My first drink driving related incident

Gabbins · 19-09-2005, 07:25 PM

Saturday night, i held a party at my house, me and a mate had a few drinks
And for some stupid reason, we decided to go for a drive.
So far the cruise while drunk was ok, navigated the corners ok around the suburbs, a bird flew across the road,i was on the brake within a reasonable time to avoid the bird, so i thought i was ok.

I thought i had the same amount of drinks as my mate, so i let him drive (it's an AUII fairmont btw).

He grows over confident, understeers into the left gutter coming out of a roundabout around 70 km fishtails down the road, the rear end of the car mounts the gutter and tags the light post and consequently pops the tire.
then rams the gutter and screws the steering over.
Then somehow, a cop manages to follow us home, and my mate gets done.

Now, i'd like to point out that I was extreme anti drink driver before this, and due the amazing way the mind works, u decide to drive drunk.
I was not driving at the time but i consider myself a drink driver anyway.

I understand that we were risking the lives of ourselves and others on the road, and we have been flamed enough for this. Posting insults in this thread isnt going to fix anything now.

Now for some thoughts on the minds of young ppl these days
First of all, for some of us (the idiots), violent commercials aren't really helping, and throwing statistics in our faces isn't going to help either.

The only way to learn for young ppl (not all young ppl), is to learn from living proof.

Defensive driving courses are a good idea, but i think its idea to have a few laps on a race track sober, record an accurate average lap time, then slowly go out for some laps after a drink or 2 and see the results for urself.

i've read many threads on DUI, and i don't recall reading about this idea, so i would like your thoughts and some constructive critism on this idea.

If u feel the urge to tell us that we are stupid, please do so in another thread and send me the link later

Laminge · 19-09-2005, 07:29 PM

Dont even try to justify it, and to think of using more grog on a driving circuit.... bah!!!!

LUXO_8 · 19-09-2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Laminge

Dont even try to justify it, you are a bloody idiot.

absolutley agree, grow a brain..
do you or your mate realise you could have killed an innocent person???

b2tf · 19-09-2005, 07:36 PM

No hesitation in calling you a ing deadset idiotic moron. The filter will edit half of this reply out too.

trueblue · 19-09-2005, 07:38 PM

meh.....

LUXO_8 · 19-09-2005, 07:43 PM

edit, wouldnt wanna know what i really think...........

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Gabbins · 19-09-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Laminge

Dont even try to justify it, you are a bloody idiot, and to think of using more grog on a driving circuit.... bah!!!!

I'm not trying to justify myself at all, im just trying to prevent this from happening to other ppl
i think the majority of us r smart enough not to do it, but if the idea saves lives i reckon its worth it.

And about the grog on the ciruit, if a v8 supercar driver can slam into a wall at 150km an hr and walk away scot free, then a slighly tipsy person, into a wall at 70km an hr or so wouldn't hurt,(with a roll cage of course) would make them learn not to do it on the road, thus saving lives

b2tf · 19-09-2005, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabbins

I'm not trying to justify myself at all, im just trying to prevent this from happening to other ppl
i think the majority of us r smart enough not to do it, but if the idea saves lives i reckon its worth it.

And about the grog on the ciruit, if a v8 supercar driver can slam into a wall at 150km an hr and walk away scot free, then a slighly tipsy person, into a wall at 70km an hr or so wouldn't hurt,(with a roll cage of course) would make them learn not to do it on the road, thus saving lives

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V8SC have huge rollcages and are built to survive crashes like that - regular cars arent.

Gabbins · 19-09-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by back2thefutura

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V8SC have huge rollcages and are built to survive crashes like that - regular cars arent.

Of course not just any car with a home made roll cage, the ideal car for this would probably be a ex v8 supercar with a motor or something

Again i wanna point out that, most of us r not stupid to DD, but if the idea stops some1 else with the same stubborn personality like myself from doing it on the roads and in the process, saving a life or 2 then i think it's worth it.

The whole idea is this:
get some1 who thinks they can drink and drive safely, get em on the track and let themselves learn the hard, but safer way

The question is, would u want a DDer to learn this same lesson on public roads or a race track ??

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

mate lots of people drink drive and it really does a great injustice to society . but baggin the out of this guy is a bit rough . like anyone who has ever driven after a few i hope you are not joining in on this one .you made a mistake and got 50% away with it . don't do it again and you had the courage to be a man and admit it .enjoy the forums and everyone including the people bagging you here have made thiers . thier bagging is justified but remember your not the only one who has done it. i hope you never do it agian mate. because there is no excuse for anyone . but it was good of you to ask for advice . thats what we are all here for.

agreed, all im doing is telling my expirience, i thought about what could have happened, ive analyzed my thinking beforehand & after. And even though i didnt loose control myself, i still dont think im invincible.

I made a mistake and i come on these forums and admit it, i'ts my way of hard wiring this expierince into my brain(or lack of brain) and any1 elses, becuase i know i have done wrong.

I've been through it now, and like every1 else, im trying to prevent it from happening to any1 else

I am young, i know i shouldn't have let him or myself drive for that matter, but there are people out there who still don't learn from expiriences the first time which i think are the people who really deserve more flaming than i get.

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Originally Posted by XLS99 Ute man

Do you reckon the guy who posted this, thought he would be cool? for posting the story

What made u think that mate ??

The question is, would u want a DDer to learn this same lesson on public roads or a race track ??

mcflux · 20-09-2005, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabbins

The question is, would u want a DDer to learn this same lesson on public roads or a race track ??

Neither. If the DDer needs a racetrack to teach him that it's bad, he needs his licence revoked. However, he should be educated moreso than punished, so that he realises what the consequences can be, rather than simply copping a fine & loss of licence.

-Dave-

4Vman · 19-09-2005, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabbins

I'm not trying to justify myself at all, im just trying to prevent this from happening to other ppl
i think the majority of us r smart enough not to do it, but if the idea saves lives i reckon its worth it.

And about the grog on the ciruit, if a v8 supercar driver can slam into a wall at 150km an hr and walk away scot free, then a slighly tipsy person, into a wall at 70km an hr or so wouldn't hurt,(with a roll cage of course) would make them learn not to do it on the road, thus saving lives

Maybe some of you morons need to spend a saturday night in an Ambulance attending fatal accidents or a weekend at the morgue helping out scrape mangled body parts into bags to shock some sence into you all...
:lookedat:

AUXRVIII · 19-09-2005, 07:35 PM

I guess a lot of people see things like drink drive incidents & also commercials on TV regarding the ramifications of drink driving. Some assume it always happens to someone else & forget about these warnings when they've had a few then drive home.

XLS99 Ute man · 19-09-2005, 07:35 PM

i dont think he posted to get flamed.
But hey thats what u get for bein a d*ckh*ad

4Vman · 19-09-2005, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabbins

Saturday night, i held a party at my house, me and a mate had a few drinks
And for some stupid reason, we decided to go for a drive.
So far the cruise while drunk was ok, navigated the corners ok around the suburbs, a bird flew across the road,i was on the brake within a reasonable time to avoid the bird, so i thought i was ok.

I thought i had the same amount of drinks as my mate, so i let him drive (it's an AUII fairmont btw).

He grows over confident, understeers into the left gutter coming out of a roundabout around 70 km fishtails down the road, the rear end of the car mounts the gutter and tags the light post and consequently pops the tire.
then rams the gutter and screws the steering over.
Then somehow, a cop manages to follow us home, and my mate gets done.

Now, i'd like to point out that I was extreme anti drink driver before this, and due the amazing way the mind works, u decide to drive drunk.
I was not driving at the time but i consider myself a drink driver anyway.

I understand that we were risking the lives of ourselves and others on the road, and we have been flamed enough for this. Posting insults in this thread isnt going to fix anything now.

Now for some thoughts on the minds of young ppl these days
First of all, for some of us (the idiots), violent commercials aren't really helping, and throwing statistics in our faces isn't going to help either.

The only way to learn for young ppl (not all young ppl), is to learn from living proof.

Defensive driving courses are a good idea, but i think its idea to have a few laps on a race track sober, record an accurate average lap time, then slowly go out for some laps after a drink or 2 and see the results for urself.

i've read many threads on DUI, and i don't recall reading about this idea, so i would like your thoughts and some constructive critism on this idea.

If u feel the urge to tell us that we are stupid, please do so in another thread and send me the link later

You seem to be still under the influence now....

Laminge · 19-09-2005, 07:38 PM

Life brings its mysteries... this thread is just another!

Melz · 19-09-2005, 07:38 PM

What a stupid idea.. getting behind the wheel of a car while under the influence, controled situation or otherwise!!!!!!!!!! I had a very close friend of mine killed by a drunk driver 5 days before my 18th, i don't need to be reminded of what drink driving can do. I spend every birthday mourning for my lost friend... i don't even touch a drop if im going to drive within 24 hours!!!!!! Don't stand there and justify it was someone else driving... getting in the car with a drunk person is justifying their stupidity nothing else!!!

Feathers · 19-09-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Melz

I don't even touch a drop if im going to drive within 24 hours!!!!!!

Same here.

Smoke Pursuit · 19-09-2005, 07:39 PM

So does this mean everyone should go try something to learn the lesson?

Anyone who drinks and drives is a complete Tossa and should be locked up...

Too bad you didn't write the AUII off, might have taught you a lesson, coz it doesnt seem like its sunk in.

XLS99 Ute man · 19-09-2005, 07:39 PM

My brother was at a party, and was feeling hungry so he drove to maccas on the way home he just blanked out and crashed straight into a telegraph pole. The car was a complete write off, it was a camry and he hit it smack bang in the middle, how he didnt manage to kill himself i still cant answer that question..
and yes he got a good punishment.
and you truly have to think before u drive after drinking

Smoke Pursuit · 19-09-2005, 07:42 PM

Whats the go with the fools in the back of that ute XLS99?

Looks safe.

XLS99 Ute man · 19-09-2005, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ShockWaveXR6na

Whats the go with the fools in the back of that ute XLS99?

Looks safe.

thats on private property, and only going slowish

and its totally different to drink driving, you react much slower

mcflux · 19-09-2005, 07:51 PM

(completely distancing myself from flaming regarding your joyride)

...

Regarding the "let's do some laps on a track after having a few" idea, I simply don't see how that could work. Think of the insurance, damage, and ultimate waste of time it would be. Sure, there might be genuine people who want to see what the difference is between 0.00 and >0.05, but then there'd be idiots who would want to have a fang while ****ed.

A track owner (business, person, or otherwise) who would use their track for this purpose would be ****ing their money away. They would constantly be clearning up broken glass, fluids, and gouge marks (in the walls and off the track where a car has under/oversteered and lost it). Think of all the carnage that could happen!

Drinking & driving is only cool when you're ****ed with your mates and playing V8 Supercars on X-box (or Super Mariokart! :thebirds: ). In real life, if you want to be in a car and drunk, make sure you're the passenger.

-Dave-

**Falcon Coupe** · 19-09-2005, 07:43 PM

Why post this topic unless you want a online asskicking ? ......Bloody idiot.

MrQuan · 19-09-2005, 07:46 PM

What's the saying again?... "Drink drive, ...?"

Mate, it sounds like you've learnt a hard lesson and it's a bummer that you've now got a wreck of a car to deal with... but it was a bit stupid to post it here - you know what the majority of responses would be!!

I've you never drink drive again, I say this experience you had was a rewarding one. Some lessons need to be learnt the hard way. You're just lucky no one was hurt. Imagine having an injury or death on your conscience :(

klawsterfobik · 19-09-2005, 07:49 PM

aside from the fact that your going to get flamed for this, your rationale on getting behind the wheel of a race car, after drinking defies logic, given that you are now, supposedly sober.

WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND IS GOING TO LET YOU CRASH THEIR RACE CAR INTO A WALL!?

The ONLY good that can come out of this, is that it looks like you've learnt your lesson.

Yaw · 19-09-2005, 07:51 PM

My personal thoughts are drink driving laws are way too easy on people.
In QLD a Truck licence or taxi authority requires a 0.00 limit. I have a MEdium Ridgid licence and am expected to be at 0.00 ANY time I am driving a truck, Why is this different to a car? I think 0.05 is stupid, ZERO TOLERANCE is the way to go for EVERYONE. I am quite particular if I have a heavy night on the turps I refuse to drive anywhere before at least midday to make sure its all out of my system. If you know your going to drink plan not to drive.

4Vman · 19-09-2005, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaw

My personal thoughts are drink driving laws are way too easy on people.
In QLD a Truck licence or taxi authority requires a 0.00 limit. I have a MEdium Ridgid licence and am expected to be at 0.00 ANY time I am driving a truck, Why is this different to a car? I think 0.05 is stupid, ZERO TOLERANCE is the way to go for EVERYONE. I am quite particular if I have a heavy night on the turps I refuse to drive anywhere before at least midday to make sure its all out of my system. If you know your going to drink plan not to drive.

Zero limit only punishes the innocent or law abiding, it won't stop drink driving or episodes like these morons because they're over the limit anyway when they do it.

XLS99 Ute man · 19-09-2005, 07:55 PM

well us p' platers (nsw) already have 0.00 limit
i think its good, cause you HAVE to have a designated driver (GAAWD it sucks being it)

Dark Horse · 19-09-2005, 07:55 PM

Just do everyone here a favour and hand your licence in.

RSgerry · 19-09-2005, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabbins

Defensive driving courses are a good idea, but i think its idea to have a few laps on a race track sober, record an accurate average lap time, then slowly go out for some laps after a drink or 2 and see the results for urself.

brilliant idea. have a few drinks, get in a car and drive much faster (no such thing as a slow lap on a race track, and after a few drinks, you become even braver) than you would on a road. dont even think that there is an instructor alive that will get in the car with someone drunk, so you will be out there on your own. you are so bright, the labor party will probably elect you as their next leader.

one positive though...you would most likely write off your car completely and the insurance company wont pay a cent. then you wont be able to drive on the roads for quite some time.

truly, you are an excellent arguement for involuntary euthanasia.

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