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03-02-2016, 05:15 PM | #1 | ||
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My wife was driving our Ford Territory when she was pulled over by the Highway Patrol in Melb.on 1st Feb.
One of the 3 rear stop lights was not working. Short story - no please fix it - just a Yellow unroadworty sticker and notice to fix it within 7 days or else . Did the job in about 45sec.(Territories and Falcon wagons seem to blow bulbs on a regular basis). (Are any bulbs made to last these days???) But now you have to take the car to Vic Roads to have it inspected and the 'unroadworthy' taken off. Went there today waited 45mins to be served -then they tell me its $45.10 for them to tell whether or not the brake lights are working. This new charge just happened to start from the (you guessed it) 1st Feb. To say I was unhappy and it was a complete waste of everyones time plus the added expenses of travel and loss of income is an understatment. Heaven forbid if they start to make you have a roadworthy as well- another $200 minimum. So suggest you check your lights regularly and change those Festoon bulbs on your trailer/caravan for something more robust.
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03-02-2016, 05:23 PM | #2 | ||
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Put LED bulbs in.
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03-02-2016, 07:24 PM | #3 | ||
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I have seen several weird electrical and running issues from the use of LED's
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03-02-2016, 10:39 PM | #4 | |||
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I had the same issue on a Subaru Forester, blown brake light bought up stability control light and disabled cruise control. |
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04-02-2016, 12:25 PM | #5 | ||
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They still fail, I have had 3 LED lights fail in my house (didnt get close to the 50,000 hours they were guaranteed to last) They were all replaced free of charge
One in three not working, suggest someone was having a bad day and took it out on your wife. Think in most instances police would use their discretion and simply ask her to get it fixed, or worst case scenario ask her to get it fixed and drive past a Police station so they can see its been done.
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03-02-2016, 05:26 PM | #6 | ||
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I have said for ages that there should be a list of 'offences' that should be a warning first.
And that is one of them. It's an honest mistake and can happen at any time. How proud this copper must be, going home saying 'I made a difference today'.... Sorry to hear, that would have ruined my day for such a petty thing. Yep, ready to be flamed about driver safety being the priority and how people should maintain their car correctly... take your best shots... Those that have never sinned be first in the line.
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03-02-2016, 05:30 PM | #7 | |||
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05-02-2016, 06:51 AM | #8 | ||
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Yep, he got $45.10 added to the state coffers. Awesome job.
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05-02-2016, 07:43 AM | #9 | ||
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Glad I posted this thread its been interesting reading all the posts.
Just want to make some comments on some of them. Firstly, my wife did not give the Police any attitude -she isn't that sort of person. The Territory was in otherwise excellent condition (not a bomb which would attract attention.) When pulled over she was only 200 meters from Home which they would have known. Ducatti 888 said put LED's in. Tried that a couple of years ago -caused havoc -had to take them out. As Ratter said "causes weird electrics". Some European cars have to have a special towing harness with a inbuilt control module to tow a trailer/caravan with LED's The Beast posted -carry spares and screwdriver. Gasolane quite rightly posted that op's wife wouldn't know how to change the Bulb. Lots of posts about checking them and how to check them. But they can blow at any time . As I mentioned not sure where the bulbs are manufactured these days but they don't seem to last that long anymore. Maybe its all the stop/start traffic on the Motorways.
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05-02-2016, 07:47 AM | #10 | ||
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Excellant reply champ
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03-02-2016, 05:28 PM | #11 | |||
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I was behind an idiot last night who has one tail light working, but the red lens was broken, so that was next to useless - the intact red lenses did not work at all. To top it off, said moron didn't use indicators on any of the 3 corners I was behind him for. |
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03-02-2016, 06:08 PM | #12 | |||
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After that 5 year run in the WB, Holden released it again in 1993 - this time in the VR Calais, Statesman & Caprice - all tail lights & brake lights are covered by the blown bulb light on the dash. |
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03-02-2016, 06:11 PM | #13 | ||
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My daughters 93 Merc has that system, very handy, as she wouldn't check anything that isn't displayed on the dash, oil, water etc... Same with my wife' newer Merc, scroll through the dash and it tells you everything that's needed or faulty.
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03-02-2016, 10:02 PM | #14 | |||
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04-02-2016, 11:18 PM | #15 | |||
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It's something they've included in some cars, and possibly decided it wasn't cost effective to include in the modern day vehicle.
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03-02-2016, 05:31 PM | #16 | ||
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Thanks JC,
I was going to ask if the terri warns of a blown globe. One tail-light in my Berlina wagon always plays up. Give it a thump and it comes on again. But the indicators go at double time if a bulb is out!
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03-02-2016, 05:31 PM | #17 | ||
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Wow, I got a trailer blue slip for $44.10 in nsw. About 12 years ago I copped a defect for " shiny front tyres" whatever that means and my mechanic cleared it for $17 as the tyres were new.. totally irrelevant now but what's the world coming to... $45 to make you spend pocket change on bulbs, thats rediculous. I'm sure a warning would have made you change the bulb
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03-02-2016, 05:34 PM | #18 | ||
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Shiny front tyres??? You are kidding, right????
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03-02-2016, 06:47 PM | #19 | ||
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It was just after they banned high performance cars for p platers...I got my p's before the ban so I was exempt. I guess the cop needed a reason to pull over a wb ute with an engineering plate for the 96 clubsport efi 5l with p plates on it... he went for me over the car that was doing 80 to overtake me... who knows...
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03-02-2016, 06:19 PM | #20 | ||
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You would think that it should be a mandatory safety item for all new cars much like warning chimes for belts and ice on the road....
What are we talking, some extra wires and a control module?? A few extra dollars on the production line, if that.
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03-02-2016, 06:36 PM | #21 | ||
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Common sense needs to used, the car has 3 stop lights, surley safety is not compremised as 2 are srill working. The HP must be hard up for numbers to ping you on that, they do have discresion but this cop dosn't see the mum and dad paying a mortgage and putting food in the table for the kids. What a grub, the cops have changed so much since I was in, (NSW). They are not taught to be a buman these days.
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03-02-2016, 07:33 PM | #22 | ||
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What makes this so silly is that the old Holden 48-215 only had a single tail light as standard. So now the cops reckon a vehicle with better tyres, brakes, suspension and steering needs three times the brake lights to be safe? Yeah... that makes sense. Not.
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03-02-2016, 09:40 PM | #23 | ||
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cops don't reckon it, the Australian Design Rules for the car dictate it.
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23-02-2016, 05:24 AM | #24 | |||
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I also note an ongoing debate about smoked taillight lenses; do they comply with ADRs? Not even the cops seem to know. The relevant ADRs only state that the taillights must be visible for 200m and the stop lights for 30m. And that's it.
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They only changed with the ADR introduction of the CHMSL - the high mounted 3rd brake light. Quote:
He claimed he didn't realise, and it must have happened accidentally (I called him out on this by pointing out the dash indicator, and the fact that on his car you have to pull out the headlight switch to turn them on). Quick thinking - he looked in the mirror, and noticed the cop car foglights were also on. With the utmost of diplomacy, pointed this out to her. The attitude quickly went from snarly to "have a nice night and don't let me catch you with them on again." Quote:
GM cars had the 4 speed trans from '81 in the USA. Took Holden another 7 years to get it (1988 VN - if you discount the 86 VL as a Jatco) and Ford were a bit longer again to the 4 speed EA. But in any case the whole "euro is better" thing doesn't apply here, as the "technology" and it's very basic technology, existed in Australian built cars decades earlier.... |
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04-02-2016, 09:09 AM | #26 | |||
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Why should police be asked to be selective about the law? He was doing his job and he should be commended for it. The problem is not with the HWP officer. It was and is the money grab by the government to get the inspection and all clear. That fee was excessive. Then again we all know that state governments use anything to do with vehicles as a cash cow. As for losing time to get it cleared for inspection. If it makes the owner check the tail lights more often, I would say job done. |
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04-02-2016, 09:41 AM | #27 | ||
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What he was doing was being was being a tool his job was to ensure that the car was safe, with 2 other brake lights it was safe. All that needed to be done was let the driver know and log it.
Police gain more credibility by using descresion and helping drivers not by burning them for this sort of stuff. Check your lifht every time u drive and one blows while you are driving and you get booked and a defected tell the cop "but i just checked them" and see if that will fly. Cops should be selective in these matters and the traffic act does allow for it. By your standard cars should be defected for tyres beung 2 psi light on air |
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03-02-2016, 06:27 PM | #30 | ||
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I believe most cars have a feature for letting you know about blown bulbs. When indicating the lights flash double time and the dash lights/tick is also double time. Not sure about Falcons, never had a blown bulb.
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