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Old 28-12-2014, 07:18 AM   #1
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Sorry if it has been up before, but this is what we have been saying all along. Booking people for inattentiveness, and not just a couple kays over.
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Old 28-12-2014, 07:59 AM   #2
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I wonder if they'll be splitting lanes to scan through as many cars as possible in peak traffic, not sure bout WA but im pretty sure thats illegal in Vic but you still see police bikes doing it
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Bring it to the Eastern states I say.
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More people die on the roads in this country per year from idiots texting while driving than great white sharks, jelly fish, blue-ringed octopus, stone-fish, puffer fish, crocs, all spiders and all snakes combined. Now that's something you wont hear on X-factor.
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Sorry if it has been up before, but this is what we have been saying all along. Booking people for inattentiveness, and not just a couple kays over.http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/west...-1227154892109
This is a minority case surely? Everyone one I know who has received a ticket well and truly deserved it by being more than 'just a couple kays over'...

Police everywhere are probably using their better judgment already, hence the underwhelming amount of tickets issued for being just over the limit...
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This is a minority case surely? Everyone one I know who has received a ticket well and truly deserved it by being more than 'just a couple kays over'...

Police everywhere are probably using their better judgment already, hence the underwhelming amount of tickets issued for being just over the limit...
Yeah mate, I agree I have never been booked for just a couple over. But inattention is the main reason for accidents on our roads not speeding.
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inattention is the main reason for accidents on our roads not speeding.
That lady in the silver Territory at the end of that clip is a prime example. She had no idea what was going on around her.
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Yeah mate, I agree I have never been booked for just a couple over. But inattention is the main reason for accidents on our roads not speeding.
True, but I would add to that; alcohol, drugs and self entitlement...
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If the new initiative is going to make the road's safer in WA, i say go for it. Something similar here in NSW would be good!

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Just as a matter of interest, 1300 mobile phone Infringements, how much is that worth in dollars? ??
OK answered my own question with a bit of a Google, at 400 bucks and 3 demerit points for using a hand held mobile.......... it comes to $ 520,000

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Just as a matter of interest, 1300 mobile phone Infringements, how much is that worth in dollars? ??
OK answered my own question with a bit of a Google, at 400 bucks and 3 demerit points for using a hand held mobile.......... it comes to $ 520,000
$400 fine in Victoria I think, not sure about W.A. So almost half a mil. Guess that covers the costs of the new fleet of bikes.
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Just as a matter of interest, 1300 mobile phone Infringements, how much is that worth in dollars? ??
OK answered my own question with a bit of a Google, at 400 bucks and 3 demerit points for using a hand held mobile.......... it comes to $ 520,000
The best part about the Xmas break infringements is its double demerits over here so all those busted with a phone in hand end up with six demerit points!
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Just as a matter of interest, 1300 mobile phone Infringements, how much is that worth in dollars? ??
OK answered my own question with a bit of a Google, at 400 bucks and 3 demerit points for using a hand held mobile.......... it comes to $ 520,000
Yeah .. a bit lousy hey Mik? $1000 would be better....and told to walk a while.
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Yeah .. a bit lousy hey Mik? $1000 would be better....and told to walk a while.
And hand over the mobile for a period of time as well - that would hurt many (most?) where it hurts most!
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And hand over the mobile for a period of time as well - that would hurt many (most?) where it hurts most!
Half the country would come to a standstill. Most people think that the world didn't exist pre mobile phones. Ever been around somebody that left their phone at home or the battery has run dead?
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Old 28-12-2014, 11:53 AM   #16
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next will be a fine for "intent" to speed using precognition, if your doin 104 in a 100 zone and a camera could pick up on motion rather then a photo, the speed increasing could be calculated to a possiable outcome of future speed onces past the camera
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Old 28-12-2014, 12:03 PM   #17
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I wish they would just post an observer in contact with the bike cops at the train station s from the lines that run down the centre of the Kwinana freeway. While waiting to catch the train early in the morning from the elevated platform (Murdoch) I see about 1 in 10 drivers texting or talking on mobile phone while sitting at 100 km/hr plus in the right hand lane. Mostly YLs but also a few tradies and scaringly many truckies. These are obviously more dangerous than those stopped at lights and I fear that video is going to move the problem from the cars queuing at lights to those in motion at speed.
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Since riding a motorbike i have seen quite a few people driving while on the phone including one bloke towing a trailer on Bunbury bypass doing around 125kmh talking on the phone.
I think this is a good thing to do to save lives, and i think the people who have a problem with it are the ones who like to use there phones while behind the wheel.
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I think it's a good thing too, but lets look at those actually using a phone whilst driving.
Everyone in that video is stationary at a set of lights. If the vehicle isn't moving then it doesn't pose a danger to other road users.
If they continue to use the phone once on the move, then ping 'em.
But doing that whilst stationary is like shooting fish in a barrel.
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..........but they are totally distracted of their surroundings, my case in point the lady at the end of the video, she literally had no idea that he was there. Isn't it wise to keep an eye on the road as well to see any potential dangers that may be imminent?
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..........but they are totally distracted of their surroundings, my case in point the lady at the end of the video, she literally had no idea that he was there. Isn't it wise to keep an eye on the road as well to see any potential dangers that may be imminent?
Also didn't see the flashing lights. Too bad if an ambo is trying to get through while she is on the phone.
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I'm all for this new fleet of unmarked police bikes. The more they catch, the better.
Maybe I'm getting old and intolerable, but the culture (if that's what you call it?) on Perth roads has deteriorated significantly in recent years. Especially with the younger drivers. So more impatience, aggression and selfishness.
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Younger generation and even mine would be a huge culprit with twitter, facebook, tumblr you name it. They'll be on their phones either texting or using that, its funny I rarely see young people actually talking on their phones but heads buried in it probably updating their facebook status "suck in traffic fml".

I don't understand people who use loudspeaker on their phone trying not to get caught either, I mean **** regardless if the phone is next to your ear or your holding it to your mouth someone will notice. I say raise the fine for being on your phone and who cares if its revenue raising I've almost been hit countless times for it due to people lane drifting...
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Can't believe the number of comments from people saying it is not a problem to check your phone while stationary.
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Can't believe the number of comments from people saying it is not a problem to check your phone while stationary.
Yep, it is straight out against the law. My phone is my wallet so that can be a problem.
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W.A leading the way here, should be doing this in every state.
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imo, if they got back to fining drivers for the basics like not keeping left, not using an indicator, not merging properly etc it would curtail a lot of the other bad behavior on the road. would probably raise a lot more than speeding alone.
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Loved the video, thanks for sharing it XBROO! Sick of seeing people at red lights with their heads down all the time.
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That dude is so cool and the buggers got eyes like a hawk.

Great to see as I've lost count of how many times I've nearly been sideswiped by young girls drifting across while on their phones. Give the horn a short warning blast and they then panic and come close to causing a pile up.

These Police should also be issued with a small hammer and be able to smash the phones there and then.

Really ****** me off and there's no excuse.
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No; they should deliver them to me so I can jump up and down on them (rear ended 9 times now by mobile phone users while stopped at red lights). Seriously I think they should be crushed on the spot (using a mobile while moving is much worse than hooning I think). Perhaps they should be issued with a little hydraulic crushing device similar to a can crusher or oil filter crusher.
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