in it but certainly dont believe those few milli seconds are worth the loss of involvement when driving a nice car.

johnydep · 10-10-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Hmm mustn't be that obvious because I have, I see the gimmick in it but certainly dont believe those few milli seconds are worth the loss of involvement when driving a nice car.

We all love different things in our cars. Having a choice is a big part of the fun of a performance vehicle.

You may not like a "gimmick" but someone else might. At the end, it's up to the buyer.

I would pay extra for the option. As mentioned, my wifes Honda has it. The set up works very well, the shifts are instant and it feels safer than taking a hand of the steering wheel. I don't use it very often, but when I do it puts a smile on my face.

blueoval · 10-10-2014, 10:10 AM

I have flappy paddles on my 2007 liberty GT now, and this is news worthy for Holden in 2014?

That said, as long as the timing of the gear changes matches the drivers, then it will be good. If there is any delay, forget it.