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Old 17-04-2006, 07:00 PM   #1
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Default back passenger door has stopped locking...

for some reason the back left passenger door has stopped locking in my AUII futura, has anyone else had a similar problem? And how did they fix it? All the other doors lock no problem...any help would be most appreciated
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Old 17-04-2006, 07:03 PM   #2
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Happened to my uncle, he just changed the whole locking mechnism inside the door, don't know if that's the only remedy though.
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Old 17-04-2006, 07:07 PM   #3
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Exactly the same thing happened to my AU. Dealer changed the lock assembly and the problem never reappeared.

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Old 17-04-2006, 07:14 PM   #4
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Exactly the same thing happened to my AU. Dealer changed the lock assembly and the problem never reappeared.

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^^^ That happened to me too. The back right door on my AUIII stopped locking with the rest of the car. Took it to the dealership as it was still under warranty at the time and they said the motor in the door was stuffed. Replaced and never had a problem since.
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Happened to mine. New door lock motor etc is around $75 from FTG Auto Salvage (see advertising at top of page). Oh, plus postage.

A quick fix is to take the inside door trim off, make sure the child lock is not on (ie make sure door handle on inside will open door), then remove the rod connector between the outside door handle and the lock mechanism. This will mean that you can't open the door from the outside, so the car will at least be safe in a carpark etc.

I repeat, BEFORE doing this, nake the sure the child safety lock is OFF!!!
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Old 17-04-2006, 09:58 PM   #6
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This is a common problem,i had the rear pass door central locking unit fail in the unlock while still under warranty and then prob 6months ago the rear drivers side failed.Got a complete unit with lock from wreckers.Its a bloody fiddly job to fix too!!!
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Old 18-04-2006, 12:44 AM   #8
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thanks for the info guys.... might remove the rod first so at least its 'safe' for the moment...

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Old 21-04-2006, 10:44 PM   #9
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happened to me a while ago took off the door cards and fiddled around with the locking mechanism and works good now or you could just hit where the locking mechanism on the outside of the car is and thens it locks thats just a temporary fix if you need it
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Old 23-04-2006, 05:49 PM   #10
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I've had this happen too..
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Old 23-04-2006, 06:57 PM   #11
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happened to me a while ago took off the door cards and fiddled around with the locking mechanism and works good now or you could just hit where the locking mechanism on the outside of the car is and thens it locks thats just a temporary fix if you need it
thanks for the info...when you mean 'hit where the locking mechanism is'...you mean just bang with your fist on the outside of the car door near the rear edge? lol how hard? ...I don't want to dent the panel
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Old 23-04-2006, 06:58 PM   #12
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A quick fix is to take the inside door trim off, make sure the child lock is not on (ie make sure door handle on inside will open door), then remove the rod connector between the outside door handle and the lock mechanism. This will mean that you can't open the door from the outside, so the car will at least be safe in a carpark etc.
If I remove the rod, will I still be able to open the door from the inside with the handle? or does the removal of the rod make it useless?
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If I remove the rod, will I still be able to open the door from the inside with the handle? or does the removal of the rod make it useless?
Before you start removing bits and pieces from the locking mechanism, remove the door trim and try spraying the lock with 'INOX' or any other good lubricant. No need to take the lock out, just make sure that you spray as close as you can.

We had a similar problem with the drivers' door lock and were given this info and sure enough it worked. Apparently the locks get 'gummed up' with dust and fluff and $hit and just needs cleaning.

Beats buying a lock when it may not be needed.
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Before you start removing bits and pieces from the locking mechanism, remove the door trim and try spraying the lock with 'INOX' or any other good lubricant. No need to take the lock out, just make sure that you spray as close as you can.

We had a similar problem with the drivers' door lock and were given this info and sure enough it worked. Apparently the locks get 'gummed up' with dust and fluff and and just needs cleaning.

Beats buying a lock when it may not be needed.
i reckon your spot on there chippitydip, every service i give my doorlocks and and hinges a squirt using a spray can with a little hose, especially up into the guts of the lock.
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If you remove the rod to the EXTERNAL door handle, the internal one will still work, but make sure the child lock is off, or you will never get the door open again.
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If you remove the rod to the EXTERNAL door handle, the internal one will still work, but make sure the child lock is off, or you will never get the door open again.
The door would be child proof at least! LOL!

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The door would be child proof at least! LOL!

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Are you sure that was Bucky? Doesn't sound like Bucky - never heard anyone refer to him as "Nice".
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Old 23-04-2006, 10:06 PM   #18
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I bought an AU II Fairmont on Thursday night and found out it had this problem
I pulled the trim off and pulled the lock out but the problem wasn't really visible so I stuck it back in and d/c the outside handle
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Old 24-04-2006, 01:39 AM   #19
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Same here, I bought an AU Fairmont last week, got it home and realised the drivers side rear door didn't lock along when I hit the button, meaning you could pull the outside handle and all the doors would pop unlocked. ?!. Haven't had a chance to have a look inside the door yet as I was headed interstate the next morning. Also, after I hit the lock button on the dash it seemed to upset the system as the drivers door wouldn't open from the inside, felt like the handle was stuck, so I pulled the handle really hard and it opened, now it seems sometimes the drivers door won't shut properly, it just bounces back and won't latch, like it's locked the mechanism while its open, but turning the car on and off seems to remedy the situation. It was dark by this stage, but I also noticed someone seems to have drilled 2 tiny holes where the drivers left knee goes, which I now know is over the cover of the central locking control unit. Any ideas? Hopefully the whole 'smart'lock system hasn't had it. I wasn't exactly thrilled about all this seeing as I'd had the car about 2 hours!
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its a white plastic cog in the locking mechanism that snaps too easily. having said that, Im still looking for a replacement cog for $3 instead of forking over $75+ for the whole mechanism after 3 mths.

If your going to remove the external door rod, smart idea would be to leave your door trim off untill its fixed - i did the same thing (but left the door trim on) and spent a good hour trying to get the door to open again after someone flicked the child safetey lock on!
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its a white plastic cog in the locking mechanism that snaps too easily. having said that, Im still looking for a replacement cog for $3 instead of forking over $75+ for the whole mechanism after 3 mths.

If your going to remove the external door rod, smart idea would be to leave your door trim off untill its fixed - i did the same thing (but left the door trim on) and spent a good hour trying to get the door to open again after someone flicked the child safetey lock on!
Good advice about leaving the door trim off.

If you do manage to find a supplier for thos cogs, please let us all know, as even at $10 each, they are way cheaper than buying a whole new/used mechanism (which is our only option ATM).
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same thing happened to me, payed for a new 'Actuator' and it now works. was just pulling down the latch on the door next to the child lock where the door locks onto the rest of the car, once closed andlocked via keypad the door would then not open unless done so from inside.
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Doors can be re-opened after being shut with the outside handle disconnected, and kiddy lock on. I did it not long after starting my apprenticeship. Cant rememeber how we got the door open again, bit i know I wasnt a popular person by the end of the day. I'll find out on Wednesday at work, and post it. Also, I will have a look and see if we have any write off parts needed by f orum memebers.
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Yeah, im experiencing the same problem, i think, with my front driver's door. The central locking does not work anymore for the door (all the other doors lock), but you can still close all the doors with the key (including driver's). There goes the alarm for a while... as it needs central locking to close the car remotely.
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Yeah, im experiencing the same problem, i think, with my front driver's door. The central locking does not work anymore for the door (all the other doors lock), but you can still close all the doors with the key (including driver's). There goes the alarm for a while... as it needs central locking to close the car remotely.
Sounds like a flat battery in the remote.
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Sounds like a flat battery in the remote.
In the remote that you carry with you, you mean?

Nah, because all other doors lock, and everything goes normally, but then you hear the alarm signaling that one of the doors wasn't shut, ie cos it wasnt locking. Also, the button for central locking doesn't work cos driver's door cant be centrally locked.
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