Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > Non Ford Related Community Forums > The Bar

The Bar For non Automotive Related Chat

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 17-03-2006, 06:29 PM   #1
Redrum
Force Fed Fords
 
Redrum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Victoria
Posts: 5,556
Default Worlds Most Powerful Diesel Motor

The Most Powerful Diesel Engine in the World
81,000kW!
The Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C turbocharged two-stroke diesel engine is the most powerful and most efficient prime-mover in the world today. The Aioi Works of Japan's Diesel United, Ltd built the first engines and is where some of these pictures were taken.

It is available in 6 through 14 cylinder versions, all are inline engines. These engines were designed primarily for very large container ships. Ship owners like a single engine/single propeller design and the new generation of larger container ships needed a bigger engine to propel them.

The cylinder bore is just under 38" and the stroke is just over 98". Each cylinder displaces 111,143 cubic inches (1820 liters) and produces 7780 horsepower. Total displacement comes out to 1,556,002 cubic inches (25,480 liters) for the fourteen cylinder version.

Some facts on the 14 cylinder version:


Total engine weight:
2300 tons (The crankshaft alone weighs 300 tons.)


Length:
89 feet


Height:
44 feet


Maximum power:
108,920 hp at 102 rpm


Maximum torque:
5,608,312 lb/ft at 102rpm


Fuel consumption at maximum power is 0.278 lbs per hp per hour (Brake Specific Fuel Consumption). Fuel consumption at maximum economy is 0.260 lbs/hp/hour. At maximum economy the engine exceeds 50% thermal efficiency. That is, more than 50% of the energy in the fuel in converted to motion.
For comparison, most automotive and small aircraft engines have BSFC figures in the 0.40-0.60 lbs/hp/hr range and 25-30% thermal efficiency range.

Even at it's most efficient power setting, the big 14 consumes 1,660 gallons of heavy fuel oil per hour.



A cross section of the RTA96C:



The internals of this engine are a bit different than most automotive engines.
The top of the connecting rod is not attached directly to the piston. The top of the connecting rod attaches to a "crosshead" which rides in guide channels. A long piston rod then connects the crosshead to the piston.
I assume this is done so the the sideways forces produced by the connecting rod are absorbed by the crosshead and not by the piston. Those sideways forces are what makes the cylinders in an auto engine get oval-shaped over time.

Installing the "thin-shell" bearings. Crank & rod journals are 38" in diameter and 16" wide:



The crank sitting in the block (also known as a "gondola-style" bedplate). This is a 10 cylinder version.
Note the steps by each crank throw that lead down into the crankcase:





A piston & piston rod assembly. The piston is at the top. The large square plate at the bottom is where the whole assembly attaches to the crosshead:



Some pistons:
And some piston rods:




The "spikes" on the piston rods are hollow tubes that go into the holes you can see on the bottom of the pistons (left picture) and inject oil into the inside of the piston which keeps the top of the piston from overheating. Some high-performance auto engines have a similar feature where an oil squirter nozzle squirts oil onto the bottom of the piston.



The cylinder deck (10 cylinder version). Cylinder liners are die-cast ductile cast iron. Look at the size of those head studs!:





The first completed 12 cylinder engine:


I have pics but don't know how to put on, can email them, or put on later if I work out.

__________________
2021 Focus ST-3 Mountune Enhanced
Redrum is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 06:36 PM   #2
Redrum
Force Fed Fords
 
Redrum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Victoria
Posts: 5,556
Default

pictures
__________________
2021 Focus ST-3 Mountune Enhanced
Redrum is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 06:49 PM   #3
RavenLS1
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,419
Default

Omg!!!
__________________
405rwhp LS1, FG XR6T Ute manual, VE series 2 Omega LPG.
RavenLS1 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 06:58 PM   #4
CAMS290
trying to get a leg over
Donating Member2
 
CAMS290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,690
Default

It makes a Cat C16 truck engine pale into total insignificance.

600HP @ 2100 RPM
2050 ft/lb @ 1100RPM
__________________
Cameron
------------------------------------------------------
CAMS290 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 07:02 PM   #5
zetec
Zoom Zoom
 
zetec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Posts: 4,352
Default

Mmmmmm. Wonder if that would tow a boat... maybe the Titanic? Ford F9000050 Series with new, 50,000tonne SuperMaxiUltimate Heavy Heavy Duty towbar.
__________________
2012 Mazda3 MPS
zetec is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 07:03 PM   #6
FPV8U
BOSS 5.4L Enthusiast
 
FPV8U's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 21,941
Default

Quote:
Each cylinder displaces 111,143 cubic inches (1820 liters) and produces 7780 horsepower.
OMG!!!
FPV8U is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 07:12 PM   #7
tex
Broken
 
tex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,845
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: With the exception of maybe HSE2, nobody writes a review like Texy. 
Default

Great post, commercial size equipment is awsome.

Cheers.
__________________
The Scud GT

11.4 @ 128, 1.88 60ft.
tex is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 07:40 PM   #8
Qwikcorty
V8 Turbo Hoon
 
Qwikcorty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,634
Default

wheres the turbo pictures? i dont think xs power make a 100,000hp t3/4 hybrid yet.
Qwikcorty is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 11:18 PM   #9
borry
Now With 2 Cylinders More
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sunny Coast, QLD
Posts: 346
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwikcorty
wheres the turbo pictures? i dont think xs power make a 100,000hp t3/4 hybrid yet.

hasnt even been run in yet, they currently have 150 T-88's in th pipeline, to run 25 pound.... hoping for low 4's
borry is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 07:42 PM   #10
Dazza XLT
Back in a Ford
 
Dazza XLT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Central Australia
Posts: 2,620
Default

Thats bloody massive!!!
__________________
Back in a Ford!
2020 Ford Ranger XLT Hi Rider!
Dazza XLT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 08:21 PM   #11
FGX-351
Supercharged Mang-mobile
 
FGX-351's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Behind the wheel
Posts: 1,792
Default

its probably a tad off topic but the queensland rail 4000 class diesel electric locomotives are the most powerful narrow gauge del's in the world(cant remember the specs although i believe them to be 16 cylinders)
__________________
09/00 VX HSV XU6 Build #0001 of 0171
http://fordforums.com.au/showthread....09#post5571209
-- Best E/T: |14.982 @92.12mph | R/T:0.013 | 60' 2.213| 330: 6.283 | 1/8: 9.624 @ 73.17mph | 1000: 12.529 | 25Deg, N/A Hum, 1010mb | Willowbank Raceway 7/12/16

Tickford EL Falcon XR6 RIP
-- Factory Manual
-- Best E/T: |14.991 @ 92.71mph | R/T: 0.607 | 60': 2.215 | 660': 9.665 |13Deg, 86%H, 1024mb, 184RA @ Willowbank Raceway
FGX-351 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-03-2006, 12:16 AM   #12
ScoopED
Thumbs up for fossil fuel
 
ScoopED's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Posts: 455
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hbk_dx
its probably a tad off topic but the queensland rail 4000 class diesel electric locomotives are the most powerful narrow gauge del's in the world(cant remember the specs although i believe them to be 16 cylinders)
Here are some specs for their new 5000 class Standard gauge locomotive.

Manufacturer: United Goninan
Max Speed 80kph

Length over couplers - 22000mm (22m)Mass: 180T
Gross Power: 4250hp
Tractive effort: 585,000N
Fuel capacity: 9900 litres

I saw one of these babys..... holy crap they are HOT!!!!....... THE SOUND!!!!!, my god THE SOUND!!!!!

Oh, and I would also love to see the Turbo pictures for that incredible marine diesel!!!!

Mike
__________________
God created F-trucks so that you could put their engines into E series.

1992 EB Fairmont
351cu in Windsor Roller Cam
Valve Body "Shift Kitted" BTR 4spd Auto
Hi Tek Headers Tri Y
Twin 2.25 into Single 2.5in
17in x 8in BA XR8 Copies
235x45x17 Nankang NSII
Ultra Low King springs
Whiteline 30mm Swaybar
Nolathane box section trailing arms
Slotted DBA front rotors
Yella Terra roller rockers
ScoopED is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-03-2006, 05:22 PM   #13
kempster1
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tassie
Posts: 313
Default

Most of my working life I have worked on Diesel gensets and Gas turbines.

Worked at the Power Station in Alice Springs for a few years

They had 2 differant types of large dual fuel engine types
Pielstick 16PC2 400 Engines and Mirrlees KV16 Majors engines

The Pielsticks had a 300mm bore and where about 9 metres long with a weight of about 80 ton
The Mirrlees had an 380 mm bore and where about 10 metres long with a weight of about 100 ton

Not quite in the league of the sulzer but still big.

Currently working with 70 litre V16 3516 Caterpillar gensets, Nordex and Vestas wind turbines
kempster1 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-03-2006, 06:09 PM   #14
kempster1
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tassie
Posts: 313
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kempster1
Most of my working life I have worked on Diesel gensets and Gas turbines.

Worked at the Power Station in Alice Springs for a few years

They had 2 differant types of large dual fuel engine types
Pielstick 16PC2 400 Engines and Mirrlees KV16 Majors engines

The Pielsticks had a 300mm bore and where about 9 metres long with a weight of about 80 ton
The Mirrlees had an 380 mm bore and where about 10 metres long with a weight of about 100 ton

Not quite in the league of the sulzer but still big.

Currently working with 70 litre V16 3516 Caterpillar gensets, Nordex and Vestas wind turbines
There should have been a picture of main engine room in Alice Springs in the last post.
Here it is
kempster1 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 08:29 PM   #15
svo347
AFF's 1st DM.......
 
svo347's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Wha???... There is only 2 states 2 be in.. WA or Drunk..
Posts: 6,200
Default

Some of the powerstation re diesel / generators were this size...
Remarkable to walk inside the crankcase
__________________
FORD GIVING POWER TO THE PEOPLE
Alloy headed 347ci EDXR8
13.21 @107.7mph
Quote:
Originally Posted by zetec
I know what lengths they go to to ensure it's more than just a Ford sticker on the part. Ford doesn't throw it's name on anything for a quick buck.
06 Turbo Terri AWD 6 sp in Neo with stuff i didnt even need, side steps,15.2 inch roof mounted DVD,Pioneer $tezza,Selby 30/18mm swaybars,debunged,100 cpsi Ballistic cat,Plazmaman under battery Cai injectors 14/lb boost,ZF tuned,Xtreme's magic. :
svo347 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 10:32 PM   #16
Fairlane
V8 Powaah
 
Fairlane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
Posts: 1,994
Default

Now thats cool

and I think this is pretty damn impressive
Quote:
the engine exceeds 50% thermal efficiency
__________________
FG G6E Turbo- Seduce & Cashmere - Sold


XF S pack Sedan- AU 302 Windsor, T5, 2.77 LSD, Many Mods
Fairlane is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-03-2006, 11:59 PM   #17
MrSparkle
An Old Boss™©
Contributing Member
 
MrSparkle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,145
Default

There's something about an engine that requires a staircase to traverse from top to bottom.... !!

Awesome!
__________________
Where did I go? What was I doing there?™©
MrSparkle is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-03-2006, 12:06 AM   #18
Xploded
Regular Member
 
Xploded's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Geelong
Posts: 101
Default

Dam that thing is big, I love looking at big things like that ha ha its very interesting
Xploded is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-03-2006, 05:30 PM   #19
Dodge
i like to be stroked
 
Dodge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: between her legs
Posts: 1,926
Default

what a way to go, u jump in the gas tank and go for a splash ontop of a massive piston, do ya last dance and kiss the world good bye as u get compress thru a valve bigger than a circus tent and rolled out a massive exhaust .
__________________
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "Damn...that was fun!"
Dodge is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-03-2006, 05:49 PM   #20
kempster1
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tassie
Posts: 313
Default

http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsshb/12cyl/

And this is the tub it is going in

http://www.wartsila.com/en,shippower...312544,0,,.htm

Last edited by kempster1; 18-03-2006 at 06:04 PM.
kempster1 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-03-2006, 07:14 PM   #21
SPK-250
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
SPK-250's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Christies Beach
Posts: 964
Default

Do Castlemaine do a fitting kit for one into a cortina? Hate to be standing next to one if it threw a rod!!
__________________
What would forum's be without post whoring know it all's.........
SPK-250 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 02:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL