Garage LED Lights.

[malbaby]

Suggestions on what to buy and wattage?

[.:4:.]

What style of light fittings do you have in the garage and whats the desired effect? Also are you wanting to replace fittings or retro fit existing fittings?

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

And what do you want to do in the garage? The light level you will want/need will be different if you're simply storing your cars in there versus doing detailing work versus working on your cars in there at night time, for eg.

[malbaby]

Anyone have pics on how they have set up LED lighting in their garage/shed.

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by malbaby

Suggestions on what to buy and wattage?

Don’t know if they are still available,but I got some led flouro type lights from the big green shed.Work really well.cost about $30 ea for 1.2 mtr.

[Tassie f100]

Had a look on Ebay.Pack of 4 led flouro type shed lights $80 odd pack.Buy 2-3 packs and have a few spares

[Dr Smith]

Try and get one of those companies that keeps calling me about LED lighting upgrades to fit your stuff.. should be free...once took 3 calls in 2 hours...and our place is already LED converted and they offered to upgrade the upgrade

[.:4:.]

There is loads of different options, like anything how long is a piece of string. If say your existing fitting is a 36w fluoro with an iron core ballast, something like an osram substitube is a straight swap (electronic ballasts need to be wired out). Say the existing fitting is a 35w/50w 12v down light, yes you can get LED retrofit lamps, but its cheaper and you get a better result swapping the fitting to a LED panel fitting.
Then theres colour choice. So with most retrofit LED lamps they're a fixed colour. So warm white, cool white or daylight. Complete LED fittings, a lot are tri colours. By that theres a switch on the back of the fitting so you can select from the 3 colours. Then theres dimmable LEDs and non dimmable. Being for a garage id assume thered be no dimmer but for say your lounge room it might be a consideration.
So ive had a lot of experience with lighting design, that being said, main consideration is the customers needs.
My carhold is a colourbond with bare battons on the rafters, it has no gyprock ceiling. I just use it for storage so the osram LED tubes are good enough for me.
Now this is again all up to how far you want to go, but if i had a carhold with a gyprock ceiling and wanted the best from ceiling lighting id go something like an SAL 1200mm x 300mm rectangular LED panel with a gyprock mounting kit. A couple years back wholesale those fittings would cost $40 each.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

There is loads of different options, like anything how long is a piece of string. If say your existing fitting is a 36w fluoro with an iron core ballast, something like an osram substitube is a straight swap (electronic ballasts need to be wired out). Say the existing fitting is a 35w/50w 12v down light, yes you can get LED retrofit lamps, but its cheaper and you get a better result swapping the fitting to a LED panel fitting.
Then theres colour choice. So with most retrofit LED lamps they're a fixed colour. So warm white, cool white or daylight. Complete LED fittings, a lot are tri colours. By that theres a switch on the back of the fitting so you can select from the 3 colours. Then theres dimmable LEDs and non dimmable. Being for a garage id assume thered be no dimmer but for say your lounge room it might be a consideration.
So ive had a lot of experience with lighting design, that being said, main consideration is the customers needs.
My carhold is a colourbond with bare battons on the rafters, it has no gyprock ceiling. I just use it for storage so the osram LED tubes are good enough for me.
Now this is again all up to how far you want to go, but if i had a carhold with a gyprock ceiling and wanted the best from ceiling lighting id go something like an SAL 1200mm x 300mm rectangular LED panel with a gyprock mounting kit. A couple years back wholesale those fittings would cost $40 each.

You have more patience than I do. I wasn't go to provide malbaby with any more info until they responded to our questions

[.:4:.]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

You have more patience than I do. I wasn't go to provide malbaby with any more info until they responded to our questions

I completely understand your angle. Yes more info is required for the space and desired effect, price etc from the op. Its easy to simply say ive done this or that, but that might not provide the best solution.
Unrelated, so rgbs and bluetooth is nothing new. A few years back i was talking to a bloke who took the rgb thing and bluetooth and developed a reader pen that works with the books he developed. So kind of a gimmik but he designed it for childrens books. So how it worked was as the parent read the book, theyd run the pen over it and the lamp would change colour. So for example if the evil queen came into the story, the light would turn red. He sold the idea to Disney for a silly amount of money.

[Franco Cozzo]

Couple of those 250W Philips LED high bays should do the trick

Turn on the lights in your garage and your neighbour gonna be like

[.:4:.]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Couple of those 250W Philips LED high bays should do the trick

Turn on the lights in your garage and your neighbour gonna be like

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Dont be silly. There is a difference between a setup to grow tomatos indoors hydroponically compared to having a well lit garage. A question was asked. Not enough proper info for a proper answer, but anyhoo.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

Dont be silly. There is a difference between a setup to grow tomatos indoors hydroponically compared to having a well lit garage. A question was asked. Not enough proper info for a proper answer, but anyhoo.

It'll do both - value for spondoolies solutions!

[.:4:.]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

It'll do both - value for spondoolies solutions!

So in my proffesional career, yes i have set up grow lights indoors in high rise buildings in the comunity areas so tennants can pick fresh herbs or chillis. Sounds like a smart community idea from a building management perspective. Yeah i suppose the idea is great. Like a comunity garden. So people can plant what they want. People can grap a twig of thyme or a chilli, maybe some parcelly or something i dont know how to spell. But theres always the one person who likes doobs and gives it a crack but ruins it for people using the communal garden for the intended purpose. Yep, put a few thousand people in a building, theres always a joker. Hugs not drugs...

[lamborghinifan]

1200m pierlite 40w ecobattens are great for garages. Good quality, good output. How many? How long is your string.

[.:4:.]

So i was never a salesperson, not tied to any brand. Just a regular ****bag sparky who worked comercial. But lighting was my jam.
Not to make a sale, but to give a customer an idea what i would do was samples. So pretty much a a demo in places across the floor so not in places other things for the same demonstration can be seen. That works really well. It means a customer can form their own opinion. But thats a give a week kind of thing. But typically they happy days it.

[DFB FGXR6]

I would love something like this -

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

So i was never a salesperson, not tied to any brand. Just a regular ****bag sparky who worked comercial. But lighting was my jam.
Not to make a sale, but to give a customer an idea what i would do was samples. So pretty much a a demo in places across the floor so not in places other things for the same demonstration can be seen. That works really well. It means a customer can form their own opinion. But thats a give a week kind of thing. But typically they happy days it.

Im a sales person, give a customer too much choice & end up with no sale...

[malbaby]

Thanks guys, I should have been more specific.
Existing lighting is the old style flouros.
Require strong lighting for car panel repair work.
Willing to install new wiring.
Thinking new overhead and perhaps side lighting with LED's.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by malbaby

Thanks guys, I should have been more specific.
Existing lighting is the old style flouros.
Require strong lighting for car panel repair work.
Willing to install new wiring.
Thinking new overhead and perhaps side lighting with LED's.

This is all pretty straight forward.

you can Purchase LED tubes pretty cheap to replace the old Fluros.

if you doing panel work we used to use those Halogen lamp stands so you could move them to get the light where you wanted, same for painting.

you can get LED lamps for those also, but the Halogen ones also double as heaters.

[.:4:.]

LED retro fit tubes do work, but the light output is the equivalent or only marginally better then a regular fluorescent tube. Yes they save on power, but replacing a say 4 foot fluoro batten fitting with a 4 foot LED batten fitting would give better light output.
As for work lights, the modern LED ones are a lot brighter then the old school linear halogen jobbys. For detailed work they make a lot of sense.

[Toiler]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

LED retro fit tubes do work, but the light output is the equivalent or only marginally better then a regular fluorescent tube. Yes they save on power, but replacing a say 4 foot fluoro batten fitting with a 4 foot LED batten fitting would give better light output.
As for work lights, the modern LED ones are a lot brighter then the old school linear halogen jobbys. For detailed work they make a lot of sense.

I researched this with a similar replacement desire. But I found that if your current flouros have an electronic starter (instant start) the led replacements will not work. Analog starter (lights flicker then come on) is ok. I did not test this. Ie I have instant start on current old style tubes.

Just noticed .:4:. Earlier Post.

[.:4:.]

Originally Posted by Toiler

I researched this with a similar replacement desire. But I found that if your current flouros have an electronic starter (instant start) the led replacements will not work. Analog starter (lights flicker then come on) is ok. I did not test this. Ie I have instant start on current old style tubes.

Just noticed .:4:. Earlier Post.

Other minor thing with LED tubes, so for iron core ballast fittings you need to replace the starter with the one that comes with the LED tube. If you leave the fluoro starter in, LED tube goes bang.
So yes, if the fluoro fitting has an elctronic ballast you have to wire it out. Old iron core ballasts you can leave in provided you put in the dummy starter. However if you leave an iron core ballast in, yes the LED tube will work perfectly fine, but theres a loss. So not the most energy efficiency compared to deleting the iron core ballast. Its not difficult to do if you have your head around it, but if you dont, find someone to do it for you.

[Citroënbender]

I went through this a couple of years ago with some slightly weird American made fluoro battens. Once I worked out what wasn’t needed I pretty much gutted them and left only the starter sockets.

My own garage, about to replace six daylight 36W T8s with more of the same at $4.40 apiece. Don’t feel up to another re-wiring job ATM.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

Other minor thing with LED tubes, so for iron core ballast fittings you need to replace the starter with the one that comes with the LED tube. If you leave the fluoro starter in, LED tube goes bang.
So yes, if the fluoro fitting has an elctronic ballast you have to wire it out. Old iron core ballasts you can leave in provided you put in the dummy starter. However if you leave an iron core ballast in, yes the LED tube will work perfectly fine, but theres a loss. So not the most energy efficiency compared to deleting the iron core ballast. Its not difficult to do if you have your head around it, but if you dont, find someone to do it for you.

You have an open invitation to come and sort out my garage lighting. I'll detail your car, you do the lights.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

LED retro fit tubes do work, but the light output is the equivalent or only marginally better then a regular fluorescent tube. Yes they save on power, but replacing a say 4 foot fluoro batten fitting with a 4 foot LED batten fitting would give better light output.
As for work lights, the modern LED ones are a lot brighter then the old school linear halogen jobbys. For detailed work they make a lot of sense.

I was actually surprised how better the lighting in my garage by changing the old flouros to the led tubes as I was considering ripping out the flouros but the led's did the job for minimal cost.

[bangm001]

I have a garage thats is 5.6m by 9.0m and 2.4m high at the sides, with a high pitched roof. 6x double Clipsal fluoros which i put 10.5W LED globes and electronic starters in and its lit up quite well. All of the pics were taken at night.


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[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by bangm001

I have a garage thats is 5.6m by 9.0m and 2.4m high at the sides, with a high pitched roof. 6x double Clipsal fluoros which i put 10.5W LED globes and electronic starters in and its lit up quite well. All of the pics were taken at night.

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Always love seeing pics of your garage!

[XP6]

You can get those click together batten fittings now

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

This is the engineer in me, but I'd be starting at what lighting level is required for the type of activity you want to undertake. Referring to AS1680.2.0-1990, Interior Lighting, Part 2 Recommendations for Specific Task and Interiors, Table 2, the following relevant (I've picked a few to show the level of disparity between the different purposes) lux levels are specified:

Carparks 40 lx

Garages and Service Stations:
General servicing, greasing, pits, washing, polishing 160 lx
Repairs 400 lx

Paint Shops and Spray Booths
Rubbing, ordinary painting, spraying and finishing, fine spraying, painting and finishing 400 lx

Probably overkill to start here for a home setup, malbaby and probs more complicated than you want it to be, but if you want to do it right, this is where I'd start.