Vfacts april 2022

**DFB FGXR6** · 04-05-2022, 09:21 PM

"Australia’s new car sales fell a sharp 12.2 per cent in April compared to the same month in 2021, as supply constraints continue to take their toll."

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-sales-numbers

Toyota 17,956 Down 11.1
Mazda 7378 Down 26.6
Mitsubishi 6463 Down 14.0
Kia 6180 Up 8.3
Hyundai 5552 Down 3.8
Ford 4974 Down 30.4
MG 4773 Up 58.7
Isuzu Ute 3032 Up 6.4
Mercedes 2682 Up 3.8
Nissan 2050 Down 41.4

Toyota HiLux 4493
Ford Ranger 3581
Toyota RAV4 3373
Mazda CX-5 2701
Isuzu D-Max 2374
Mitsubishi Triton 2357
Toyota Corolla 2202
Hyundai i30 2071
MG ZS 1923
Toyota Prado 1631

Ford Numbers -
Ford EcoSport 0
Ford Endura 0
Ford Escape 153
Ford Everest 758
Ford Fiesta 2
Ford Focus 3
Ford Mondeo 0
Ford Mustang 97
Ford Puma 277
Ford Ranger 4X2 220
Ford Ranger 4X4 3,361
Ford Transit Bus 2
Ford Transit Custom 62
Ford Transit Heavy 39
Ford Total 4,974

Franco Cozzo · 04-05-2022, 09:29 PM

Where's Tesla?

Falcon SXR8 · 04-05-2022, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Where's Tesla?

They sold a whopping 52 according to the article.

Bossxr8 · 05-05-2022, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

They sold a whopping 52 according to the article.

What was all the aggressive garbage about last month from you know who, would was in complete denial that Tesla smudged the March figures by adding January and Febuary's numbers to March's to get a big number?

This just shows how wrong he was. And apparently I should apoligize for pointing it out

**kypez** · 05-05-2022, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

What was all the aggressive garbage about last month from you know who, would was in complete denial that Tesla smudged the March figures by adding January and Febuary's numbers to March's to get a big number?

This just shows how wrong he was. And apparently I should apoligize for pointing it out

Only one sprouting garbage here is you. We all knew that the numbers were going to drop in April. I even said it would. They didn't get any ships across. Shanghai is in lockdown with no boats leaving there for Tesla. The 52 were leftovers from the March shipment that didn't get sold by the end of the month. We won't get much shipment till Q3 given they are selling all the units to the local population in China (they made over 300,000 cars for Q1) due to the reduced capacity of Shanghai. Think they are only at 80% now after the full shutdown.

Even if they added all the numbers (which they didn't), its still 4000+ units. This is 52. Maybe use a calculator if it help you understand numbers better.

Vesper Martini · 06-05-2022, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kypez

The 52 were leftovers from the March shipment that didn't get sold by the end of the month. We won't get much shipment till Q3 given they are selling all the units to the local population in China (they made over 300,000 cars for Q1) due to the reduced capacity of Shanghai. Think they are only at 80% now after the full shutdown.

Do you work for Tesla?

Bossxr8 · 06-05-2022, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kypez

Only one sprouting garbage here is you. We all knew that the numbers were going to drop in April. I even said it would. They didn't get any ships across. Shanghai is in lockdown with no boats leaving there for Tesla. The 52 were leftovers from the March shipment that didn't get sold by the end of the month. We won't get much shipment till Q3 given they are selling all the units to the local population in China (they made over 300,000 cars for Q1) due to the reduced capacity of Shanghai. Think they are only at 80% now after the full shutdown.

Even if they added all the numbers (which they didn't), its still 4000+ units. This is 52. Maybe use a calculator if it help you understand numbers better.

Which is exactly what I said last month, that the 3000 odd sold was 3 months worth. Yet apparently I was completely wrong and should apologise

You just proved the point genius

**kypez** · 04-05-2022, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Where's Tesla?

No stock. Pushed out to 12 month wait times now. Shanghai in lockdown didn't help getting stock out. They will always go up and down given Shanghai's priority will be China vs our tiny outpost.

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hackney · 05-05-2022, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Where's Tesla?

Still all ‘charging’!

Dr Smith · 05-05-2022, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Where's Tesla?

I believe in Serbia...cremated in NY I think....

EBSXR6 · 07-05-2022, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Where's Tesla?

Speaking of Tesla and the like have been told people installing charging outlets in their properties are getting large price increases in Property insurance Premiums, due to increase risk from fire.

jpd80 · 05-05-2022, 04:31 PM

C’mon people, fess up
Who bought the two Fiestas and three Focus?

DRU842 · 05-05-2022, 08:27 PM

We bought a Puma

**kypez** · 05-05-2022, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU842

We bought a Puma

Got one as a loan car last month when the Mustang was getting checked. I asked for it to see what it was like to drive. Was a lot of fun to drive and very comfortable. Congrats on the purchase.

Dr Smith · 06-05-2022, 08:18 AM

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We bought a Puma

My wife saw one in a great looking red and gave me those eyes that any other time would have me quickly shower and shave.....I'm going to try and get support for saving the Terry.

**Fordman1** · 06-05-2022, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

My wife saw one in a great looking red and gave me those eyes that any other time would have me quickly shower and shave.....I'm going to try and get support for saving the Terry.

We have the Red one in an ST-Line V with the glass roof, wife just loves it. It’s a really nice “nippy” little car.

**PG2** · 06-05-2022, 12:16 PM

OK gentlemen (and I use that term loosely

).

Let's not turn this into a Bossxr8 and kypez show. You both have strong opinions and we all respect that. What none of use want to do is waste our time logging on and read you both having pot shots at each other.

BENT_8 · 06-05-2022, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PG2

OK gentlemen (and I use that term loosely

).

Let's not turn this into a Bossxr8 and kypez show. You both have strong opinions and we all respect that. What none of use want to do is waste our time logging on and read you both having pot shots at each other.

I can confirm the correct use of the terms 'Gentlemen' and 'loosely' as I've heard them both pass wind...

But thats OT.

Franco Cozzo · 06-05-2022, 12:21 PM

These threads have more drama than MAFS, its a vibe and I'm here for it

The current model Focus (SA) is an absolute ripper car, have they been discontinued? I think maybe it was just too pricey for people to get around it in numbers, you hardly see any on the road around Melbourne.

Dr Smith · 06-05-2022, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

These threads have more drama than MAFS, its a vibe and I'm here for it

The current model Focus (SA) is an absolute ripper car, have they been discontinued? I think maybe it was just too pricey for people to get around it in numbers, you hardly see any on the road around Melbourne.

Only model sold here now is the ST and that's been delayed as Ford Aust chose to hold back builds until they could definitely install the larger main screen whereas I think Ford UK decided to go with the small screen and accept builds now. I think Ukraine is a supplier of components for the screens or maybe looms....can't remember.

Yes the SA Titanium Focus my daughter has is just fantastic...sounds great, the 3 cylinder has a bit of a growl under throttle and its fully kitted out and well built. I was surprised the cross traffic alert picked up a car coming down the small hill of our street from behind my Vito parked partially on the nature strip. Only complaint is it's too low for my stuffed knees.

**DFB FGXR6** · 06-05-2022, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The current model Focus (SA) is an absolute ripper car, have they been discontinued? I think maybe it was just too pricey for people to get around it in numbers, you hardly see any on the road around Melbourne.

As mentioned, only the ST left.

The price? Well, the Mazda 3, Corolla, Golf, i30 are all way more expensive than they once were. Ford were the first to raise the price and not play in the bargain basement end, they failed. And yet, people still pay the cash for the more expensive models.

**kypez** · 06-05-2022, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

As mentioned, only the ST left.

The price? Well, the Mazda 3, Corolla, Golf, i30 are all way more expensive than they once were. Ford were the first to raise the price and not play in the bargain basement end, they failed. And yet, people still pay the cash for the more expensive models.

Focus never recovered from the Transmission fiasco. It's brand went to crap with that. Should've just stuck with the torque converter

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Franco Cozzo · 06-05-2022, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

As mentioned, only the ST left.

The price? Well, the Mazda 3, Corolla, Golf, i30 are all way more expensive than they once were. Ford were the first to raise the price and not play in the bargain basement end, they failed. And yet, people still pay the cash for the more expensive models.

Even though the Focus is the superior product compared to Mazda/VW/Toyota offerings, the Focus carries no weight in that segment so you probably won't even get people into the Ford dealership let alone behind the wheel when someone is in the market in that car category.

Plus the various fiascos and ****ty dealer experience is the cherry on top when they're already fighting with one hand behind their back.

au2000 · 06-05-2022, 09:48 PM

Focus was dead once the whole cvt issue arose and how they treated customers, only blind Ford employees could not see how toxic that name plate became

**kypez** · 06-05-2022, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by au2000

Focus was dead once the whole cvt issue arose and how they treated customers, only blind Ford employees could not see how toxic that name plate became

Dual Clutch... Not CVT

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Franco Cozzo · 06-05-2022, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kypez

Dual Clutch... Not CVT

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Just as bad though, CVT is junk

**kypez** · 07-05-2022, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Just as bad though, CVT is junk

Yes. Typically the Jap cars that have CVTs.

Back to Focus for a sec, What is interesting though is that VW managed to get away from a similar issue they had with their dual clutch (DSG) in the Golf (and their variants) but Focus never recovered. I wonder why that was.

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Franco Cozzo · 07-05-2022, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kypez

Yes. Typically the Jap cars that have CVTs.

Back to Focus for a sec, What is interesting though is that VW managed to get away from a similar issue they had with their dual clutch (DSG) in the Golf (and their variants) but Focus never recovered. I wonder why that was.

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Probably because for some unknown reason VW is considered a premium brand in Australia, so their cars are held in high regard by people who know nothing about cars, who make up the majority of new car buyers

Doesn't have a Ford badge on it which gets a lot of unwarranted hate from the muggles. It's not the car, it's what the others think about your new purchase

I'm looking forward to the day people start bleating on how their new next generation Amarok is 'way better' than the Ranger, hopefully it'll have the bazillion 'Fomoco' labels under the hood like the Mazda BT50 3.2 I5 does.

jpd80 · 07-05-2022, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kypez

Yes. Typically the Jap cars that have CVTs.

Back to Focus for a sec, What is interesting though is that VW managed to get away from a similar issue they had with their dual clutch (DSG) in the Golf (and their variants) but Focus never recovered. I wonder why that was.

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Ford tried to save money by using a dry clutch DSG that had problems it thought could be fixed on the fly,
VW used wet clutch DSG as did Ford with euro diesels and later Puma, not a problem.
Part of the dry clutch issue was vehicles weight, should have never gone in Focus

Interesting that Ford switched to proper 6AT in 2016 Australian Focus without a hitch
but what did hurt was Ford’s inept response to Powershift issues that became very public.

Ford’s desire to commit self harm knows no boundaries…..

hackney · 07-05-2022, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Just as bad though, CVT is junk

Actually no,Honda manufactures its own CVT & they rarely have issues.One of the best out there.