Is Australia the first.

ljf12 · 24-02-2017, 06:20 PM

Is Australia the only country ever to lose a highly developed motor vehicle manufacturing industry ?
I have had a look online and it appears that sadly this may well be the case.

mac_man_luke · 24-02-2017, 06:22 PM

UK has pretty much lost theres as well i believe

**Fordman1** · 24-02-2017, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mac_man_luke

UK has pretty much lost theres as well i believe

Lots of Mini's, Jag's, etc bring made there

Tonz · 24-02-2017, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

Lots of Mini's, Jag's, etc bring made there

true but owned by who? not the brits thats for sure.

**GasoLane** · 24-02-2017, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonz

true but owned by who? not the brits thats for sure.

To be fair Holden and Ford weren't owned by Australians either.

roddy1960 · 25-02-2017, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

To be fair Holden and Ford weren't owned by Australians either.

G'day...Good point and very true ..Just the same the cars were unique to Australia and built here..Neither applies after this year of course..Cheers Rod

**GasoLane** · 24-02-2017, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mac_man_luke

UK has pretty much lost theres as well i believe

According to Wiki there was 35 up to 2014

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...United_Kingdom

uniacidz · 03-03-2017, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mac_man_luke

UK has pretty much lost theres as well i believe

Sorry, wrong.

Complete opposite

17 year high for British car manufacturing as global demand hits record levels
26 JANUARY 2017 #SMMT NEWS #UK MANUFACTURING

https://www.smmt.co.uk/2017/01/17-ye...record-levels/

Brazen · 24-02-2017, 06:55 PM

Yep and with 1.1 million sales a year Australia will soon be the largest car market on the planet that does not have a local car industry.

mike_nofx · 24-02-2017, 07:04 PM

How many other countries lost their locally produced, country specific Ford models due to the One Ford program I wonder?

malazn mafia · 24-02-2017, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mike_nofx

How many other countries lost their locally produced, country specific Ford models due to the One Ford program I wonder?

I don't think there's any where else in the world where Fords were developed so entirely different from the rest of the Ford empire and for so many generations. Germany made the focus and Mondeo though, and the Taiwanese seem to have had a love for the blue oval and gone about creating their own weird and wonderful models and derivatives of Ford vehicles native to their own market.

roddy1960 · 24-02-2017, 08:15 PM

G'day ...I read somewhere recently that after Holden and Toyota quit at end of 2017 we will be the only G20 country to not produce motor vehicles...Kind of embarrassing isn't it ?
Too bad some billionaire wasn't about to knock out a kit car or something like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purvis_Eureka ... Would that technically get us off the hook ? OR..what if a Dick Smith type developed a Tesla style vehicle that we could export???....Pie in the sky stuff...
Ah well , with so much other manufacturing going west these days we're maybe going to become the Banana Republic one day that Keating mentioned a few decades ago. What about us whacking out a nice range of clothes pegs or are they already made offshore..... Cheers Rod....

Kieron · 24-02-2017, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mike_nofx

How many other countries lost their locally produced, country specific Ford models due to the One Ford program I wonder?

Off the top of my head, USA lost the Crown Victoria and the US only Focus, replaced by the Euro Focus due to One Ford.

Bossxr8 · 24-02-2017, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kieron

Off the top of my head, USA lost the Crown Victoria and the US only Focus, replaced by the Euro Focus due to One Ford.

The Crown Vic was lost cause it couldn't pass future crash tests. It was nothing to do with the gfc. And it was replaced with the taurus interceptor, which is unique to the US.

Kieron · 26-02-2017, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The Crown Vic was lost cause it couldn't pass future crash tests. It was nothing to do with the gfc. And it was replaced with the taurus interceptor, which is unique to the US.

Both incorrect. It was dropped as part of Mark Fields "Way Forwards" plan which called for a consolidation of platforms, the basis of One Ford. This is documented in the book American Icon.

The Taurus Interceptor was a replacement for the CV Interceptor, both essentially option packs on the base model therefore, it is not a stand alone unique to US model.

On the original question, NZ had a car manufacturing industry which has long gone.

MAGPIE · 26-02-2017, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kieron

On the original question, NZ had a car manufacturing industry which has long gone.

Incorrect, NZ had a car assembly industry not a car manufacturing industry which is substantially different.

Bossxr8 · 26-02-2017, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kieron

Both incorrect. It was dropped as part of Mark Fields "Way Forwards" plan which called for a consolidation of platforms, the basis of One Ford. This is documented in the book American Icon.

The Taurus Interceptor was a replacement for the CV Interceptor, both essentially option packs on the base model therefore, it is not a stand alone unique to US model.

On the original question, NZ had a car manufacturing industry which has long gone.

The cv was body on frame. It could never be engineered to pass future crash tests. And the us taurus is unique to the us, its not sold anywhere else. I wasnt implying the interceptor was unique, the taurus it is based on is. You misinterpretted. The chinese taurus is on the mondeo platform, the us taurus is the old volvo/ford eucd? Platform first used on the xc90.

Ford17 · 24-02-2017, 08:15 PM

Every other nation develops, nurtures and promotes their car industry.

b0son · 24-02-2017, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ford17

Every other nation develops, nurtures and promotes their car industry.

Pretty sure they had industries that sold cars that (a) people bought, and (b) had export customers.

BlueBear · 24-02-2017, 08:34 PM

What other federal Government in the world doesn't use locally made vehicles for their fleet?
Can you imagine the US using Mercedes or BMW for their politicians?
Or Germany using cars from some other country?
Shows the national pride stemming from the top down.
Would have been so easy to save, but it's not in the best SHORT TERM interest of any recent government.

Cheers,

SumoDog68 · 24-02-2017, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueBear

What other federal Government in the world doesn't use locally made vehicles for their fleet?
Can you imagine the US using Mercedes or BMW for their politicians?
Or Germany using cars from some other country?
Shows the national pride stemming from the top down.
Would have been so easy to save, but it's not in the best SHORT TERM interest of any recent government.

Cheers,

Some BMWs and MB are locally made in the US.

marty351 · 24-02-2017, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SumoDog68

Some BMWs and MB are locally made in the US.

And VW

**ebxr8240** · 25-02-2017, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueBear

What other federal Government in the world doesn't use locally made vehicles for their fleet?
Can you imagine the US using Mercedes or BMW for their politicians?
Or Germany using cars from some other country?
Shows the national pride stemming from the top down.
Would have been so easy to save, but it's not in the best SHORT TERM interest of any recent government.

Cheers,

Plus sell off our electricity, land etc...
NZ only assembled .. Using some local parts like carpet etc..

nstg8a · 25-02-2017, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueBear

What other federal Government in the world doesn't use locally made vehicles for their fleet?
Can you imagine the US using Mercedes or BMW for their politicians?
Or Germany using cars from some other country?
Shows the national pride stemming from the top down.
Would have been so easy to save, but it's not in the best SHORT TERM interest of any recent government.

Cheers,

Well the USA does use Australian made cars as cop cars...

roKWiz · 01-03-2017, 10:28 AM

We still have a healthy locally produced truck manufacturing industry here with Kenworth in Melbourne and Mack (Volvo) in Brisbane.
Kenworth trucks Aust. have custom built their models since 1971 using locally sourced suppliers, cabs, glass, frame rails etc. engines of course were US imports as were Mack trucks.
Kenworth continued with the Aussie built K200 long after the yanks gave up on cabovers (due to their relaxation of length laws)

K.T.A still operate independently to their parent company Pacific Car Co.

Joe5619 · 01-03-2017, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

We still have a healthy locally produced truck manufacturing industry here with Kenworth in Melbourne and Mack (Volvo) in Brisbane.
Kenworth trucks Aust. have custom built their models since 1971 using locally sourced suppliers, cabs, glass, frame rails etc. engines of course were US imports as were Mack trucks.
Kenworth continued with the Aussie built K200 long after the yanks gave up on cabovers (due to their relaxation of length laws)

K.T.A still operate independently to their parent company Pacific Car Co.

We build trucks here?? Who keen

Hopefully we can keep that...

I know it's all over, but such a shame we couldn't keep manufacturing (all kinds) jobs in Australia. I wonder if there will ever be a time (20/30/40/50/100 years time), when these jobs might start coming back to Australia.

mike_nofx · 05-03-2017, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

We still have a healthy locally produced truck manufacturing industry here with Kenworth in Melbourne and Mack (Volvo) in Brisbane.
Kenworth trucks Aust. have custom built their models since 1971 using locally sourced suppliers, cabs, glass, frame rails etc. engines of course were US imports as were Mack trucks.
Kenworth continued with the Aussie built K200 long after the yanks gave up on cabovers (due to their relaxation of length laws)

K.T.A still operate independently to their parent company Pacific Car Co.

If Kenworth designed and built an Australian made Groswold-esque Family Truckster I'd be all over that. I'd place an order tomorrow.

kevino · 05-03-2017, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mike_nofx

If Kenworth designed and built an Australian made Groswold-esque Family Truckster I'd be all over that. I'd place an order tomorrow.

thats a bloody good idea.

A Kenworth T100 3.5 tonne ute/truck also suitable to be used by Govco as an ambulance police dog wagon paddy wagon etc. Brilliant idea.
Twin pipes and a medium sized cummns diesel complete with jacobs brake (engine brake)

roKWiz · 05-03-2017, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kevino

thats a bloody good idea.

A Kenworth T100 3.5 tonne ute/truck also suitable to be used by Govco as an ambulance police dog wagon paddy wagon etc. Brilliant idea.
Twin pipes and a medium sized cummns diesel complete with jacobs brake (engine brake)

Here you go.
Took these pics last year. both built around Isuzu running gear.

half K100

Nikked · 23-03-2017, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

We still have a healthy locally produced truck manufacturing industry here with Kenworth in Melbourne and Mack (Volvo) in Brisbane.
Kenworth trucks Aust. have custom built their models since 1971 using locally sourced suppliers, cabs, glass, frame rails etc. engines of course were US imports as were Mack trucks.
Kenworth continued with the Aussie built K200 long after the yanks gave up on cabovers (due to their relaxation of length laws)

K.T.A still operate independently to their parent company Pacific Car Co.

Forgot Iveco building Acco's here.