417 km/h on German Autobahn

gutza · 09-02-2022, 09:06 PM

Ummmm.

https://7news.com.au/news/crime/prob...bahn-c-5624766

Ford17 · 09-02-2022, 09:55 PM

Impressive to see how fast 417 k's looks in action.
Wouldn't want a truck or another vehicle to suddenly pull out in front of the lane, though.

Syndrome · 09-02-2022, 10:37 PM

And contrary to what the government has been telling us, speed does not kill.

Inappropriate speed kills!

Interceptor · 10-02-2022, 01:59 AM

I'm not seeing the problem?

**DJM83** · 10-02-2022, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Interceptor

I'm not seeing the problem?

Me either.
Play on.

That speed looks incredible. Wonder long the stop took.

MFL · 10-02-2022, 07:16 AM

I can just see all the 'experts' in transport NSW having seizures , some one hits 400km/h on an appropriately designed highway and does not suddenly cause mass fatalities.

Although the guy driving in a racing suit

roKWiz · 10-02-2022, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

That speed looks incredible. Wonder how long the stop took.

A Bugatti, Probably 5 mins when he ran out of fuel !!

Trevor 57 · 10-02-2022, 07:35 AM

all fantastic until someone inadvertently moves into the lane doing 200km/h - the closing speed would be enormous

Franco Cozzo · 10-02-2022, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

all fantastic until someone inadvertently moves into the lane doing 200km/h - the closing speed would be enormous

Nah, they actually drive properly over there.

Here, being a good driver means sitting in the right hand lane at 30 under the limit.

Trevor 57 · 10-02-2022, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Nah, they actually drive properly over there.

Here, being a good driver means sitting in the right hand lane at 30 under the limit.

of course they do - have a look at what they have in place for emergency response - if they all drive so well, why do they need this?

Bossxr8 · 10-02-2022, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

of course they do - have a look at what they have in place for emergency response - if they all drive so well, why do they need this?

They actually train them how to drive properly over there. Getting a licence is a long process of rigorous training, including autobahn driving rules/standards.

Their driving skills are about 1000 times better than your average victorian who spends a few hours behind the wheel being taught bad habits by crappy driver trainers. And an attitude of if I drive 10kms under the speed limit i barely even need to watch the road.

Franco Cozzo · 10-02-2022, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

They actually train them how to drive properly over there. Getting a licence is a long process of rigorous training, including autobahn driving rules/standards.

Their driving skills are about 1000 times better than your average victorian who spends a few hours behind the wheel being taught bad habits by crappy driver trainers. And an attitude of if I drive 10kms under the speed limit i barely even need to watch the road.

Yeah, you just need to see our TAC ads in VIC to see their agenda, like the latest one about a bloke throwing his Falcon off an embankment because he was doing 90 in an 80 zone

Maybe the problem was he was taught how to drive in Victoria?

They've just reduced a few 100 zones to 80 here and a 60 zone down to 40 recently in Bulla in the north western suburbs of Melbourne, it's like they're encouraging me to read AFF while I'm driving.

Let's reduce the Calder Freeway to 40km/h between Kangaroo Flat and Keilor Park, just to save lives of course.

Trevor 57 · 10-02-2022, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

They actually train them how to drive properly over there. Getting a licence is a long process of rigorous training, including autobahn driving rules/standards.

Their driving skills are about 1000 times better than your average victorian who spends a few hours behind the wheel being taught bad habits by crappy driver trainers. And an attitude of if I drive 10kms under the speed limit i barely even need to watch the road.

ahhh OK, so the driver was German and no other Nationalities else can drive on it - I get it now

Now, what was the Nationality of the driver again? and he obtained a German licence to drive the Autobahn

Ben73 · 10-02-2022, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

of course they do - have a look at what they have in place for emergency response - if they all drive so well, why do they need this?

On the autobahn the average speed is about 150.
Enthusiasts in high performance cars do a lot more than that.

Yet they still have a lower road death toll than us. How does that work since our authorities are sure that fining people for doing 3km/h over the limit is saving the world.

Trevor 57 · 11-02-2022, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

On the autobahn the average speed is about 150.
Enthusiasts in high performance cars do a lot more than that.

Yet they still have a lower road death toll than us. How does that work since our authorities are sure that fining people for doing 3km/h over the limit is saving the world.

I have never disputed that our licencing is ****, in fact I agree with you on that point

But...........serious accidents happen on that road all the time and to deny that would be foolish, you can try but you would lying

whitelion65 · 10-02-2022, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

all fantastic until someone inadvertently moves into the lane doing 200km/h - the closing speed would be enormous

Well, according to my calculations, it would be 217km/h ;-)

CoupeKing · 10-02-2022, 08:42 AM

'' For those that say it was irresponsible and dangerous:
4:50am on Sunday
10 cars per 10km so 1 car per 1 km
Good visibility is about 3-4km straight ahead so there is enough time to react.
The Chiron can brake from 400 to 0 in 9 sec. within 490m.
All cars are in the far right lane.
There was an earlier drive through the section to make sure there is nothing on the road.
There is a fence along the whole stretch of the highway, so no animals can interfere.
3 people were spotting on 3 bridges for maximum safety.
If you still think it’s irresponsible and dangerous, well, we respect your personal opinion.

What did the guy in the Porsche feel like when he was overtaken at 417?
Here is his testimony, as he was another spotter to make sure everything was safe:

As I drove the yellow Porsche 911 Turbo S at over 200 km / h, I absolutely didn't understand how the car could overtake me so fast. The moment the Bugatti passed me, was absolutely stunning. It was like a fighter jet flew by. The speed and roar of the engine cannot be forgotten. Absolutely amazing experience.
CR ''

**DJM83** · 10-02-2022, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CoupeKing

'' For those that say it was irresponsible and dangerous:
4:50am on Sunday
10 cars per 10km so 1 car per 1 km
Good visibility is about 3-4km straight ahead so there is enough time to react.
The Chiron can brake from 400 to 0 in 9 sec. within 490m.
All cars are in the far right lane.
There was an earlier drive through the section to make sure there is nothing on the road.
There is a fence along the whole stretch of the highway, so no animals can interfere.
3 people were spotting on 3 bridges for maximum safety.
If you still think it’s irresponsible and dangerous, well, we respect your personal opinion.

What did the guy in the Porsche feel like when he was overtaken at 417?
Here is his testimony, as he was another spotter to make sure everything was safe:

As I drove the yellow Porsche 911 Turbo S at over 200 km / h, I absolutely didn't understand how the car could overtake me so fast. The moment the Bugatti passed me, was absolutely stunning. It was like a fighter jet flew by. The speed and roar of the engine cannot be forgotten. Absolutely amazing experience.
CR ''

Id love to see some footage from that car, or any car he passed

simon varley · 10-02-2022, 10:18 AM

it's not the speed that's the problem if you read it carefully. it's because it is a race. even a 'single vehicle race'

Vesper Martini · 10-02-2022, 11:23 AM

"Under German law, driving at such speeds is punishable even if, as in this case, it was a so-called solo race, provided the driver was travelling “at an inappropriate speed and in a grossly irregular and reckless manner in order to achieve the highest possible speed.”

If found guilty, Passer faces imprisonment of up to two years or a fine."

He will get a fine, that's it

Crazy Dazz · 10-02-2022, 12:34 PM

Just shows how pointless such cars have become
What is the point of owning a car who's selling point is doing 400kph

Like buying a supersonic fighter jet, and never leaving the ground.

Don't get me wrong, they are obviously an incredible feat of engineering, and creds to this bloke and his team for actually putting it to the test, but for most owners they'd actually be better off with the implant.

Junkyard-Dog · 10-02-2022, 12:37 PM

All fun and games til it goes wrong and somebody dies/is maimed for life.

T3rminator · 10-02-2022, 12:55 PM

Haven't driven on the autobahn, but have driven in various parts of Europe.

My observation is that people there are generally more courteous when it comes to driving.

This includes not being a left hand bandit (or right hand here). Its not common that you get some numptie on the outer lane going "slow", like you do here.
Outer lanes are generally left clear for the aeroplanes. The fuzz are also much more likely to catch you if you hog the outer lane going slow. That's not to say it couldn't happen....but odds are less likely.

417 does seem a bit excessive though

**DJM83** · 10-02-2022, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard-Dog

All fun and games til it goes wrong and somebody dies/is maimed for life.

Whilst i do agree it would be sad.
Their road toll doesnt seem to be as bad as ours. And IMO i think it comes down to driver training.
https://www.bitre.gov.au/publication...ty_comparisons

Apologies for the off topic.

Vesper Martini · 10-02-2022, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Whilst i do agree it would be sad.
Their road doesnt seem to be as bad as ours. And IMO i think it comes down to driver training.
https://www.bitre.gov.au/publication...ty_comparisons
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Apologies for the off topic.

NZ pretty bad aye.

Norway produces the best Rally divers and look where they are!

Junkyard-Dog · 10-02-2022, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Whilst i do agree it would be sad.
Their road toll doesnt seem to be as bad as ours. And IMO i think it comes down to driver training.
https://www.bitre.gov.au/publication...ty_comparisons
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Apologies for the off topic.

As a Kraut myself, I know very well how much better most European nations handle driver instruction but that's largely irrelevant here. All the skill in the world won't help this bloke if an obstacle appears in his path. The car may have incredible technological aids to assist the driver but that won't help much either if he runs over an oil slick and loses traction. At that speed, you would have no chance of reacting.

**DJM83** · 10-02-2022, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard-Dog

As a Kraut myself, I know very well how much better most European nations handle driver instruction but that's largely irrelevant here. All the skill in the world won't help this bloke if an obstacle appears in his path. The car may have incredible technological aids to assist the driver but that won't help much either if he runs over an oil slick and loses traction. At that speed, you would have no chance of reacting.

Oh yeah im not denying that at all.
Guess that theres just a tiny bit less of a chance of something going wrong in those conditions than here for instance.
But yeah if it did go wrong then you'd be dead before you could even react to the situation.

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

So I post some facts and the residents sooks start sooking - unreal

Which fact did i miss it?

slowsnake · 11-02-2022, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard-Dog

As a Kraut myself, I know very well how much better most European nations handle driver instruction but that's largely irrelevant here. All the skill in the world won't help this bloke if an obstacle appears in his path. The car may have incredible technological aids to assist the driver but that won't help much either if he runs over an oil slick and loses traction. At that speed, you would have no chance of reacting.

Look at Barry Sheen coming off his bike practising for the Daytona 200 in 1975, It made him famous, he doing 170 mph with the tyres on the "chicken strip" around a bend into the straight, they blame the tyres, but in his biography he said his tyre run over a " worm "
Have a look, damn heavy crash!

https://bangshift.com/bangshiftapex/...crash-in-1975/

Trevor 57 · 10-02-2022, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Whilst i do agree it would be sad.
Their road toll doesnt seem to be as bad as ours. And IMO i think it comes down to driver training.
https://www.bitre.gov.au/publication...ty_comparisons
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Apologies for the off topic.

if we were to read that through COVID eyes, those figures are all lies

roKWiz · 10-02-2022, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Whilst i do agree it would be sad.
Their road toll doesnt seem to be as bad as ours. And IMO i think it comes down to driver training.
https://www.bitre.gov.au/publication...ty_comparisons
image

Apologies for the off topic.

Those figures can't be right. Most ACT-ens just crash in other states.