Dont carry a mobile while driving.

BOOSTDEF · 19-02-2006, 08:01 AM

Yesterday on my way to work, at arounf 230pm i was in the right lane and was passed by a cop bike travelling in the opposite direction.

A few minutes later i see him hooning up behind me. So i thought, ok one of these surrounding cars has done something. But then hes pulling ME over. "Ok, random licence check or whatever". BUT, he then grabs his ticket book and proceeds to the car. Im like, WTF is he doing. I was doing 5Ks under, and stuck behind the car.

The first thing he says is "were you making a call or receiving one". I said, what do you mean, i dont even have a phone on me. So, he asks me to get out of the car, and makes me pat my pockets, and lift my shirt with about 10 or so people walking past. Im there, with everyone thinking ive got drugs or something.

SO he then asks me where the phone is, and says the usual threats about lying to police and whatever. I then say to him, search the car. Things were pretty heated by this point.

He searched EVERY possible corner of the car (My old XF), until he came up tp me and asked me to open the boot. I said, "mate, seriously, think about what you are saying. How the Hell am i supposed to get the phone in the boot while im driving". He paused a little and then said, "i must have made a mistake".

I then asked him what his name was again, and glared at his badge. Walked to the car and slammed all 4 doors and SPED off.. I really didnt give a crap at that point...

Now what would have happened if i had a phone in the car?? I would be in the ИИИИ. Maybe i had my hand on my ear or whatever, but what a dick...

Sorry for the long post :P

the_scotsman · 19-02-2006, 10:05 AM

****ers! thats all they are!

xe351 · 19-02-2006, 10:09 AM

hahaha, i love it when they cant pin ya

Walkinshaw · 19-02-2006, 10:11 AM

Your phones call register is good for clearing up situations such as this.

svo347 · 19-02-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

Your phones call register is good for clearing up situations such as this.

cheers never really thought of that..

Feathers · 19-02-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

Your phones call register is good for clearing up situations such as this.

The call register can be deleted, so as Flappist said the phone records from your provider are much better, and if it goes to court, can be used as evidence.

MITCHAY · 19-02-2006, 08:58 PM

All I can say is I've tried talking on the phone while driving once and haven't since. It is a distraction as far as I'm concerned and can see why it is enforced. But when people so much as put their hand to scratch their ear and get pulled over, well that's going too far. I vaguely recall such an incident where this happened and the person essentially got fined for scratching his head.

max^power · 19-02-2006, 10:46 AM

wow, i bet he was red faced after that!

nick81xd · 19-02-2006, 11:00 AM

yeah ive had that i was cruising up a long straight road with my head leaning on my hand, cop went passed and whipped it round pretty fast accusing me on talking on phone i got my call register out showed him no calls for bout 2 hours then i showed him my messages nothing there. he then looked in my car for another phone, found nothing then he had a very good look over my car (lucky i brought 4x new tyres 3 days earlier haha.
Scoreboard
Me 1 Cop 0

deesun · 19-02-2006, 03:35 PM

Sorry the cop was wrong this time but I just hate ****ers using their mobiles even more than those with their front fog lights on.

BOOSTDEF · 19-02-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by deesun

Sorry the cop was wrong this time but I just hate ****ers using their mobiles even more than those with their front fog lights on.

Hey mate, i couldnt agree more.... I see a lot of idiots swerving out of their lane because of sms or dialing a phone.

The thing is i dont even use a god damn mobile, neither does the missus.. We do own one, but thats just for emergencies for when im out on the boat or whatever...

I just loved standing there knowing he wasnt going to find anything.. The crowd that gathered around seriously thought i was a drug dealer, but they had a little chuckle after realising the copper made a mistake in thinking i had a phone to my ear.....

I was just waiting for him to pin me for something, but seriously, he was too red faced and just walzed on over to his bike, and slowly put his helmet on...

Lucky i wasnt in the other car... Front mount intercooler, too low, exhaust too loud, and the rest under the bonnet...

The trusty old XF had no faults, luckily for me anyway..

XR8 Uterous · 19-02-2006, 08:20 PM

It's amazing what SOME cops will try book you for when they havn't booked anyone for anything in awhile...

Laminge · 19-02-2006, 03:47 PM

Geezuz mate you must be one ugly looking mutt if he has gone to all that trouble.

There is always a bad apple that takes away from the decent ones.

MYVYSS · 19-02-2006, 04:28 PM

The Problem is every second car you see on the roads at the moment has at least somone either on the phone and or writing a text message.

flappist · 19-02-2006, 04:29 PM

Even if he had found your phone you can aquire records from your telco detailling all calls & texts in and out for a period either side of the time and date on the TON.
Show this to the prosecutor of the offending plod's station (preferably via the OC) and it will all be fixed and the aforementioned plod might even get a kick up the bum.
Remember all TON issuing is taped and that tape can cause them just as much grief.....

**Papa Smurf** · 20-02-2006, 07:29 AM

I have noticed that her in Sydney the major culprits for mobile use while driving appear to be Females of Asian appearance and dring 4WD's. One of my MAJOR hates.

Boosted, are you youngish looking? The reason I ask is most times that heppens is to younger looking drivers? Maybe police think that ALL young people are heroin delaers, marijuana freaks and mobile phone users? Stereotypes :(

pertuan · 20-02-2006, 09:53 AM

I hate when people talk on their mobiles while driving. But once I saw a guy in his BMW 5 series chatting on a phone and the coppers were right next to him on a red light. Nothing was done by the cops.

**Professor Farnsworth** · 20-02-2006, 10:32 AM

I used a hands free on a mobile once while i was driving, but it makes no difference at all, because it's the action of concentrating on a conversation that takes your alertness away, not holding the handset to your head. Just goes to show you the inadequacies of our legal system. All mobile communication should be banned from a moving car. Fine, have a car kit, but pull over when you receive a call, or if you can't, wait til you can then call them back. I HATE these heroes that pretend to be leaning on their hand while 'hiding' a mobile, and the (seemingly always) young chicks sending sms's while swerving all over the place in their lancers.

Said it before, i'll say it again, there is a TIME and PLACE for everything.

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LTDHO · 20-02-2006, 01:13 PM

Unfortunately mobile phone use whilst driving does cause accidents. It was good of the copper to pull you over. But to go to that extent is rediculous. I watch people drive at 15 klms under os swapping lanes without signal dayly and as you pass them you see they are on the phone....

Idiots.

Keepleft · 20-02-2006, 01:25 PM

Your in QLD then Boosdef - ?

I'd like to see the legislation that allows 'stop and search' in relation to this offence and if it applies to a person, persons, or just the vehicle - or both, AND if it includes handbags & bags when carried outside the vehicle.

Bit by bit your inhereted rights go. . .

EFIwindsor · 20-02-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Keepleft

Your in QLD then Boosdef - ?

I'd like to see the legislation that allows 'stop and search' in relation to this offence and if it applies to a person, persons, or just the vehicle - or both, AND if it includes handbags & bags when carried outside the vehicle.

Bit by bit your inhereted rights go. . .

Police need to have reasonable suspicion (Spelling) you or your passengers are carrying illegal Drugs, Weapons or stolen goods to search your vehicle...and if asked they must tell you why they have that suspiscion..

EG: You've been awake for 24hrs just finished night shift and tired as ИИИИ therfore have wickedly bloodshot eyes...That could indicate drug use or similar. therefore if they wanted to search they could prove reasonable suspicion. (a poor example I know)

blutura · 20-02-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fantz

All mobile communication should be banned from a moving car. Fine, have a car kit, but pull over when you receive a call, or if you can't, wait til you can then call them back.

how would that be enforced? would the police pull over and book anyone whose lips were moving while in their car?

frenzal · 20-02-2006, 08:22 PM

a while ago i was a passenger in a car and we pulled up at the traffic lights next to a police car, and much to my amazement i looked over to see the police man was talking on his mobile. i immediately went to my pockets for my phone to take a picture to ИИИИ him off whilst haveing quite a good chuckle, only to realise i didnt have my phone on me. so i grabbed my mates which was sitting there, but it didnt have a camera, but i pretended it did , to see mr policemans response, and he put his phone down straight away and looked very flustered.
we were actually expecting to be pulled over and hassled after, but he just roared off, haha.

ARYAN · 20-02-2006, 08:38 PM

ahhahaa good job Frenzal...

JADED6 · 21-02-2006, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by frenzal

a while ago i was a passenger in a car and we pulled up at the traffic lights next to a police car, and much to my amazement i looked over to see the police man was talking on his mobile. i immediately went to my pockets for my phone to take a picture to ИИИИ him off whilst haveing quite a good chuckle, only to realise i didnt have my phone on me. so i grabbed my mates which was sitting there, but it didnt have a camera, but i pretended it did , to see mr policemans response, and he put his phone down straight away and looked very flustered.
we were actually expecting to be pulled over and hassled after, but he just roared off, haha.

Police use of a mobile phone is permitted whether they're the passenger or the driver. They quite often use them to communicate delicate matters as unlike the radio the call cannot be scanned.

**Mechan1k** · 21-02-2006, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by blutura

how would that be enforced? would the police pull over and book anyone whose lips were moving while in their car?

And all the courier drivers and truck driver's with two-way radio systems that need to use them for work as well ... that's a distraction as well. But they need to use them for work purposes while on the move too.

falcon91 · 21-02-2006, 12:07 PM

Good Ads on TV at the moment here in SA (Elswhere?) about this subject. The talking and SMS'ing on phones that is, not cops with 10 more fines to issue before their shift ends!

flappist · 20-02-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fantz

I used a hands free on a mobile once while i was driving, but it makes no difference at all, because it's the action of concentrating on a conversation that takes your alertness away, not holding the handset to your head. Just goes to show you the inadequacies of our legal system. All mobile communication should be banned from a moving car. Fine, have a car kit, but pull over when you receive a call, or if you can't, wait til you can then call them back. I HATE these heroes that pretend to be leaning on their hand while 'hiding' a mobile, and the (seemingly always) young chicks sending sms's while swerving all over the place in their lancers.

Said it before, i'll say it again, there is a TIME and PLACE for everything.

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I see your point, and passengers should be banned from talking as it might distract the driver. Come to think of it those nasty radio stations and CDs are a huge problem, ban them.
Manual transmissions are a huge problem, you have to take one of your hands off the steering wheel and move the gear lever WHILE moving your leg at the same time, ban them.
And night driving, you have to concentrate on that very complex high beam switch, ban it.
And those traffic lights, did you know that sometimes they change colour and you have to stop and sometimes go?

BAN EVERY THING........

Just as a matter of interest, what colour is the sky on your planet fantz? Here on earth it is usually blue.

**Professor Farnsworth** · 20-02-2006, 10:27 PM

Well i didn't know you had conversations with all those devices you just mentioned, but if you do, that is a different story, and something you may wish to consult someone about. As i said, it is the concentration required for having a telephone conversation which is the distraction of someone using a mobile phone while driving, i've never found the operation of a high beam toggle all that involving, nor vaguely listening to a radio station, and so on.

I have strong opinions, i don't expect everyone to agree with me, especially on a huge forum, but if you're going to make a point, make it legitimate.

blutura · 20-02-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fantz

Well i didn't know you had conversations with all those devices you just mentioned, but if you do, that is a different story, and something you may wish to consult someone about. As i said, it is the concentration required for having a telephone conversation which is the distraction of someone using a mobile phone while driving, i've never found the operation of a high beam toggle all that involving, nor vaguely listening to a radio station, and so on.

I have strong opinions, i don't expect everyone to agree with me, especially on a huge forum, but if you're going to make a point, make it legitimate.

He did make a legitimate point, that of where do you draw the line?
Agreed, he did exagerate the point, but most of us do when debating a point, but the point he raised of talking to passengers requiring as much concentration as making a phone call is definitely valid.