Australia's most powerful ute!

[Vesper Martini]

I know this is a speculative article but would a straight-six diesel producing a punchy 205kW and 588Nm, be enough to convert Hilux and Ranger owners?

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...l-cab-could-be

[simon varley]

okay. I'll be first......


...its not a ute, it's a truck

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by simon varley

okay. I'll be first......


...its not a ute, it's a truck

That ain't no truck.

[Vesper Martini]

Kia version looks to have the engine
https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...the-game-79440

[Bossxr8]

205 kw will look pretty weak soon.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

205 kw will look pretty weak soon.

Coming from you, that sounds like their is something to be excited by with the new Ranger.

[GO FURTHER]

If Kia dropped the Stinger V6 twin turbo in a ute... It would be game, set and match!

[Franco Cozzo]

Korean Special FTW

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

If Kia dropped the Stinger V6 twin turbo in a ute... It would be game, set and match!

That diesel would out perform the v6 twin turbo in a ute, and use a fraction of the fuel so why would you do that?

[Yellow_Festiva]

Same engine as in Genesis GV80.

I've driven it, very very nice mill.

The front of that ute is the Palisade, only diesel currently is the 2.2L they use in everything else.

This could pave the way for a N Series Palisade with the 3L diesel.

If Kia put a tray on the Telluride and use the same 3L donk it should sell well.

Geeze, last diesel they will develop. :(

[redxm]

pfft. diesel and lacking 100 or more kw. wont sway me

[Top_Ghia]

Remember Maloo’s and Pursuit utes? Now they were powerful utes.
Now people froth over 200kw oil burning pick ups.

[Ford17]

Originally Posted by Top_Ghia

Remember Maloo’s and Pursuit utes? Now they were powerful utes.
Now people froth over 200kw oil burning pick ups.

And were also Australian.

[Top_Ghia]

Originally Posted by Ford17

And were also Australian.

The problem was nobody was buying them. Now they sell every duel cab they can land in the country.
I’m a Ford man but I was checking out one of the last Maloo utes last week. What a weapon.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Top_Ghia

The problem was nobody was buying them. Now they sell every duel cab they can land in the country.
I’m a Ford man but I was checking out one of the last Maloo utes last week. What a weapon.

No tax advantages scams in Malloo 💸💸💸

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Top_Ghia

The problem was nobody was buying them. Now they sell every duel cab they can land in the country.

Only thanks to a newly introduced ABN tax incentives introduced around the same time these dual cab utes started appearing.

Lets take that incentive away and see the real figures.

[CobraJet351]

Feels like 1998 again with our amazing 185kw v8's. In fairness these new utes have come a very long way.

[tasdex]

Will be interesting to see if it does better than the fuggn dangerous hilux in the moose test .

Google it .

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by tasdex

Will be interesting to see if it does better than the fuggn dangerous hilux in the moose test .

Google it .

Off Topic, but please don't Judge cars by the Moose test.
the drivers can deliberately fail a car, besides that they recon 70% of divers could even do the maneuver and crash anyway.
also:
'Tekniken Varld’s moose tests also says that a Nissan Qashqai (84 km/h) is better at avoiding obstacles than a 991 generation Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS and a McLaren 570S, both did only 81 km/h.'

https://www.wapcar.my/news/why-toyot...elieve-it-2846.

Bottom line if a moose steps out in front of you on a country road where you are travelling above 80kph any way. you will crash if you try and swerve like they do in the test.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

That diesel would out perform the v6 twin turbo in a ute, and use a fraction of the fuel so why would you do that?

No it wouldn't. 270 and 530 vs 205 and 588, and would be lighter weight. It would easily outperform the diesel. In acceleration terms anyway. Or are you referring to other areas, such as towing?

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

looks like the journo's Headline "Australia's most powerful ute!" has taken the bait with a few.

thing is the twin cab is is not what the Aussie Ute was, but its no truck either.

The thing doesn't even exist, so the headline is a joke anyway. Especially considering the Silverado and Ram are already available here, and are more powerful. So even if it did exist, the headline would still be 100% false.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

No it wouldn't. 270 and 530 vs 205 and 588, and would be lighter weight. It would easily outperform the diesel. In acceleration terms anyway. Or are you referring to other areas, such as towing?



The thing doesn't even exist, so the headline is a joke anyway. Especially considering the Silverado and Ram are already available here, and are more powerful. So even if it did exist, the headline would still be 100% false.

Stinger has an incredible engine but is 510Nm not 530Nm I believe the 588 in the diesel would be enough to make the heavier ute quicker.


yes headline is a joke, but I stated that. you are first to point out the American options

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Stinger has an incredible engine but is 510Nm not 530Nm I believe the 588 in the diesel would be enough to make the heavier ute quicker.


yes headline is a joke, but I stated that. you are first to point out the American options

Power is more important in a drag race than torque. The petrol engine would out accelerate the heavier diesel, with a narrower powerband.

And it's not like the turbo petrol suffers from a lack of low down torque either. It peaks at something like 1800 rpm.

[Vesper Martini]

looks like the journo's Headline "Australia's most powerful ute!" has taken the bait with a few.

thing is the twin cab is is not what the Aussie Ute was, but its no truck either.

IMO its turned into a vehicle that can transport the family, go on weekenders can tow and can also be practical as a work vehicle and thus gets the ABN incentives

a Maloo or FPV may have been a lot quicker but it has more in common with a 2 door sports car, and sold about as well.

in comparison twin cabs sell very well.



this last stand by the Koreans of a diesel engine, has similar specs to the BMW 30D.
it will be a nice drive

[FTE217]

more powerful or not if those pics are what they are looking like come production runs I'll take a Amarok V6 over them anyday.
Looks like they copied the fugly Triton, such a woeful design.

[Ben73]

Ram is now sold here. 291 is more than 205

Or GMSV 313kws

[bathurst77]

why does the back door window line in every twin cab have to tilt up at an angle? /

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by bathurst77

why does the back door window line in every twin cab have to tilt up at an angle? /

Ugly look imho... looked good on those sedans with the flowing "coke bottle" hip...but some won't even know what that means....

[BENT_8]

Im pretty sure they mention diesel engine in the sentence that claims Australia's most powerful ute so im not sure what RAM etc. has to do with it.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Im pretty sure they mention diesel engine in the sentence that claims Australia's most powerful ute so im not sure what RAM etc. has to do with it.

Pretty sure the intention was just to compare the diesel utes. TBH I didnt even think of Ram.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Pretty sure the intention was just to compare the diesel utes. TBH I didnt even think of Ram.

The Silverado diesel V8 makes more than 205 kw anyway. So even that is irrelevant.