New ADR rules = less power (except for Ford)

[Doogstar]

Here is an interesting article about new ADR laws.

MANY of Australia’s most popular new vehicles have been detuned in order to comply with strict new national exhaust emissions laws that came into effect this year.

Market-leading models from brands such as Toyota, Holden and Nissan are among the cars to come in for a power cut, while other high-profile models have disappeared altogether because of the prohibitive cost of upgrading their engines to comply with the latest regulations.

No more Sportivo's.. YAEHH!

Ford are the only one to increase power and conform to the new ADRs.

Link to full article below;
Dirty deeds uncovered as cars lose power

[svo347]

Euro III-equivalent Australian Design Rule (ADR 79/01) Emissions Control for Light Vehicles, which came into effect on January 1, 2006.
Yep has been comming for awhile now.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by svo347

Euro III-equivalent Australian Design Rule (ADR 79/01) Emissions Control for Light Vehicles, which came into effect on January 1, 2006.
Yep has been comming for awhile now.

There was also a new drive by noise requirement which came into effect from 1st January 2006 (ADR 83/00) - Ford article. This could also have a negative impact on engine performance if the engines are too noisy.

FF

[XRated]

Good to see Ford Oz on the ball for such a long time

[merlin]

Yep base model Corolla dropped from 100kw to 93 kw i noticed

[XplosiveR6]

to be fair ford did get a decent grant from the government to upgrade the engines to EuroIII, so you would expect them not to just throw another cat in the exhaust.

I hope the camery sportivos are gone, they are horrible cars

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by EF_Dave

to be fair ford did get a decent grant from the government to upgrade the engines to EuroIII, so you would expect them not to just throw another cat in the exhaust.

I hope the camery sportivos are gone, they are horrible cars

Ford got a government grant for the Euro 4 upgrade in a few years time, not for the Copperhead BF Euro 3 engine.

[GOLDIE]

Are you sure holden did not get this same grant for there alloy tec motor which had to be detuned to meet adr's.

Ian

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by GOLDIE

Are you sure holden did not get this same grant for there alloy tec motor which had to be detuned to meet adr's.

Ian

Sure as hell feels detuned........... :nutsycuck

[BadMac]

Holden V8's went from 250Kw to 260Kw because of ADR's (forced swap from LS1 to L76).

Ford added the power as part of the BF program, not specifically for the 1/1/06 ADR, although that was one of the factors when planning the BF upgrade. The power increase was not a result of the ADR's rather to make the XR6 (for one) competitive with the SV6 given there claimed "sports" pedigrees.

As for the econotech engine, who cares, Holden lost that edge when they dropped the inline 6 range back in the VL days.

Good balanced reporting again.

[XplosiveR6]

Originally Posted by GOLDIE

Are you sure holden did not get this same grant for there alloy tec motor which had to be detuned to meet adr's.

Ian

holden did not get any grant from the government, they asked, but were denied.

[Dave_au]

Don't pat yourselves on the back too hard just yet - here are the models that have been axed due to the new emission laws:

GONE:
Ford Econovan
Ford Courier four-cylinder
Holden Adventra V8
Kia Pregio
Mazda E Series
Mazda B Series four-cylinder
Mitsubishi Express 2.0
Toyota Corolla Sportivo

In effect, four fords/mazdas........

[jabba]

Originally Posted by Dave_au

Don't pat yourselves on the back too hard just yet - here are the models that have been axed due to the new emission laws:

GONE:
Ford Econovan
Ford Courier four-cylinder
Holden Adventra V8
Kia Pregio
Mazda E Series
Mazda B Series four-cylinder
Mitsubishi Express 2.0
Toyota Corolla Sportivo

In effect, four fords/mazdas........

Who cares about those Fords anyway. I am glde to see the end of them.

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by jabba

Who cares about those Fords anyway. I am glde to see the end of them.

Glde? Glad.

And those models were sales. Just as any other model is. Those models gone means those sales gone. That's not a good thing.

[Full Spectrum]

I herd holden didn't detune the engine just changed injectors and added cat converters, Someone said the 06 VZ's now run 4 of them??.

[FPV8U]

In effect, four fords/mazdas........

Yeah but only really two models the MAzda Van and for van are the same, as is the courier and the Bravo.

[vztrt]

Youd assume as Ford Oz that has been designing the I6 that they would be able to get the engine to comply more easily than Holden who do a put together job.

[The G6ET Spot]

Originally Posted by Doogstar

Here is an interesting article about new ADR laws.

[I]MANY of Australia’s most popular new vehicles have been detuned in order to comply with strict new national exhaust emissions laws that came into effect this year.

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This is the main reason as to why holden are nearly a full 12 months late on the release of the VE. :

[Full Spectrum]

There not late with the VE.

[AUIII XR8 MAN]

Australian vehicle manufacturers have committed to a voluntary fuel consumption target for new passenger cars of 6.8L/100 km by 2010, representing an 18 per cent improvement over the 2001 rate and requiring improvements at twice the rate achieved over the last 20 years.

This is the one that i'll be interested in see how any of them are going to manage to get with current power levels.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by SlickHolden

There not late with the VE.

They ARE late. The VE was originally due to be released March 2006. Are you related to gmhdriver?

FF

[jabba]

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

They ARE late. The VE was originally due to be released March 2006. Are you related to gmhdriver?

FF

You you understand that this poor little boy has a very bad case of delusional paranoia..... He actually believes his clapped out VN is faster then a V8.......... Check under his user name.

[RG]

Originally Posted by jabba

You you understand that this poor little boy has a very bad case of delusional paranoia..... He actually believes his clapped out VN is faster then a V8.......... Check under his user name.

I think his V6 needs to go on a diet, eyes bigger than stomach syndrome.

[The G6ET Spot]

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

They ARE late. The VE was originally due to be released March 2006. Are you related to gmhdriver?

FF

Was originally due for releasesin september 2005,posponed til march 2006.Posponed again due to being unable to reach ADR compliance (79/01)

[BadMac]

Originally Posted by RAPID XR8

Was originally due for releasesin september 2005,posponed til march 2006.Posponed again due to being unable to reach ADR compliance (79/01)

What a load of crap. If you repeat something often enough it is still wrong but the fools will believe it. :

The VE's Aug/Sep/whatever date is not due to the ADR's. VE was always to have the L76 which was/is Euro 3 compliant. The V6 thingy was designed to be Euro complient and is exported to Europe as Euro 4 (for Saab and others). It was a running mod to add diagnostics to the computer come 1/1/06 which gave Euro3, the depower was due to exhaust mods to reduce emmisions.

The VE is late because GM p**sed around with Zeta (asked for changes, etc). Also holden decided to incorporate safety features, reduce weight and increase economy. Not to mention they set targets for build quality and then found some suppliers could not meet them. e

But yes it is late, just not for the reasons you wish to have people believe.

And before you ask, Yes I have a Holden, I also have a Ford and a Subaru and I don't know GMHDriver. All have their strengths and weaknesses, in spite of what some one eyed people wish to believe. Oh and by the way, I would never have the HFV6 I strongly prefer I6's such as the Nissans, the Ford, the BMW's and the older Holdens. A V6 will never be as smooth or sound as good as an I6 (are you Listening Ford, keep the faith!). However none are as good as a V8 (not even an I6 with a hair dryer bolted on!). :evilking:

[XplosiveR6]

Originally Posted by BadMac

What a load of crap. If you repeat something often enough it is still wrong but the fools will believe it. :

The VE's Aug/Sep/whatever date is not due to the ADR's. VE was always to have the L76 which was/is Euro 3 compliant. The V6 thingy was designed to be Euro complient and is exported to Europe as Euro 4 (for Saab and others). It was a running mod to add diagnostics to the computer come 1/1/06 which gave Euro3, the depower was due to exhaust mods to reduce emmisions.

The VE is late because GM p**sed around with Zeta (asked for changes, etc). Also holden decided to incorporate safety features, reduce weight and increase economy. Not to mention they set targets for build quality and then found some suppliers could not meet them. e

and what makes your statements any closer to the truth? Do you work for holden and know all the inside dealings? Lets just wait till it comes out shall we? Then we will see just how much reduction of weight, econemy and how good the build quility is, before hyping up a car none of us have driven nor even seen.

[Full Spectrum]

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

They ARE late. The VE was originally due to be released March 2006. Are you related to gmhdriver?

FF

No they are not late. Set a date out as they did, Then they moved it forward, And then moved it back to the first date they set, Thats not late that's on time;).
And no I'm not more related to that person anymore then you are to god.

[RG]

Originally Posted by SlickHolden

No they are not late. Set a date out as they did, Then they moved it forward, And then moved it back to the first date they set, Thats not late that's on time;).
And no I'm not more related to that person then you are to god.

Don't contradict yourself or anything.

[Full Spectrum]

And how is that a contradiction??.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by SlickHolden

And no I'm not more related to that person anymore then you are to God.

I AM related to God - he is my maker.

FF