Nsw - Victorian border

boss351290 · 06-04-2020, 06:04 PM

Hi,
Looking at travelling from nsw to Victoria and back again to pick up a car. Are the borders still open????

Only information I can find was published on 24.3.2020 and stated borders are open... it’s a bit old now...

Are they still open???

scottc · 06-04-2020, 06:09 PM

I believe they are closed at the moment

scottc · 06-04-2020, 06:13 PM

But reading the cross border issues site it says Victoria has not imposed closures or restrictions on our state’s borders.

Which town do you want to cross at?

Citroënbender · 06-04-2020, 06:23 PM

I read the VicPol info carefully, there’s no explicitly relevant information. Google shows no traffic blockages at the border either.

Surely if you are at risk of forfeiture or unexpected storage fees, you would breeze through any inquiries.

baboon · 06-04-2020, 06:36 PM

Fingers crossed that border restrictions dont change whilst picking up the car, but good luck with it!

**Gothefalcon** · 06-04-2020, 06:50 PM

As far as I understand it, NSW ACT and Vic borders have not been closed.
WA NT SA QLD & Tas borders have been closed.

That means, for instance... I can drive from Sadelaide into Vic or NSW no problemo.. but I can't get back into SA without self isolating.

I know it doesn't make much sense to some... but if a State (or Territory) hasn't closed it's borders and a neighbouring State has... The Police in the closed State can only stop you from coming in... they have no durisdiction to stop you leaving (unless you've committed a crime whilst visiting, of course

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There may be rules in NSW & Vic around travelling about for no good reason etc though... so you might just want to check you're not falling foul of anything like that !??

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boss351290 · 06-04-2020, 06:45 PM

Going through Albury through to Melbourne and back to Newcastle

jgmdat · 06-04-2020, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by boss351290

Going through Albury through to Melbourne and back to Newcastle

So if you have the China Virus already and I sincerely hope you don't, Imagine the potential damage to people and communities if you take that road trip.

xxx000 · 06-04-2020, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jgmdat

So if you have the China Virus already and I sincerely hope you don't, Imagine the potential damage to people and communities if you take that road trip.

Or get it on the way and spread it to many others on the way and to your family on your return

boss351290 · 06-04-2020, 06:46 PM

If it happens

baboon · 06-04-2020, 06:52 PM

Cant find anything about closure from the Stage 3 restrictions on the vic gov website.

Is it essential travel? If not then it would be a risk if you got caught...

scottc · 06-04-2020, 06:58 PM

Some info on stage 3 here https://www.rdv.vic.gov.au/about-rdv...-border-issues

Itsme · 06-04-2020, 08:04 PM

Victoria & NSW borders are open, both state governments did not think there was any need to shut down crossing the border.

Tickford. · 06-04-2020, 08:06 PM

Simply put, no.. you are not allowed to according to VIC stage 3 restrictions. Driving a car to NSW because you just purchased it would fall foul of the 'essential travel only' legislation.

If you want to take a punt and risk a hefty fine, then that's up to you.

Heck, VIC Police have fined L platers for driving with a parent during stage 3 restrictions. Would've thought that would be fine under 'educational purposes' rule, which you are allowed to travel for.

**PG2** · 06-04-2020, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tickford.

Simply put, no.. you are not allowed to according to VIC stage 3 restrictions. Driving a car to NSW because you just purchased it would fall foul of the 'essential travel only' legislation.

If you want to take a punt and risk a hefty fine, then that's up to you.

Heck, VIC Police have fined L platers for driving with a parent during stage 3 restrictions. Would've thought that would be fine under 'educational purposes' rule, which you are allowed to travel for.

Where did you read that?

Do you have a link?

JAYMZ · 06-04-2020, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PG2

Where did you read that?

Do you have a link?

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...ravel-c-959263

**Ratmick** · 09-04-2020, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JAYMZ

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...ravel-c-959263

That was was withdrawn the following day...

Tickford. · 06-04-2020, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PG2

Where did you read that?

Do you have a link?

Here's one example:

https://www.3aw.com.au/teenage-learn...d-19-lockdown/

With the reduced of traffic on the roads, Vic Police have to find other ways to raise lost revenue due to less traffic infringements being issued now.

Itsme · 08-04-2020, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tickford.

Simply put, no.. you are not allowed to according to VIC stage 3 restrictions. Driving a car to NSW because you just purchased it would fall foul of the 'essential travel only' legislation.

If you want to take a punt and risk a hefty fine, then that's up to you.

Heck, VIC Police have fined L platers for driving with a parent during stage 3 restrictions. Would've thought that would be fine under 'educational purposes' rule, which you are allowed to travel for.

Fake news, if you have valid reason to be on the road then border crossing is ok.

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 08-04-2020, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Officemanager

Fake news, if you have valid reason to be on the road then border crossing is ok.

Problem is, everyone on here has differing opinion as to what qualifies as 'valid reason'.

I'm not convinced that buying a new (to you) car would be considered a valid reason. Hence the advice on here to not take the risk.

However, if the individual wants to take that punt, that's up to them. And chances are, it would be unlikely that they would even be pulled over. But if they were....the determination of a 'valid reason' would be up to the discretion of the police officer pulling you over.

Itsme · 08-04-2020, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

Problem is, everyone on here has differing opinion as to what qualifies as 'valid reason'.

I'm not convinced that buying a new (to you) car would be considered a valid reason. Hence the advice on here to not take the risk.

However, if the individual wants to take that punt, that's up to them. And chances are, it would be unlikely that they would even be pulled over. But if they were....the determination of a 'valid reason' would be up to the discretion of the police officer pulling you over.

If the vehicle is required for essential purpose and you follow the governments guidelines then it will be fine, I don't see any restrictions on travel distance at all in the guidelines put out by the NSW or Victorian governments.
Last weekend I traveled 200k's to get a part for my vehicle to repair which was essential, I saved many $$$ in doing so and did not come in close contact with seller. I could have traveled less distance and pay more exorbitant price, did I break any laws?

Trevor 57 · 08-04-2020, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Officemanager

Fake news, if you have valid reason to be on the road then border crossing is ok.

not fake news here in Victoria, a L plater did get booked, the fine was $1600, she was 13 k's from home, they pulled it and issued a warning, but it did happen

Itsme · 08-04-2020, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

not fake news here in Victoria, a L plater did get booked, the fine was $1600, she was 13 k's from home, they pulled it and issued a warning, but it did happen

Trevor "fake news" Border is open, L plater was booked for not complying to essential reasons to be on roads has nothing to do with the topic of border crossing.

Cheers.

xxx000 · 06-04-2020, 08:36 PM

I agree you'd be liable for a fine as it's not essential travel

jgmdat · 06-04-2020, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by boss351290

Hi,
Looking at travelling from nsw to Victoria and back again to pick up a car. Are the borders still open????

Only information I can find was published on 24.3.2020 and stated borders are open... it’s a bit old now...

Are they still open???

You could look up #Stay the F*#K at home on Youtube for advice.

Tickford. · 06-04-2020, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jgmdat

You could look up #Stay the F*#K at home on Youtube for advice.

Well said. Some idiots still don't get it do they? They are the reason why this situation will be made worse, and continue for longer than required.

Trendseeker · 06-04-2020, 09:18 PM

The latest news is that the Vic Police are going to review the fine, implying that she might be let off if she was close to home.

NSW Police say it’s okay for learners to drive.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/l-pl...06-p54hlf.html

xxx000 · 06-04-2020, 09:13 PM

You'd actually potentially cop multiple fines if you kept going despite being directed to not continue
Use a car transport company instead

oldel · 06-04-2020, 10:25 PM

Borders aren't closed but they fine anyone for non essential travel over there don't they?

Over here borders are closed and checkpoints are established turning back traffic on major travel points too. A bit like the 'containing the city' from regional areas like they did after WW1.

Non essential city and suburban activity hasn't been clamped down and stopped with fines like over there. They just don't want people traveling out of the city.
Strange differences hey?

boss351290 · 07-04-2020, 02:25 AM

Best stay at home I think. Thanks for advice everyone.