Spark plug / leads

05-12-2005, 04:48 PM

Im Going to order spark plugs and leads from JMM, but thought I'd ask first what people prefer, is there a better alternative to JMM supplied ones, and is there really much difference from what ford supplied it with?

cArSiK · 05-12-2005, 05:03 PM

Hey mate

Ive recently done plugs / leads on my VCT . I used NGK-R (ZGR6B-11) plugs and Bosch Spiral wound leads (B6228I). Realy cant comment on JMM leads / plugs but my combo works well and came in under $65.

James

05-12-2005, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cArSiK

Hey mate

Ive recently done plugs / leads on my VCT . I used NGK-R (ZGR6B-11) plugs and Bosch Spiral wound leads (B6228I). Realy cant comment on JMM leads / plugs but my combo works well and came in under $65.

James

Hey James,

Sounds good, much cheaper than JMM, plus I could probably get them local. Where would you normally get them from?

Reece.

mattsAU1 · 16-01-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cArSiK

Hey mate

Ive recently done plugs / leads on my VCT . I used NGK-R (ZGR6B-11) plugs and Bosch Spiral wound leads (B6228I). Realy cant comment on JMM leads / plugs but my combo works well and came in under $65.

James

Roger that, got the same gear in my AU1 and they work like a charm

cArSiK · 05-12-2005, 05:28 PM

I got mine from my local AutoOne but any parts store will be able to supply them...

As for fitting , make sure the engine is cool , take out the intake snorkel and get your hand in that way....it was quite easy actually , took 20 minutes...

James

05-12-2005, 05:54 PM

Any real differences between aftermarket plugs / leads?

Casper · 05-12-2005, 07:19 PM

talk to useless.. he's played with more sparkplugs then I've changed in every car I've ever owned.

I have the JMM plugs.. they seem to work well I must admit.

05-12-2005, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

talk to useless.. he's played with more sparkplugs then I've changed in every car I've ever owned.

I have the JMM plugs.. they seem to work well I must admit.

Cool, ill send a PM now...

HLC · 05-12-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hambo_12

Cool, ill send a PM now...

dont send a PM hahahaha i wanna see what the differences are hahahahahaah

06-12-2005, 05:40 AM

Well, just to let you know, Useless recommended ngk spark plugs and topgun leads, so I might give them a go...

**Stav** · 06-12-2005, 07:02 AM

Ngk zg as state above seem to be quite good. I found the topgun leads made my car less missy.What youll notice with the zg series is that they are longer than the normal au vehicles ,so go deeper into cylinder.

autickfordfairmont · 16-01-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

Ngk zg as state above seem to be quite good. I found the topgun leads made my car less missy.What youll notice with the zg series is that they are longer than the normal au vehicles ,so go deeper into cylinder.

So useless, can these be put into a standard AU 6 ok or will they cause problems. I have been told that the only difference between Standard 6 NGK replacements and NGK XR6 replacements is the temperature rating???

buickman · 16-01-2006, 07:11 PM

The longer tipped 1's would run hotter. I cannot see it could harm in the short term if moving parts don't touch. But if your doing high speed h/way distances regulary chances are you might run to lean & burn a valve.

06-12-2005, 08:51 AM

Heres the email I recieved:

AU-2 XR6 to Feb. 2000 takes kit number TG6160
AU2- XR6 March 2000 on takes kit number TG6175

Both of these kits are also available in our " MAX" series which is suitable for all gas conversions and is made from a high temperature silicone cable, rated 300 degrees C plus. ( black only).
Also Available in " Pro Series" either 8.8mm spiral wire or 10mm spiral wire. Double insulated, high temperature silicone cable rated at 250 degrees C plus. Suitable for both race track or on street applications. Available in red, blue, black or yellow.

What do you make of it, do I go the 'max' series or 'pro' series? Differences??

au yes u · 16-12-2005, 11:18 PM

1st post g,day all freaks. Has anyone used the platinum plugs off e bay, ac delco for $55 a set or this intake mod chip4, the same guy has a fuel saver which ionises the fuel as it goes past the box attached to the fuel line. Snake oil, dare i mention peter brock and black box or does this work

HLC · 18-12-2005, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by au yes u

1st post g,day all freaks. Has anyone used the platinum plugs off e bay, ac delco for $55 a set or this intake mod chip4, the same guy has a fuel saver which ionises the fuel as it goes past the box attached to the fuel line. Snake oil, dare i mention peter brock and black box or does this work

nice user name

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ionises fuel? peter brock and the polariser rings a bell yes

: i dunno anything about the plugs though.

LG · 16-01-2006, 07:15 PM

Apparantely the 4L 6 guys, are getting great results with the BA MKII XR6T plugs from Ford.

They use the NGK Denso plug.

Sleeperau · 19-01-2006, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LG

Apparantely the 4L 6 guys, are getting great results with the BA MKII XR6T plugs from Ford.

They use the NGK Denso plug.

The denso irridiums work well. They idle well & are good at revs BUT I would like to try the autolites which seem great value for money & my old mechanic has been using them for years & swears by them, besides some knowledgeable individuals have rated them including JMM. Overall I am very happy with the Denso plugs.

**Stav** · 19-01-2006, 05:52 PM

Gee guys ...time locked up and I missed this thread.

The zg series plugs are longer than standard au ones. I can say what I experienced.As far as iridiums go,on my car the denso ones made my car go quicker. The ngk iridium plugs made my car go very slow.So I threw them straight in the bin .yes I know 100 odd dollars they cost so dont buy the crap.

On the flipside ,I recently bought some more denso iridiums and the car was misfiring.So I have come to the conclusion that spark plug manufacturers have no real quality controls in place so that I can say one plug is better than the other.Spark plug manufacturers need to stop skimping and doing there job properly to provide more consistent quality.
On the other hand,ive heard no complaints about autolite jim mock plugs ,so they might be worth a go.

If you have a good set in you car now my advice is keep them until you find something that makes your car quicker.

autickfordfairmont · 20-01-2006, 01:38 PM

So can i run the ZG series in a Standard AU 6 without any problems???

craig31 · 23-07-2006, 04:58 PM

try getting your denso iridium plugs from your toyota dealer. they are less than half the prige of the ford dealers $42 for the set

Sleeperau · 24-07-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by craig31

try getting your denso iridium plugs from your toyota dealer. they are less than half the prige of the ford dealers $42 for the set

Have you got the order number etc from Toyota for the denso plugs? I paid $13 each from Ford.

Chamelion · 14-01-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by craig31

try getting your denso iridium plugs from your toyota dealer. they are less than half the prige of the ford dealers $42 for the set

$110.88 now... Highway robbery.

snortingboost · 16-01-2006, 07:32 PM

Guy's, the best thing to be using is the standard plug fwhich ford recomends and for the leads a set from queensland ignition leads will be the best. Those longer tipped plugs your talking about were meant for the EA-ED only and will only cause problems if used in an AU. Trust me i work for ford and i've seen what happens. The only time you play around with plugs is when you double the engines output ie turbocharging and usually you down grade the heat range by one number. In any case ford has spent countless man hours developing the correct plug for that engine. Trust me.

Casper · 16-01-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by snortingboost

. In any case ford has spent countless man hours developing the correct plug for that engine. Trust me.

Would that be the same countless manhours they spent developing brake rotors that warp at an insane rate, 4x4 height forte suspension that rides like the QE2 on a rough sea and an exhaust manifold that rates up there with a piece of pipe with 7 holes in it?

Ford run to a budget just like every car manufacturer.
As for the "long tipped" sparks causing problems... I have autolites, I've seen exactly how far they sit in the head (checked it at JMM on their bench on a bare head) and have 40,000kms of problem free driving to say they are fine. 40,000kms... hell, thats more the some BA's have gone with 3 engines straight from Ford...trust me.

stiddy · 16-01-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

Would that be the same countless manhours they spent developing brake rotors that warp at an insane rate, 4x4 height forte suspension that rides like the QE2 on a rough sea and an exhaust manifold that rates up there with a piece of pipe with 7 holes in it?

Ford run to a budget just like every car manufacturer.
As for the "long tipped" sparks causing problems... I have autolites, I've seen exactly how far they sit in the head (checked it at JMM on their bench on a bare head) and have 40,000kms of problem free driving to say they are fine. 40,000kms... hell, thats more the some BA's have gone with 3 engines straight from Ford...trust me.

Nicely said, well put.

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I have NGK Iridium plugs from memory, with standard leads (for now), have done 50,000k's on them with no dramas so far. the engine seemed to idle a little different after the plugs went in, thats about the only difference I noticed.
Next i'll try some Denso ones or Autolites, and definately get some new 10mm leads.

**Whoosha** · 16-01-2006, 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=stiddy]Nicely said, well put.

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Yep what he said 2 sets of rotors X 70.000ks :sm_headba

SVR73 · 16-01-2006, 09:47 PM

Just about to remove standard leads with Eagle eliminator 9mm spiral's
I used a set of these in the forte. Seemed to start better and run well and no more radio troubles

Plugs- I have pretty much stuck to bosch super 4 or platinum but am thinking about splitfire's
Since the engine is stock (for now), probably no point spending the dough on autolite's or JMM's

EBFalcs · 16-01-2006, 09:56 PM

get plugs with pure copper cores, thay make an awesome spark. but beware they cause alot of interference and can even stop your cars computer from functioning, they'r mainly used on inboard speed boats i think

Baboon_AU · 20-01-2006, 08:14 PM

i just did a service today consisting of new plugs, oil and filter with a general inspection of everything else.

i purchased NGK long life iridium spark plugs (because i run an EGAS LPG setup) for around $20 each, so it cost $120 for all 6 but i soon found out that it was well worth it after seeing the condition of the plugs i pulled out.. i am very happy with my choice.